Amanda Knox aka Foxy Knoxy seen in MySpace photos and news pics below - Amanda confessed in the rape-murder of Meredith Kercher in Perugia Italy with boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito and Patrick Lumumba.
Here’s a picture of Amanda Knox with murdered roommate Meredith Kercher:
On MySpace, Knox wrote several sexual fantasy posts including one outlining the drugging and rape of a young girl.
The rape and brutal murder of her roommate happened while she watched.
Knox confessed after relentless questioning by detectives who were suspicious of her original alibi of coming home to find the door unlocked, the apartment ransacked, and blood in the bathroom.
Italian police believe Amanda Knox, helped her Italian boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito and bar owner Patrick Lumumba kill Meredith Kercher as she tried to fight off a sex attack by the three at her home in Perugia. Lumumba is said to have slashed her throat with a pen knife after brutally raping the 21-year old English student.
Knox’s arrested along with Patrick Lumumba and Raffaele Sollecito:
All three murder suspects are being held without bail in the Perugia prison.
Here’s Amanda Knox kissing boyfriend Raffalele Sollecito:
The picture is from Italian TV during the murder investigation.
Amanda Knox, aka Foxy Knoxy, worked at Patrick Lumumba’s bar, Le Chic.
On her MySpace page, Foxy Knoxy expressed some violent sexual fantasies. One story, called Baby Brother, describes a man called Edgar asking his younger brother Kyle whether he carried out a rape with a drug called ‘hard A’.
His younger brother laughs off the accusation, claiming that ‘chicks don’t always know what they want’ and that ‘hard A is hardly a drug’. Kyle then beats up his older brother.
Here’s some MySpace pics of killer Amanda “Foxy Knoxy” Knox:
Here’s boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito’s MySpace pic:
Amanda’s lover posted bizarre sexual murder fantasies on MySpace as well.
The three conspirators at first tried to cover up the murder by disguising it as a break-in gone awry. Knox kept changing details of her story and finally admitted she heard Merdith Kercher screaming as she died:
“Patrick and Meredith were in Meredith’s bedroom while I stayed in the kitchen.
“I can’t remember how long they were together in the bedroom but the only thing I can say is that at a certain point I remember hearing Meredith’s screams and I covered my ears.
“I don’t remember anything else. There is a lot going on in my head.”
And that’s the latest news on the Perugia, Italy murder of Meredith Kercher and the arrest of Foxy Knoxy, Amanda Knox.
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November 8th, 2007 at 9:32 am
Grandson of Lumumba–ha ha ha. You know how many nigger there were named after Lumumba? It was about as popular as “Osama” is with Muslims.
Niggers will be niggers. At least they seem to have gotten a jewess– the silver lining to the story.
November 9th, 2007 at 3:49 am
I can’t belive…why..?
20 years old…
you must enjoy the life…
i’m without words….
YOU WILL BE THE MOST WONDERFULL FLOWER ALL OVER ITALY…BYE BYE MEREDITH!!!!
Felice-Milano-Italy
November 9th, 2007 at 3:53 am
For Craig Cobb…
What do you think for niggers will be niggers…!!!
Come in Italy before to talk…and see what is real democracy and cooperation between the race..!!!!
November 9th, 2007 at 4:47 am
Craig Cobb:
You’re a real piece of garbage.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:20 am
THERE REALLY IS NO NEED FOR RACIST REMARKS, THANK YOU.
November 9th, 2007 at 8:13 am
How on earth could Foxy Knox listen in the kitchen to her flat mate being murdered. OUTRAGIOUS, hope she spends the rest of her life, and rots in jail
November 9th, 2007 at 8:20 am
free amanda bitch is fine
November 9th, 2007 at 8:21 am
stop the racism and free amanda its love true romance
tell her to contact me and i will make a decent woman out of her
November 9th, 2007 at 9:03 am
Craig Cobb,
Good luck to you in your life.
Sounds like you are going to need it.
Your a sad little man and I pity you.
November 9th, 2007 at 9:15 am
craig cobb needs to grow up i think,
i live in london (england) and you wouldn’t use the word nigger around here. i am of african origin and mixed race but white, am i a ‘nigger’?
how dare you use a word that was systematically used to degrade and persecute my fore-fathers you racist piece of trash.
its ignorant people like you who are no better than amanda knox or lumumba. you are nothing, a piece of nothing.
anyways, i think it’s disgraceful and there is something seriously wrong with the youth of today if this is what we are doing to each other. i thought america had the claim on teenage murder but it seems to be spreading across the globe.
it is really sad and anyone who says marijiuana is not dangerous should take this as a good example as to why it is not acceptable to smoke.
i am far from a goody-goody and have done some questionable things in my short 21 years but the idea of killing someone is the most horrific thing i could create in my imagination and when someone finds it so easy to commit this act, i think the world needs to wise up to whats really going on with the younger generations.
November 9th, 2007 at 10:48 am
The guy who posted the racist comment is a muppet. Love Music Hate Racism.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:16 am
No need to leave comments such as nigger and racist trash. They are just suspects. I don’t think Amanda Knox killed the adorable British student Meredith Kercher, (may she rest in peace) or the other two suspect’s. However anger will not change the fact that Meredith Kercher has been murdered, in Perugia Italy.
November 9th, 2007 at 11:21 am
amanda seems like a lovely lady and i for one would love to meet her she is a fine specimen of the fairer sex. and as for craig you racist scumbag you need hanging.amanda i love you.
November 9th, 2007 at 12:36 pm
Criag ? or Hitler should I say …..what has colour got to do with crime ? You need treatment striaght away ……we are all have an ethnic origin and everyone is a mixture . Maybe you are a pure bred-wanker with no friends . just proves inbreeding is a dangerous thing . Meredith has a black parent ? so what ? she was an innocent victim who deserved a life beyond 22 . Craig >>>hope your small penis remains in tact for you to play with a bit more .
November 9th, 2007 at 12:58 pm
Craig Cobb?
Rhymes with “knob”, how apt.
November 9th, 2007 at 2:04 pm
MR CRAIG COBB, who ever you are! I dont know who the hell you think you are but you dont have right to insolt religion or race! You are so narrow-minded that its so pathetic. Use your little brain to think and not judging by religion or race. One person committed this crime, Lumumba. Not niggers or muslims.
Its only pity for you that its not even worth to sink into your level.
November 9th, 2007 at 4:10 pm
OK i did type out a long story of how i felt but to put it short….
If in the UK, we now need to open a petition to bring in the death sentance, jails and prisons are over crowded and even prisons people are getting the likes of playstations in their cells and TVs
They shouldnt even get that
Prison should be utter missury, but human rights prevents that for taking place and people have to be respected even if they are a peodophile, even if they are a rapist, even tho they may have commited a murder
Yes some people wrongly get sentanced but this number is nothing at all compared to the number of correct sentances
ENOUGH ALL READY WITH THIS NANY STATE
If a person commits a intentional murder, they too should be made to die.
Why should we pay taxes to help keep these people alive in prisons, prisons which are currently over crowded.
People may argue “ITS THEIR RIGHTS, THEY ARE HUMAN”
Yes probably if your the mother of some one wrongly accused, yes if your a relative of the murderer who remembers him/her as a sweet child
BUT THE FACT IS THEY ARE MUDERERS, AND THATS WHEN THEY STOP BEING HUMAN AND BECOME ANIMALS
We should no longer mother and protect these people
The boys who killed Jamie Bulgier back in 1993 are now realeased living their lives after the government gave them different names, a home and money to get their lives back to normal, THEY KILLED A 2YR OLD CHILD! They dont deserve to live, They did this when I was their age, I didnt walk around thinking who shall I kill today or which toddler to take. I was more concentrated on playing Tag
The police woman shot dead up in sheffield earlier this year,
The little boy playing football outside his local pub in Liverpool
The prostitutes in Surrey earlier this year (4)
The black boy who got stonned to death and forced to drown in a lake
In my village (Yeah village not even a town) a person got stabbed up at the top of the road, in previous 6 yrs 2 murders occured on the same street
Birmingham:
The 2 girls killed back in 2002 due to 2 rival gangs having a open gun fight in the street
A girl aged 13 who was pregnant raped and then murdered by a man with a troublesome life / history old enough to be her grand father
And you wonder where are the police?,
Call the police and you will be secure
YEAH RIGHT!!!
Police woman as mentioned above shot dead in Sheffield
This woman
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7083792.stm
Tried calling the police, telling them and alerting them that her diranged ex bf was going to come over and beat her
The police ignored her cries for help and ended up paying with her life, slaughtered to death
Baby found dead in the midlands, killed by its own relative, only a couple of months old
ALL OF THE ABOVE (EXCLUDING THE ONES WHERE I HAVE INCLUDED A YEAR) HAVE HAPPENED THIS YEAR ALONE 2007 AND WE HAVENT ENDED THE YEAR YET
In a world where technology blossoms, at a hight with medical science, busineses booming and falling, politics, space travel, international news we can only seem to be talking about murder more and more frequently
10 Years ago you would see more about business updates on the news, shares, technology and entertainment, now its more about violence and less and less is spoken about general news
When will it stop, they say it can only get better but I dont see it getting any better
A woman was snatched out of her car in broad daylight next to a supermarket with over 44 people on the car park, NO ONE DID NOTHING, the 2 youths in balaclavas gave her head injuries and stole her ford focus
The youths was between 19/22 not caught and the 29 yr old had to be taken to hospital
A petition needs to be raised by the PUBLIC (THATS YOU) to bring in the death sentance in the UK, they murderes should not have the option to live, hit them where it hurts, do to them what they did to others, personally a slow death so they can feel as much pain as possible as they die so they can feel their sentance
It should also be televised at night, to stop and prevent people from wanting to do crime.
Even bus drivers arent save, old age pensioner
NO GASSING, SEEN VIDEOS OF THAT AND IT SEEMS THEY GET OFF LITELY.
Painful death.
Of cause they deseave a trial first to give them the oportunity to prove their innocence first
November 9th, 2007 at 4:54 pm
Sadly, EU countries do not carry out sentances of death - so there will be no justice in this case, whatever the outcome of any trial. Americans should jealously guard the right of the state to execute murderers.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:29 pm
OK,
instead of writings useless things,
I’ll just try to sum up the situation and give some hints to the people who live abroad.
“Italian law machine” is more than just a bit slow, hence these guys could be kept in a jail for a long long time (unless some more clemency act is given over the next years).
The good thing is that Amanda is from the USA and I’m sure that with a good lawyer she can do it plus at the government we have a lot of brownnosers of the USA and I do not think that they are gonna keep blocked in Italy an American girl for years until the case is really closed. In Italy in fact we have 3 grades of judgment, so you have three chances if you can provide ever more proofs of your innocence to be considered not guilty.
I really belive that the one who is gonna get imprisoned is the black man in the end as the guy from Bari (the same city where I am from) has contacts in the police or something like that . They wanna close the case shortly because of public opinion. They are afraid of the reflection that this thing might have directly on tourism and they don’t want the students to leave the country with this bad remembering as, again, this would have a bad impact on tourism. So, shortly, the faster this bad story is closed, the faster people will forget it.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:46 pm
Well Craig, i’m sure you got the repsonse you were looking for. Trying to make an impact the only way you can. I’m sure the fact that you’re hiding behind your computer and leaving comments has nothing to do with it right? You’d say that to any black person or jew, right? Because you’re white and tough and superior and intelligent, right? I’m sure you’re full of self-esteem and you contribute so much to society, right?
I suggest you look at the world around you and make even a small positive contribution, and if that’s too difficult, take your dumb ass racist remarks, crawl under a rock and stay there…because i’m pretty sure you won’t be missed.
November 9th, 2007 at 5:48 pm
A correction: the law machine here is slow so they could be kept in jail for months until all the details are clear to the police. Since here we have a bunch of unqualified employees there could be details popping up even in 4 - 5 months which were not noticed in the very beginning like it happened in the Cogne case. The “Cogne case” is a murder happened in a mountain town located in “Val d’Aosta” where a little baby was killed very likely from his mother and took like 5 years, if I am not wrong, to see the world end written with the mother judged as guilty of the murder (and in the end without real proofs, just guessworks).
So, that’s the first reason why all of the 3 guys could be blocked for years. It doesn’t mean that they will have to stay in prison but they might be “hold at home” or they could have to be always traceable to the police and not to be allowed to leave the country. Of course everything will depend on the judge and how things evolve.
The second case is that Amanda or whoever is the killer will have to stay in prison for the murder.
In the both cases these guys could pass in jail weeks, months or years. Let’s not forget, anyways, that there are charges of “contribution to the homicide” and “abetment”, which lead to some years of jail as well.
November 9th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
That first poster just is out of line, sick. Its just disgusting that we have to read trash like that so we can keep our right to discuss things freely.
You do not express the view of most in any country, of any race, rather just your own sicko, bigoted view.
This is a terrible crime, it just is so saddening that people value life and others so little, killing someone for somekind of sick pleasure. terrible.
November 9th, 2007 at 7:48 pm
In response to post (18) - concerning my post (17)
Then it should be about time we leave the EU and become an indipendant country
Rether live in a safe country and a country that isnt just for the sake of the EU, and business profits and support
November 9th, 2007 at 7:54 pm
It has to be said that from various news reports I have seen the evidence against these 3 suspects look good, particularly the evidence against Amanda Knox and her boyfriend. Why have the fingerprints of Ms Knox been found on Merediths’ body, it is said that she was holding Meredith down as she was raped. Her footprint was found in the blood found at the murder scene. It is also alleged that Amandas’ boyfriends’ knife was used to stab Meredith. Mr Lumumba seems to have a number of holes in his alibi. I would agree that it is a case of manslaughter (and sexual assualt) rather than murder, but it has resulted from 3 people wanting to get their kicks at the expense of someone else. I think t Meredith herself was probably not as innocent and moral as she is been made out to be, her own Italian boyfriend claims they were doing drugs together and having sex.
November 10th, 2007 at 5:10 am
This should be a lesson to suburban kids from Seattle, coming from a Seattle boy: you hang out with niggers and garbage, this is what will happen to you. Apparently niggers are the same all over the world, even Italy. Amanda Knox deserves everything that’s going to happen to her for being a nigger loving white trash whore.
November 10th, 2007 at 6:57 am
i think all the three deservers capital punishment..
amanda is a bigger crook.. she had planned things..
she is evil
November 10th, 2007 at 8:32 am
Dear Craig, for you to have such beliefs you must be a pathetic little guy, with a tiny dick, be impotent, have no skills with the ladies, be physically weak, have no real friends, and no life. Your only outlet in life is to express hate while hiding behind your computer screen. Lol why don’t you just end it now?!!
November 10th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
Reply to post 24 “Toddy”
No its not manslaughter at all its murder, how the hell you going to say the sligh throat was an accident
Manslaughter = Murder by accident, an unintentional murder
She took drugs and had sex, so what, that doesnt mean she wanted to be pinned down and forced to have sex
If she had a boyfriend dont you think she would have been faithful to her boyfriend, and even still these people have openly written about on the net about these fetishes and fantasies
Knox’s boyfriend does not look innocent one bit, his a dopey pratt who probably gets kicks out of hurting people (Probably because he was an isolated kid with issues)
Know sees the girl in control and knows what she wants in life, and a little “bitchy” but saying that she may not have realised the extent it was leading to
Mamumba is said that him and his brother was talking on the internet about commiting the crime and rape
They all deserve to have their own lives taken for being sick, dilusional wankers.
People with sick minds like that cannot be cured, they may hide how they feel from the public but deep inside busy busy busy
I strongly feel they shoudl be banged up for 4 years in 100% isolation, just feed on bare minimum to survive, let them think about what they have done and how they could be having the time of their lives if they hadnt of commited the crime, then if not found innocent in those 4 yrs they should be sentanced to death.
By blood draining and they should televise it to prevent others from even contemplating murder
IF YOU DO THIS, THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN TO YOU
I believe the ass holes out there thinking about raping, murdering, peodophilia etc will soon get put into action
Kids without dissapline run riot
Kids with dissapline are well behaved
There is no dissapline now in the law, its all about put them in jail for a few years, give them food, on good behaviour a playstation, maybe a TV in their cell
JAIL SHOULD NOT HAVE LUXURIES, Should be cold, unconfortable and make them crack
Then if not found to be innocent in this time then then should be subject to torture death so they can experiance what their victims felt
not just that but would save a shit load on tax payers money for having to keep ass holes feed and locked up
November 10th, 2007 at 1:35 pm
A lot of heated opinions, one particularly out of line.
But the outrage in general indicates a desire for Justice
and punishing those who carry out awful heinous acts.
Just a word on Amanda Knox:
Is she psychotic, crazy, deranged? I’m tempted to think no.
The truly horrifying fact of this story is Amanda is a perfectly
“normal” girl - the girl next door! It is too easy and irresponsible to dismiss her as a singularly ‘insane’ young woman who had it in her all along.
Someone mentioned the nazis: remember the awful truth about Eichmann: he was clinically judged “sane”. It would be more bearable if murderous people were indeed “mad”!
November 10th, 2007 at 4:51 pm
Amanda Knox is a drugfucked WHORE and a MURDERER!!!
November 10th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Craig Cobb, stfu you piece of trash. Another piece of trash would appear to me Amanda Knox..what sort of person would just cover their ears when someone is being murdered in the next room and fail to call the emergency services or attempt to stop the crime being committed in any way? She’s probably guilty of a whole lot more than that, may she rot in jail for the rest of her life. Scum.
November 10th, 2007 at 6:04 pm
Paul, she didn’t *really* cover her ears, that was just a lie. She was really pressing the dead girl’s head down while she was being raped, buggered and knifed by the other two.
Adam, you really should try to get out a bit more.
November 10th, 2007 at 8:24 pm
Craig Cobb, Seattle Boy, Amanda Knox: each a disgrace to the United States. Pray for the victim’s family, it is all we can do.
November 10th, 2007 at 8:47 pm
Capital punishment is state-sanctioned murder, and is as deranged as any other kind of murder. It’s not justice at all!
I am sorry for everyone involved, including Amanda Knox, poor girl, to be so messed up in her head at only 20! My sympathies to Meredith…
Deb
November 10th, 2007 at 9:57 pm
its such a shame that such a young girl was mudered,with so much future a head of her,she was such a pretty girl to,i find it so sad,the people gulity of this horrific crime needs to be looked up for the rest of there life.craig”nob”cob your a disgrace,Seattle Boy you red kneck southern twat get out of your beaten past and start to live present day stuff there are no slaves no more,jah children is spreading over the earth.racists have no right to live with human beings of this age and im of mixed race and i see good in every race just not racist nazi scum like you.
November 10th, 2007 at 10:24 pm
Reply to Amanda being a “drugfucked whore…murderer”
Wake up! How many girls do drugs, smoke weed etc?
How many girls sleep with loads of guys, partake in orgies
nowadays? A hell of a lot - it’s the norm now! Amanda is no different in this respect.
How many murder? Granted, almost never - hopefully!
But, and this is for the US, how does your society discourage
violence? Bombing countries back to the stone age - the films you make noadays (”Saw”/”Hostel”) - your whole entertainment industry is steeped in muderous fantasies, gratuitous gore!
And when a teen goes on a shooting spree you express harsh indignation in the fact that - before hand - he had murderous fantasies (in his diaries)…i’m not in any way for a second reducing the blame on the part of murderers - but let me ask you Americans: what have you done to DISCOURAGE violence???
There is a thin line between fantasy and reality - they are intertwined and the former always lies threateningly on the brink of the latter.
Final thought: why is the FEMALE ‘accomplice’ getting most attention - I doubt it’s just because she’s from USA…
November 10th, 2007 at 11:01 pm
Lets remember despite the likelihood that they have the right people, we do live in a society that allows people to be given the right of innocent till proven guilty.
Manslaughter? Oh whoops I stabbed you in the throat while having a ’sex’ game. That i dispute. Its downright murder.
The papers seem to be getting a little kick out of young attractive people being involved in sexual promiscuity and then murder being linked.
I agree Meredith was probably no more or less moral than any normal 21 yr old girl. And also i can count dozens of girls i know who have secret rape fantasies and read such stories. My current girlf for one.
This story will get more and more interesting no doubt and I wonder if the boyf of Amanda or ‘Patrick’ has been stitched up. I reckon one will be an innocent party. footprints can come after remember. Eg: “Please come quick I think somethings happened”
November 11th, 2007 at 2:16 pm
It is a shame that most of american students come to italy to have fun, take drugs and have sex. I am sorry americans but this is what you show us!
Most of americans and erasmus students come here just to HAVE FUN!
We don’t like americans…so go back home and don’t come back to italy
November 11th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
k-do: In answer to your question as to why so much attention is currently being focused on Amanda rather than the others - well, for a woman to help restrain a struggling, screaming victim of an ultra-violent sexual attack that ends in murder, it’s kind of unusual don’t you think? I just hope that ALL the guilty parties spend a long, long, loooong time in jail, and that a certain pretty young murderer is not able to play the ‘They forced me into it, I was frightened of them’ card that her lawyers, no doubt, will recommend she play. As I read more about this sickening case it is becoming clear that Amanda Knox enabled this attack, allowing these animals into the home where Meredith should have been safe. Poor girl, she deserved so much better than this.
November 11th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
seattleboy - you are a disgrace to your city. You are no better than Amanda, assuming she is, in fact, guilty. F.U.
November 11th, 2007 at 6:35 pm
Craig “buttfuker” Cobb and Seattle “I’m so Gay” Boy obviously share the same queer fetish about black men.They’ll probably live a lie their whole life, pretending to be straight and wanking themselves to sleep at night, whilst perpetually yearning for the feel of a hard and sweaty black member forcing a gap in their backsides. Hey, maybe you guys should hook up through this site?!
Amanda’s definitely guilty, like all of them. They should hang.
November 11th, 2007 at 7:39 pm
My sympathies to the family of Meredith!
And of course, Amanda and the rest of the killers.. may you all get locked up and tortured in some jail far far away. But hey who knows, that might be a “sexual fantasy” of yours? good luck living.
November 11th, 2007 at 8:07 pm
Disgusted: I totally agree with your outrage but, for ALL on this page, DEROGATORY outrage is the wrong way to go…
I’m not trying to moralise, but a crime like this, where a seemingly ordinary young girl becomes a notorious killer is too often isolated as a rare psychotic instance: because of this we may miss the underlying meaning of this crime: that this crime is both symptomatic and an indictment of our culture of instant gratification and excess.
I’m not trying to single out Americans, but take the specifics of this crime - Amanda holding the victim down while another gets their sick thrills, all caught up in the drug-hazed moment
is methodically similar to common fraternity-parties - or college parties anywhere - where someone is held down while someone pours drink in their mouth or whatever, in a similar orgiastic atmosphere…
my point: this murder is THE EXTREME CONSEQUENCE of such social activity - we must examine our own cultural complicity in such acts - and what we should do to discourage all forms of degradation and humility in society.
November 12th, 2007 at 2:06 am
Americans are often ignorant of what the world thinks of them; they are in general too self-centered with their capitalistic ways and constitutional rights. I can say this because I myself am an American and a Seattle resident. There is so much hypocrisy and discrimination in the US, yet we prefer to stay blind and deaf, covering up our “eyes and ears” the way Amanda and our politicians do when others are suffering around us. This murder has been in Seattle newspapers and TV, but I bet the majority of people Amanda’s age will not even know anything about it because they don’t read nor watch the news. I am in full support of a slow, agonizing death for all those involved in the murder of Meredith Kercher. Skin color and family status should not be mentioned by the media to influence public opinion. How can they say that Rafaelle was Amanda’s boyfriend when they had only known each other for TWO WEEKS? A more accurate title would be “sleeping partner” or “friend with benefits.” If indeed Amanda was there and did nothing to protect Meredith, she deserves a severe penalty just like the male perpetrators. Why did she change her story more than once? In America the majority of young women are either super sweet/nice/pious or bitchy, and the children are very spoiled/ignored by affluent parents. The family unit is very dysfunctional. Parents don’t know anything about parenting. TV shows glamorize “bad behavior.” I see nothing wrong with making this case a harsh example for all to see, even if it might seem barbaric to those who side with human rights activists. The general public must be protected from those who harm others, period. If we all practice zero tolerance, maybe crimes wouldn’t happen as often. I hope that all suspects get a fair trial and that the true criminals are punished. It seems that the media is biased against the Congolese immigrant, hardly ever mentioning that he is a married man and a recent father. Rafaelle has a sister working for the carabinieri and comes from a family with money. Can we trust the Italian legal system? As for Amanda’s mother, she’s staying in an apartment provided by the Seattle-Perugia Sister City Association. Some lawyer in the US will probably get Amanda her freedom somehow, simply because she comes from a country that can flex its muscle and put economic pressures on the rest of the world. Amanda is old enough to be a registered voter; that implies she’s capable of taking responsibility for her own actions and making informed decisions. Let justice be served.
November 12th, 2007 at 3:24 am
Man… you guys are awful… I knew Amanda on a personal level and she’s not the type to do something like this. But I guess leaving awesome comments like “I hope she rots in hell” makes you feel better about your own miserable lives. Ever heard of innocent until proven guilty? I guess not which is why I’m glad dumb fucks like you guys aren’t running this country. Oh wait… you are… well looks like we’re all fucked in this world…
November 12th, 2007 at 7:48 am
Historically many immigrants take low paid jobs. Often they work very hard and within a generation have substantially improved their lot in the society they move to.
Thus it is often the poorly paid lower classes of the society they move to that they most upset. By competing with them for low paid jobs and then often leaving them behind by their superior work ethic.
Which is a round about way of saying Craig Cobb sounds like serious low rent trash.
Wallowing in his hand me down, generation to generation, chippy bitter and ignorant gene pool.
Good not to be him.
November 12th, 2007 at 8:55 am
Reply to:
How many murder? Granted, almost never - hopefully!
But, and this is for the US, how does your society discourage
violence? Bombing countries back to the stone age - the films you make noadays (”Saw”/”Hostel”) - your whole entertainment industry is steeped in muderous fantasies, gratuitous gore!
And when a teen goes on a shooting spree you express harsh indignation in the fact that - before hand - he had murderous fantasies (in his diaries)…i’m not in any way for a second reducing the blame on the part of murderers - but let me ask you Americans: what have you done to DISCOURAGE violence???
No offense but I love the saw sphycological horrors and paid in advance to watch Saw 4 on the release date.
But I have not though about acting out the film, commiting a murder or even torturing any one
Reason for this….
I am in control of my life, and I choose to view these films because I know no one is actually harmed as its not a snuff film and I know its all entertainment,
We cannot blame the entertainment industry that is a easy cop out (That brings me back to CHUCKY and JAMIE BULGIER from back in 1993)
If people where suceptable to commiting crime over the entertainment they watch then why is it only a small minority of murders occure in the way they appear on film
Its art immitating life not the oposite way around
GLADIATORIAL FIGHTS & ROMAN ERA
VICKINGS
DARK AGES
JACK THE RIPPER
All these happened WAY before movies where about
Whats your excuse for the murderous attitude to life back then
Gladiatorial fights was all in the name of entertainment back then.
Jack the ripper, well we all know about him back in the late 19th Centuary killing whores up and down London in the most crude and vicious ways
Yet movies hadnt been invented back then
November 12th, 2007 at 9:14 am
Reply to: rafaella
Ok there is no problem in talking about how you feel about the murder that took place that is what this topic is about, but you are branching off into racism, Not by the colour of their skin but the country they are from.
Becareful with how you word things
Just as 1 girl commited a crime from america and you tarding all americans with the same brush, you forget that people can tard all italians with the same brush as racists.
Now im neither italian or american, im brittish
Reply to the person who said I need to get out more….
Without getting into a heated discussion about this….
Im 24 and my social life is perfectly fine go out clubbing 2-3 times aweek where I will return some nights at 3am others at 6am not that I need to explain my social activities to a stranger online
Plenty of social friendship but they all my friends will tell you the same thing, murders are becoming more and more frequent
Part of it is to do with the youth culture of today. now I know I said above that its Art Imminating life, not the oposite way around on the film industry
However entertainment does play a small part in it
Real life documentaries
Example: Police camera action programmes focusing on tackling crime in the US.
Rap Music, talking about kicking ass to this person and that
But what they dont tell you is half these rappers are singing it out of entertainment only a small minority actually carry out any violence.
The reason why they sing and rap about violence
IT SELLS!
2Pac back in the early 90’s got condemmed for the music he made and how 2 young tennagers shot a police officer on duty simply because of the lyrics in a song of his.
Did 2pac ever kill a police officer? No
He did actually life a life of crime but that is seperate and he did pay the ultimate price with his life for the lifestyle he lead.
These reality TV shows make it out the california, miami etc are packed full of criminals.
In reality if you was to visit these places it would probably be no different to London and Birmingham
I used to live in spain and when I went over there on Holiday my father being a police man over there said the police over here are brilliant (By watching the same sort of shows on TV about police in the UK)
But the crime was just as bad over there as it is over here
Just that the show focuses 100% on crime so you are lead to believe there is loads of crime in that country or area
Teenagers watching these programmes want to look fearful infront of other rival gangs or friends to have “Street Cred” or “Respect” and each one steps up the violence a little to gain more fear out of his peers
Unfortunatly some cases it over steps the violence where a kid may be beaten to death, shot when innocent like Rhys from Liverpool, etc
BUT it also comes down to parenting
I was always brought up to know that no matter how much you hate a person you should never want them dead or wish them dead, and that whats on TV is simply entertainment not real life.
Finally I would like to state that Yes I have gone on about the death sentance which will probably never be launched in this country until its too late
But realisticly we should be treating murderers on the same level that they can understand, and that is to get rid of them, not feed them, not look after them, not to protect them. They should simply be exterminated
And leave jail for the simpler crimes in life such as fights, drink driving, drugs, theft, rapists
As for the Drug Whore.
I agree thats normal nowadays, I had an ex girlfriend who took drugs when she was younger and slept with 15 men in 3 months but she didnt go around commiting murder or wanting to do that, deep down she was a sweet girl and she grew out of drugs and she still is a sweet girl with a family and house she owns and a carreers she wanted, and shes a great mother
Its just the popular culture of young people now
And loads of celebrities are on drugs and have sex
ONE THAT COMES TO MIND!
PARIS HILTON!
November 12th, 2007 at 9:24 am
RE Pictures on this page….
Im not too sure on how much of a part she played in this, if she was forced or not (Amanda Knox), wether she was high and didnt see it as a reality thing happening, or wether she honestly wasnt in this at all (Could have found the body and thats how her prints got on the body)
Or maybe its how were all seing it, that she did participate
One thing is for sure, I cant see her going out of her way to commit the crime by her self or instigated it
There may have been conflict between each other living under the same roof and on drugs may have allowed that outrage to commit a crime such as murder, just shows shes weak
But lets take a closer look at the pictures
1) Kissing her bf in public, looking scared but trying to be brave is what i get from what pic and wanting a hug/cuddle (Almost innocent - I say almost because shes far from it)
Could she be under the thumb of what her bf dictates?
Could she be maddly in love with him?
2) Look at his picture dressed up as a mummy and murderous outfit
Ok could have been halloween loads of people do that
BUT! He comes across in his videos and pictures as devious
A person who isnt all there with reality, and countless videos ive seen on discovery channel where the murderer hasnt been some butch man who is popular but a little bookworm with anger issues and sphycological issues
EXAMPLE: HIM!
Mamumba:
Typical african from south africa were rape, aids, and gun violence is high. so he comes straight into mind as the instigator of all of this, fueling the fantasy of Knox’s boyfriend and then probably encouraging his gf to participate or even forced her to participate
Either way
There all guilty
But that is my opinion on how things may have occured and how is most guilty
Mamumba (Most Guilty)
Knox’s Bf (Second Instigator)
Knox (as accomplice / final recruit)
Does this mean go easy on KNOX
Hell no, wether forced, accomplice or murderer
She could have thought off and gone when it was just under discussion, shes just as bad as the rest
November 12th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
It disturbs me to see ALL Americans judged on the actions of one student in Italy, or by the violent movies that come out of Hollywood, or by what is written by a few ignorant racists on a website. I am an American, and everyone I know would not fit into any of those three categories.
Americans do demand justice, and hopefully justice will be served in this case too.
Regardless of how it happened or who did it, the tragedy here is that a young woman lost her life, and her family and friends are now paying the consequences of her death. This is such an unnecessary loss regardless of race, religion, nationality, sex or creed.
November 12th, 2007 at 3:17 pm
Craig Cobb, you seem to forget that there are two white people involved here and one black!!!! HELLO! any excuse to show a bit of racism for your site eh Craig. Anyway enough of that, i bet the men will probably get all the blame while the sweet little rich girl gets off lightly, Arash if you know Amanda personally think yourself lucky that you weren’t her room-mate, remember she wrote a story about RAPE on her my space/ facebook, whichever, she certainly sounds like a really nice girl!
November 12th, 2007 at 5:41 pm
amanda is too beautiful to be in jail…a waste of good ass. let her free and let me have her for my use.
November 12th, 2007 at 5:44 pm
I cant get my head round this whole situation. It seems like Amanda Knox is lieing. Why change her story? Oh yeah, craig, you say that word in a darogatory way round my ends you get hung!
November 12th, 2007 at 7:45 pm
Paul Says:
November 10th, 2007 at 5:39 pm
Craig Cobb, stfu you piece of trash. Another piece of trash would appear to me Amanda Knox..
>>>>>what sort of person would just cover their ears when someone is being murdered in the next room and fail to call the emergency services or attempt to stop the crime being committed in any way?
November 12th, 2007 at 7:46 pm
Most commonly (and common they are), ignorant Multi-Cultist such as yourself and Amanda who refuse to
acknowledge either the now-known-to-be-lies of Jew Franz Boas and his chubby liar student Margaret Meade…i.e., somebody who won’t open their minds to the fact that congoloidals–as a race–have sub-standard IQ’s…just as Amada wouldn’t open her ears. Plus, nig Lumumba had already screwed Amanda, and many women will give in to a man, in certain given circumstances and depending also upon her character or lack of, thereafter. In the the US, they are approximately 25% White on average, so yeah–they
are slightly ahead of their Afro-African monkey-cousins.
The pretense that they are the same as Whites is cruel to them. It causes them great suffering when they cannot perceive simple realities (e.g. how to organize societies and civilizations) as Whites can. Example–there are currently 50 murders a day in South Africa, it is also the rape capitol of the world, and the CIA factbook
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/sf.html
HIV/AIDS - adult prevalence rate:
21.5% (2003 est.) If niggers are so damned smart, then why can’t they be taught to pull a balloon over their dicks?
The sooner science proves the truth–and that is happening even now–the faster we can all get on to lowering expectations for congoloidals, wherever they roam and FOLLOW White people for our societal comfort-levels and our women.
Here is an essay as to the global hooey that brought about this state of affairs.
http://www.davidduke.com/general/3000_3000.html#more-3000
Political universalism does NOT lead to spiritual universalism or vice-versa.
Niggers are nature’s built-in walking early warning biological system– they look bad, they sound bad, and they usually smell bad.
I am sure that very few of you have either the attention spans or the depth of reasoning or vocabularies to comprehend that essay OR Professor Kevin MacDonald’s book:
http://podblanc.com/files/CultureOfCritique.pdf
Oh well; watch some of our videos and learn:
http://podblanc.com
November 12th, 2007 at 9:00 pm
The cctv video has been discounted by the judge as inconclusive. Cant even tell if it is a male or female…unfortunate that the internet has condemed her already though. All due to trash mags out of the UK and the Joke that is the italian judicial process. Though I doubt there is leaks in italy, there are people stupid enough to give money to someone that says they know something. Plenty of $$$ going around for the crap stories being printed.
Already though the hits on google have dropped to slightly less than what they were 4 days ago. Hopefully the stories and such will too and then perhaps some of the truth will emerge.
November 12th, 2007 at 11:43 pm
Amanda Knox is an amazing person, regardless of what ANYONE says.
I personally have met her on numerous occasions. Through the time that we had spent together, I came to know Amanda as being a fun, loving, kind, sweet hearted person who went out of her way to help others.
I do not believe Amanda was involved in the murder of Meredith. She is not that kind of a person. Why would she have said, in her blog, that she loved her new place in Italy, and loved her new roomates?
Yes. Officals may have found her footprints, and Yes, she may have claimed to hearing Merediths screams, but who is to say that she is guilty of MURDER.
There is NOT enough evidence (at least that I have found) to prove her giulty.
Maybe her footprints were found becasue she ran into the room where Meredith’s dead body lay, in shock and afraid, hoping that her friend wasnt killed!
She claims she was not in the room during the killing, but rather heard the screams of her flatmate from outside the room, and covered her ears. Maybe she covered her ears because she didnt want to hear her friend dying!!!
Amanda is a loving girl who would never do such a thing!
Dont judge her if you dont know her.
November 13th, 2007 at 3:31 am
Response to adam: how did you come to the conclusion that
I blame TV/Films for violence? It should be quite clear that I asked, in response to the outrage, what do we do to DISCOURAGE it. I am not naive enough for a second to scapegoat the entertainment industry, only to point out how such an industry is indicative of today’s culture of excess.
RESPONSE TO OTHERS:
Also to point out that the vitriolic outrage being expressed here is stained by a certain level of hypocrisy - it is an absurd reflex of judgement to want to TORTURE/ STARVE TO DEATH a murder suspect, or indeed convicted killer, as a just punishement…
TO REACT TO A MURDERER WITH MURDEROUS RHETORIC!
TO WANT TO CARRY OUT VIOLENT FANTASIES/PUNITIVE REVENGE ON A GIRL YOU BLAME FOR HAVING VIOLENT FANTASIES - AND ACTING ON THEM…
how I ask, with this kind of this deranged rhetoric do you prove yourself anyway more civilised than amanda knox???
To want to:
murder the murderer
terrorise the terrorist
barbarise the barbarian
…this proves that you are morally superior than the murder suspects??????
November 13th, 2007 at 8:56 am
Yeah guys, u r right!
But i said: “It is a shame that MOST OF AMERICAN students come to Italy to have fun, take drugs and have sex. I am sorry americans but this is what YOU SHOW US!
MOST OF americans and erasmus students come here just to HAVE FUN!…”
I have some american friends that i met here in Italy and they are kind and great.
But MOST OF ALL show us(world) that they are superficial and they are too self-centered with their look.
I am not saying that JUST BECAUSE AMANDA is involved in this crime. I am saying that cause i go out 2 or 3 times a week and I only see americans getting drunk and looking for guys or girls…
Here in Italy we only see O.C., Summerland…and another stupid mtv programs that show us how ignorant americans are.
If Amanda is guilty maybe it is not her fault, maybe is because of your ideas of what FUN is…maybe is because her education.
This is not the first or the second crime involving americans in Italy…If u come here and buy a newspaper u’ll see a lot of small crimes caused by americans.
All i have to say is that i don’t know if amanda is guilty or not…and i don’t care, it is HER PROBLEM. What i think about it won’t change the reality.
I just want u to know the world opinion about USA…
IN GENERAL we think that you are superficial and capitalist. And IN GENERAL we don’t want you to come to our country to get drunk and sing songs in the middle of the streets at 3am while people are sleeping. Is that too difficult to stay in america? Why u come to Europe??? I think u can drink and have some fun in america!!!
November 13th, 2007 at 9:19 am
Craig, in this day and age there is technology to trace anyone who posts on the web. I will pass on details of your posts to appropriate authorities and will have you investigated on hate speech. I just don’t understand why you are so stupid. Everything you accuse a whole race to be - i.e. looking bad, souding bad and smelling bad is exactly what you are like and you have no life. Get a grip because you are pathetic.
November 13th, 2007 at 10:37 am
several writers here are a shame for their countries, included raffaella who doesn’t reflect the opinion of most italians
November 13th, 2007 at 2:10 pm
Amanda is hot. She look like Bush’s daugther Jenna. Aledgedly, Amanda is cold as an ice. That make her even hotter.
November 13th, 2007 at 2:14 pm
Now, that she doesn’t flush the toilet, that is something to look at. She studied with the Jesuits. Why she shuld fo that. Someone answer?
November 13th, 2007 at 2:26 pm
“Amanda is hot. She look like Bush’s daugther Jenna. Aledgedly, Amanda is cold as an ice. That make her even hotter.”
Cokkonut,
How can you say that? She looks sooo granola and plain Jane, just like so many Seattle women. Maybe with some makeup and hair products she can look a little better. Do you ever go out from under your rock much?!?
Anyways, the truth will come out sooner or later. After suffering in Italian prisons, sooner or later someone or the other will break.
I still feel that it’s rather odd that a woman would invite a couple (or even a third) of men/animals to brutalize a roommate who she had a lot of common with. Just seems very cold and odd to me. To all these Amanda sympathizers - she’s not the oh-so-cute and innocent misunderstood girl that you think she is. I live in Seattle myself, and there are too many such women around, who are selectively nice to some people, and mean/snooty/dismissive to others. They’re only after their own gains and won’t bat an eyelid to stab others in the back if necessary (just figuratively speaking, hopefully!). The New York Times today ran an article on this incident, and the common perception of Amanda in Italy is “attentive to men, standoffish to women”. Hope she and her f-buddies rot in jail for a loooong time.
November 13th, 2007 at 7:27 pm
you guys are idiculous!!! this site and commenting is for Meredith, the girl murdered… by this alleged beautiful amanda girl.BOYS… grow up!!! if thats the kind of girl you want have at it….. cause the girls with real lives, and ambitions….dont want you!!! plus, the bitch is U-G-L-Y
November 14th, 2007 at 4:23 am
I thought euros were supposed to be smart. You puds aren’t showing me much, with one exception. I hope Foxy Knoxy gets it Midnight Express style in the slammer.Too bad she didn’t go to Turkey. They’d bash her in the third input so hard she’d need a colostomy bag to take a dump, oh wait, she’d probably enjoy that. Better yet, she likes hanging with soul brothers, send her down to the congo and those brothers can run a train and bore that ass out proper, a nice chocolate creamsicle with an HIV filling for that fat cow.I wish you nothing but misery you wicked, murdering, slut skank freak whore! That goes for your rich bitch Udub buddies too!
November 14th, 2007 at 7:41 am
Dear STAR, i am italian…i live in Italy…i have italian friends, an italian family…i travelled a lot around europe, south america and usa and I CAN SAY AMERICANS ARE THE WORST: WORLD’S OPINION!!! =)
THE WORLD DOESN’T LIKE U. STAY RIGHT THERE IN AMERICA and tell ur friends, family…EVERYBODY to do the same!
Specially u little STAR!
Thank you!
PS: only those kind of guys and girls who can’t socialize with another italians(cause of psicological problems) think u r nice just because they want to sleep with u! I AM SORRY IF I AM TELLING U THAT BUT IT IS THE REALITY!
November 14th, 2007 at 7:45 am
RESPONSE TO OTHERS:
i am sorry if i wrote those things, i know there is nothing to do with amanda…but i needed to response the little star!
PEACE AND LOVE GUYS!!!!
November 15th, 2007 at 11:52 am
Woooooo Woooooooooohhhh. I told them not to invite that nigger Woooooooooooo
November 15th, 2007 at 2:39 pm
Amanda Knox is feeling so guilty that she had to suck face with her boyfriend and then turn to the camera for a sultry pout. Let’s start burning witches again.
November 16th, 2007 at 5:09 am
I’ve never read one of these things before, but it’s insane! You people are in-fucking-sane!
Rafaella!? - What the fuck? Get it together girl! You’re talkin’ “hate the states”, “stay at home”, and then, “peace and love” in the same breathe? Are you stupid?
Most all of you hate on religion, race, nationality, culture, gender… Whaaaat the fuuuuuck!?
About that butt nutt Craig Cobb, I saw his website. The guy is insane everybody. He needs to be committed. Leave him alone. I mean, you can’t pay attention to crazy people… or is that what I’m doing right now?
I have to get out of this computer freak shit. I just saw a really dark side of our world and I’m flabbergasted! Most of you guys should listen to yourselves! First of all, you think you have the answers. You can’t spell. Your grammar sucks. Your points are intelligible. You repeatedly contradict yourselves. You talk in circles. Not to mention you have sooo much hate. You are the people that bitch about the world’s problems, and you are it! I bet you bitch about politics all the time… and look at yourselves! Are you all 17 years old or what? – I pray to God you are.
And hey Rafaella, next time you come to the states look me up. I’ll teach you how to snap a football. Then you’ll love us fo’sho! We’ll grow on you yet you lil ragazza you! Until then work on you’re spelling and English grammar. It’s pretty good, but needs some buffing up… just like dat asss. Gilipollas.
P.S.
Don’t bother responding to me gang. There aint no fuckin way I’ll check this sad site out again.
November 16th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Holy Shit: Well babe…i know i have some problems on spelling and grammar but at least i speak italian, spanish and portoghese.
=)
How about u?
And i just said the WORLD’S opinion!
November 16th, 2007 at 4:12 pm
Wow, talk about the darkside. Sorry Rafaella that you feel that way about Americans. Unfortunately it sounds like you had a pretty lousy time here or you watch too much of Hollywood. The truth is there are a great deal of really neat people that live in the States that are genuine loving people that don’t enjoy having the “American sterotype” placed on them. I understand that you and other Italians are disgusted by “some Americans” when they come to visit your beautiful country, but save your breath when it comes to making generalizations about all Americans, it’s not worth it nor is it true.
November 16th, 2007 at 4:15 pm
Amanda is hot!
November 16th, 2007 at 5:14 pm
Funny how “everybody” crucifed Craig Cobb for using the word nigger, and a good pecentage of people want to forgive 1 or more of the murderers?!?!?!?!? You people are retarded! So what if he’s a bigot. His words do not kill, and he’s entitled to his opinion no matter how uninformed it may be.
November 16th, 2007 at 11:45 pm
It always suprises me that whenever someone is arrested they are always described as sweet and angelic. Amanda looks like a skank. I mean if she had sex with this guy Sollecito on their first date she is not exactly an angel. For all you youngsters out there, girls like Amanda are good for one thing and you know what it is.
November 17th, 2007 at 1:06 am
Hahha. A NIGGER, a fucking inbred from nothern Italy and a Seattly bitch! Guess how they gonna treat them in jail… LOL Ouch, thats gon leave marks……. also, what I dont understand, why did that hore work in that immigrant NIGGER bar? She must have got a fucking student grant to go over there… Working for a NIGGER and killing your fellow students… now, thats a lillul bit harsh…. va van culo, biutch!!!!! In a Napoli prison, with lots of hardcore italian criminal lesbians…. LOL!
November 17th, 2007 at 9:59 am
Take it easy: you’re right, i agree with u.
I have some friends from us and they are really friendly!
But i just said: IN GENERAL…
My favourite singers are from america…some of my friends are americans, some of my favourite writers are from us etc…
November 18th, 2007 at 12:09 am
Cool..
Thanks for the reply. You know, I totally understand why you feel the way you do about Americans. I am often embarrased by America as a whole, and I think it sucks that some American exchange students are obnoxious when they visit your country.
November 18th, 2007 at 12:14 pm
I’d like to spend a night with her..
I’m sure after that she will tell the truth.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:34 pm
Take it easy: Yeah, i know…i feel embarased by italy and the world as a whole too. Maybe i over reacted.
I am happy that u understand me =)
You are a nice person!
Stammi bene! =)
November 19th, 2007 at 9:22 pm
She did NOT confess, those kids are innocent.
http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-1293382,00.html
November 21st, 2007 at 12:49 am
I agree with Raffaella, as she said there are also nice American Usa (though very few:)) But in my life between all the foreigners I have met AMERICANS USA are unique the worst one…
PS sorry for my grammar and spelling but i am not English speaking:)
November 21st, 2007 at 7:37 pm
I think it’s a real shame that this discussion about a crime ends up in agressivity and poor (not interesting) generalizations about Americans…this is ridiculous and disrespectful to Meredith’s memory.
Besides, I’ve read about Amanda on the Internet and she criticized the bad sides of the American system, so I don’t think that she deserves to be associated with them.
I think we shouldn’t judge anyone before knowing exactly what has happened.
I feel a great sadness about all that. Because yeah Erasmus and exchange programs are mostly fun, not much studying maybe…but for many people it has been a unique experience and a great memory that they keep in mind all life long.
This case is a real tragedy..
Take care everyone, Europeans, Americans, and others…everyone !
Live and love as much as you can, for the time in which you still can !
November 22nd, 2007 at 5:15 am
Michele,
you must have flushed your brain down the toilet this morning….
by the way, the correct spelling is VAFFANCULO, you worthless wastre of oxygen
November 23rd, 2007 at 6:47 am
AMANDA KNOX is a crazed liar and exhibitionist that told a friend in the carcere that she wil make a million writing a book when this is over. She is bathing in the publicity. She will never confess, just keep giving conflicting stories until the judges discount her testimony in pieno as that of a crazed Americana. Amanda is writing her diario only to make money when the trial of the liars ends. Amanda why not be the first to make a deal and testify against the others. In Italy it is called giudizio abbreviato. Ask your avvocato about it. End this circus!!!
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:31 pm
She will be home for christmas
November 23rd, 2007 at 2:53 pm
for thouse of you who are atall interested in murder look at oj simpson he was found not guilty in court and freed for the killing of his wife and her lover .later the family made a counter claim against oj and he was found guilty and made to pay all of his money to the family of his wife and lover .if you look deeper every one knows he was guilty but los angelis was just about to break out into massif riots if oj was found guilty the court decided he should be freed .after the video evedeince of two white police officers beating a black man rodney king with battens they were found not guilty even with video evedence riots were huge and many people were killed and shot looting and fire right across the state with many high profie people threatning to leave for ever if things continued .so oj could not be found guilty after thouse riots the LA,couldant take another riot get it,
November 23rd, 2007 at 3:06 pm
with regaud to this case meridith young llife has come to a sudden unnessaay end.thouse who are involved we hope will be imprisoned and worse .as for makeing money from her story.restiction can be put into the process by the judgess and to stop hollywood buying up the story for yet another tacky movie .any money must be made transparent and all the proceeds go to the family of meridith we can not bring her back but we need to move on with our own lives and watch out for these strange deranged weird frustrated people who fuel there sad lives by treading on other more individual nice people
November 27th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
Generalizations about Americans? What do you Americans do whenever one of your own dies overseas? Remember the Aruba boycott lol
November 27th, 2007 at 11:58 pm
Someone posted a comment saying that the reason this happened was because they were high on marijuana! You are such a dumbass! Weed has nothing to do with this crime, and the sick, death obsessed minds of these killers has everything to do with it.
November 28th, 2007 at 12:41 pm
Amanda Knox is said to be a normal American girl. Baby Grace;s mother, Kimberly, who brutally killed her little girl, is also said to be a normal American girl of roughly the same age as Amanda. America leads the world in mothers who kill their children and the numbers of women criminals of all types are exploding in the U.S. America take notice…these are the trends in your country and they do not look good. Something is very sick across the pond.
November 29th, 2007 at 3:26 am
craig knob - you suck. probably a nerd without any friends. you wouldnt be heard elsewhere if it wasnt for your little pc. shame.
who has watched DEXTER? imagine we could sentence murderers to DEATH the same way they have killed. Brilliant idea. Except, im not sure i would like to carry out that job im afraid.
ps. i think it will be centuaries before this world (if it still exists) becomes a safe and beautiful, sin-free world.
i think SURVIVAL is the way forward. optimism is over-rated. sorry.
November 29th, 2007 at 3:31 am
i live in south africa and crazy things happen here. not more than anywhere else though.. but same thing: no death penalty.. democratic goverment.. people drift in an out of jail for unspeakable things. i cant believe people support it.. i just cant.
November 30th, 2007 at 2:11 pm
Craig is right. Niggers are niggers and all they want to do is kill white men and rape and kill white women. Burn them all!
November 30th, 2007 at 3:48 pm
The international civil rights organization Action4Justice (AFJ-AXJ) has requested Italian Judges to inform them immediately why this case has been seen behind “closed doors” and AXJ representatives were not permitted in the Court Room for the hearing. “What type of third world system of Justice is this” comented an Italian AXJ activist. http://www.action4justice.com
November 30th, 2007 at 6:07 pm
I know it’s a little late rafaella, but may I say that I am perfectly content staying here in America, you don’t have to give me permission. Thanks anyway though.
I’m tired of people giving their little “world opinion” on such matters, and it’s about time people realize that America isn’t a country full of obnoxious people that try and take advantage of other countries, but we’ll be happy to stay here, just quit posting comments about how our country is so terrible, while you’re sitting in a country that’s full of drugs, murder, and every other crime that occurs in any country. It’s pathetic that you must put down other people to make you feel more content about yourselves, so I hope you’re just happy
December 1st, 2007 at 3:27 pm
Amanda Knox is hot .
December 1st, 2007 at 3:30 pm
So, to all those who have read this subjective shit I suggest you read the real story by a real journalist, Amanda Knox and her boyfriend have not confessed and they are most likely not even envolved according to rising evidence.
Also, I think its amusing how many of you are jeering, accuseing or criticizing America for Amanda Knox. Are you really that intimidated and full of hatred for a great country that you jump at absolutly anything to generalize us all? What about the English suspects, or the Ivory Coast suspects? There are millions of sick twisted people all over the world most of whom do not live in the US.
Furthermore, adressed to rafaella: We have enough of our fun, drugs, and sex in our own country Italy provides nothing extrodinary in those regards so I suggest you pick your ignorant face up and stick it in a newspaper to understand the reality of the world. If you base your judgment of U.S. citizens off of what you see on MTV I think you prove my point for me. I don’t base my opinion of Italy off all the steryotypical gangster movies and such so in no way is it fair that you turn right around and call me horrible. Americans go to Italy to enjoy how beautiful the culture, landscape, and history is. Also may I remind you that millions of Italiens have flocked to our nation for protection and a better life… OR do you think they should remain in the corrupt deadlock “democracy” that is called the Italien government?
December 2nd, 2007 at 1:05 am
Well, I don’t know if anyone will still look at this, but I hope so. In particular Rafaelle (I like your name) or anyone else who has American hate. I am not from America but my boyfriend is American and I spent several years there in study. All countries have there generalizations but I hope we are all intelligent enough to realize non-of them are true…unless we’re talking about Texas.
I for one, would like to thank the Americans because I am still parlais francaises and we should all be thankful because German is a hard language to learn.
PS Rafaella you forgot the most importent romance: no french?! …and you should find a GOOD american man, he’ll change your thoughts
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:07 am
Whats race got ta do with it??? Anyone who was present during this girl’s last horrible moments in this world is as guilty as the one wielding the knife. Period. Meredith’s parents did NOT bring her into this world for her to be taken out in such a manner. As for Amanda being hot or not, or a sweet girl someone knew, its just sickening to waste anyone’s time with such comments. She was THERE. She did NOTHING to help her. She changed her story three times. Sometimes the person you think you know is only the facade that person put forth. I hope justice comes to Meredith’s family, and shame on everyone who has changed the focus to race and international opinion wars. Too ignorant. I wont be back either, I dont care to see people use others’ tragedies to air their ignorant issues as a sidebar.
December 2nd, 2007 at 4:00 pm
American Lady, Amanda may or may not have been onsite during the murder, but the implication that Amanda “knew” her roommate was being murder and did nothing is baseless. She claims she covered her ears to avoid hearing Meridith’s screams, but in that state of mind likely thought Meridith was in the throws of passion with someone.
If I heard you in the room with some guy going at it, God forbid, I would certainly cover my ears also.
December 2nd, 2007 at 5:58 pm
Craig Cobb… Bet you are a real time NOBODY who has to be SOMEBODY somewhere…. Well, you´re not even good for a laugh, boy….
December 2nd, 2007 at 6:01 pm
D-Rock… See the above comment
December 2nd, 2007 at 6:05 pm
Besides, keep in touch with the news… Lumumba guy is out of jail with NO CHARGES against him…but still waiting for some apologizes…
December 2nd, 2007 at 9:39 pm
UK Daily Mail - Amanda Knox News Story 12-02-07
“Amanda Knox, the American student accused of killing Meredith Kercher has changed her story again, claiming she was framed by her boyfriend after he committed the murder.
Amanda Knox now says she was sleeping at Raffaele Sollecito’s house all night, while he sneaked over to Meredith’s flat, sexually assaulted her, cut her throat, then returned to plant Knox’s fingerprints on the knife.
It is the latest in a string of stories Knox, 20, has told police as she protests she is innocent of the murder of her flatmate in Perugia, Italy.
Initially, she claimed she was at Sollecito’s house all night, only discovering Meredith’s body the next morning. But on November 6 she claimed she left Sollecito’s house at 8.30pm to meet Diya Patrick Lumumba, whom she brought back to the flat where he had sex with Meredith.
On Friday, she apologised for accusing him of being involved in Meredith’s death, after he was released without charge.”
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:24 am
I agree with Rafaella.
I spent a semester in Perugia a few years ago (erasmus program) with 87 other Americans. I was the only American that could speak Italian. I was the only American that didn’t get drunk every night. I was the only American that didn’t waste time and money shopping for clothes. I was disgusted by the other Americans and their lack of common sense, be it walking home alone in the middle of the night, paying attention to who they brought home (someone was sexually assaulted in a date-rape context after they brought sketchy guys home).
I was involved in a situation where my roommate gave out our address to random men, one of whom came to the door and wouldn’t leave when I told him that my roommate wasn’t there.
These were people from tiny towns who had never experienced anything outside their small town in the Midwest. They had no concept of how to act towards a host country, no concept of hospitality, conduct, good behavior and general social decorum outside of getting wasted as much as possible and being drunk and sloppy.
I had decided to go to Perugia because I wanted to experience Italy where I could speak Italian with the people and not speak English the whole time. I was disappointed with the program, but mostly with my fellow Americans who were embarrassing in every way.
Forza Raffaella - non siamo mica tutti cosi - sono un’americana che capisce cosa vuol dire essere nel vostro paese - ormai quando vado a trovare mio fidanzato ligure e vediamo dei americani faccio finta di niente…
mi sono veramente vergognata quando ho letto quello che tu e altri italiani avete detto a riguardo - SONO AGGHIACCIANTI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! La maggior parte FA SCHIFO.
December 3rd, 2007 at 11:48 am
Only YOU behaved respecfully….only YOU spoke ITALIAN….only YOU didn’t get sloppy drunk and disgusting…YOU are the model American….
Everyone else was an idiot and a pig…
Get over yourself. And it must be wonderful waking up every morning with disdain for your own country and with such delusional feelings of superiority. Please.
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:28 pm
Let’s clear things up here.
Nowhere in my post did I mention disdain for my own country. Americans are fine. When they get to another country, however, they have a tendency to act as they please.
Does this mean that the world should just conform to whatever Americans want? Or should they try, for just a second, to think about someone other than themselves?
December 3rd, 2007 at 12:39 pm
I suggest you go back and re-read your post and then try to evaluate it objectively. It is arrogant, filled with hyperbole, obviously exaggerated and last but not least, pompous. Do you think that just maybe you were painting things with an overly broad brush? Nothing like going overboard to perpetuate stereotypes. And only you had it together over there. EVERY other person was a loathsome slob. Who could argue? I am sure you have it right.
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:12 pm
Shall I go even more broad? Do we want to discuss all the times I had to take trains to other cities and found a carriage full of Americans loudly discussing their previous night’s exploits without looking to see who was inconvenienced?
The times I overheard Americans asking “Do you speak English?” only to ask me where they could find the train, when the information was provided in Italian RIGHT BEHIND THEM on a giant board?
The time I visited Assisi to find a huge group of American high school students on the public bus, eating, screaming, and making fun of everyone?
I don’t really care about what they do, but I’d like someone to admit that MOST Americans behave this way when they are in another country. And it’s true, I’m sure I overlook those who behave respectfully (by not calling attention to themselves), but this is the bottom line:
I am embarrassed when I have to explain to Italians that just because I’m American I don’t
A) Invade other countries
B) Behave rudely
C) Order food in a restaurant in English
D) Want to be associated with other Americans travelling
December 3rd, 2007 at 1:58 pm
Ah, well there is the confirmation. I redirect you back to my first reply.
And for reference, here is a portion of your first reply:
“Nowhere in my post did I mention disdain for my own country. Americans are fine.”
Here is your last paragraph in your last reply:
“I am embarrassed when I have to explain to Italians that just because I’m American I don’t
A) Invade other countries
B) Behave rudely
C) Order food in a restaurant in English
D) Want to be associated with other Americans travelling”
Simply put, you are an idiot.
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:09 pm
I said I’m EMBARRASSED when I have to explain this.
Embarrassment is different from disdain. I don’t know how this is so hard to understand.
Simply put:
Americans, in another country, are embarrassing.
Feel free to travel abroad, and, when you do, your opinion will be different!
December 3rd, 2007 at 2:41 pm
I have traveled abroad extensively over the last 20 or so years. My opinion is very much in opposition to yours, thank you.
And, my God, how did you survive the humiliation of hearing someone ordering food in….horrors!….English? You poor thing.
Oh, and just one more thought with regard to those terrible humilations you suffered due to your horrid fellow Americans. Let’s take your specific humiliation under “A) Invade other countries.”
In 1944, my uncle was part of an invading force to liberate the country of Italy from the enslavement of facist Nazis. He arrived in Sicily, then came to the Italian mainland. He fought northward with the 5th Army. In September of that year, he was just north of Florence, fighting in a pivotal battle against the Nazis at Mt. Altuzzo, not far from the little town of Scarperia. It was a hellish event, though like so many battles during that war, it is known less and less. There he was killed, along with a great many others—among about 18,000 of our people who died liberating that beautiful country. I have visited Italy many times over the years and many other countries of the world.
Last year, I was visiting a memorial at the site of that battle. There I met several Italians–seniors who were alive while those events occurred. Many of them cried when we spoke. In particular, I remember one lady who was a young girl, living on the other side of the mountain when the Americans came. She said to me, “You Americans—God bless you.”
Am I embarrassed when I go there? I can assure you, that will never happen.
December 3rd, 2007 at 7:18 pm
GOD BLESS AMERICA!
December 3rd, 2007 at 8:06 pm
I am in full agreemant Jack.I have also traveled in countless countries and met countless people.
It is true Sara some high school students are extrmemly disrespectful and humiliating… to themselvs! It is unfair and unjust to judge an entire nation by any number of travelers. I speak Spanish and French fluently and have learned several native African languages….and yet when I am in Europe or abroad I do order food in English, I even strike up conversations in english. GASP! it is the most known and taught language world wide and many know it, and are oftn quite eager to speak English.
My grandfathers are also vets, one took 3! bullets to the head at the Bulge and the other was involved with a special unit that moved through France and Germany liberating, saving, and killing. They then were removed from just outside Berlin to Italy and then moved back for the camps. Because of them Italy can still speak Italien, because of them you can order your food in Italien!!!
I am embarrassed of YOU for being an American and all who may speak like you because of a few high school students or ill politics. My brother is fighting in Iraq t the moment SAVING LIVES. Perhaps it was not a called for war, but the children he takes in his arms and carries out of hell fire will never forget him “the American” and he will never forget the kids bleeding to death in his arms. If he is who you were referencing with the “A) Invade other countries” PLEASE by all means move to Italy if you cannot be proud of your country and our people!!!
THOSE WHO BITE THE HAND THAT FEED THEM MAKE ME SICK!!!
PS My fiance is Italien
December 4th, 2007 at 10:02 am
I love the fact that if anyone says anything vaguely critical of Americans they become anti-American.
I also like it when you can pull World War II into any argument - back when the enemies were clear cut and obvious, when there was a Good vs. Evil.
Nowadays, however, it’s not that simple. When I was living in Perugia at the beginning of the second Iraq war, there were constant anti-American protests - not only in Perugia, but all over Italy. Note that this was not a lone American saying, “gee, I wish Americans were more respectful in other countries,” but people burning the American flag, which had a Nazi swastika painted on it.
Many people in other countries resent American policy and American wars. I just commented on the fact that I thought people might want to think about their host country before they get wasted and yell in the streets (a comment mostly directed towards college students and backpackers).
December 4th, 2007 at 10:44 am
Just the sort of silly, superficial and weak-kneed reponse I would expect from someone who instinctively believes that anyone with a foreign accent is morally and culturally superior to their own countrymen.
And swastikas on American flags? You mention it as if it makes perfect sense to you. I suggest that, instead of wallowing in your insecurities and shallowness about Americans, you read some history. You might find that referring to your own country in the same universe as Nazi Germany is not only utterly stupid, but shameful.
As for the World War II references, it might just bear considering that those young men who gave up their lives in places such as Italy, made it possible for silly people like yourself to sit around in sunny cafes sipping espresso and expressing shame about Americans.
To that I offer this Italian expression that you should be familiar with:
vergognati! (shame on you)
December 4th, 2007 at 12:45 pm
The swastikas on the flags was not my idea, obviously. Whether or not it makes sense to me is not the point. The point is that mindless nationalism (take the hint), no matter what the subject, makes people in other countries hate us.
The fact that they would use such a symbol shows that this is how they see us. If you choose to ignore it, that’s your own problem.
And it will continue to be like this until people are… gasp! introspective.
December 4th, 2007 at 1:41 pm
. . . introspective . . . ah, so that’s what it is. Thank you for that valuable insight.
December 4th, 2007 at 4:03 pm
New Definition of Introspective:
1. Anti-Americanism by an American; 2. A pathology rooted in severe insecurities in which one harbors loathing and disdain for those in one’s own county; 3. An irrational tendency to be embarrassed by one’s countymen as a result; 4. A smug, silly superiority combined with this afflication; 4. A lack of any rational historical context for one’s beliefs thereto; 5. An affliction analagous to the so-called Stockholm Syndrome, but in thought only whereby one accepts or adopts as superior and proper, any ridiculous stereotype, or preposterous or thoroughly exaggerated or inaccurate notion held by any foreign person; 6. An intellectual bankruptcy in which one rationalizes such thoughts as based on a delusional of higher intelligence or thought process; 7. An abberant behavior in which one is unable to say whether or not placing a swatika on an American flag is appropriate or logical, and further believing that such a practice, done by foreign persons, must have validity.
December 4th, 2007 at 6:34 pm
Sara, first of all, you accused Jack of mindless nationalism. Is that the definition of any nationalism? Because he has articulately proven that he is very patriotic, and anything from mindless. Second of all, you keep lumping all nation’s opinions of the US based on what you saw in Italy…and most likely what the media tells you.
If you believe what the mdia tells you then, indeed, you are like everyother arogent and ignorant person. you say “makes people in other countries hate us.” Tell me, who are these other countries that you know so well? Are they the whinning developed countries who hate the US because we currently hold the world power they want? Or are they the millionsof suffering women in children whom the US provides life for in billions every year?
Anyone who affiliates the Nazis with the US, or any other country, for that matter (including modern day Germany) aught to be ashamed of themselvs, and anyone who sees it aught to immediatly remove it and kick the shit out of the person (or would that make to cool Italiens not like you?). It is an insult to the people, not only in the US, but to the 6 million who lost their life in the camps. If we compare what the survivors went through to American political policy, what has this world’s ignorance come to?
December 4th, 2007 at 10:26 pm
An author points out similarities between King Leopold’s disastrous invasion of Congo and the war in Iraq.
By Adam Hochschild, ADAM HOCHSCHILD is the author, among other books, of “King Leopold’s Ghost: a Story of Greed, Terror and Heroism in Colonial Africa.” It was a finalist for the National Book Critics Circle Award and h
December 22, 2006
DEAR MR. PRESIDENT:
Your interview in the Washington Post made headlines across the country Wednesday because you continued to talk about “victory” in Iraq — a hint that you may increase the number of American troops there.
But it caught my eye for a different reason. In it (after expressing some “befuddlement” at the suggestion that you do not read books), you explained that the most recent book you read was “King Leopold’s Ghost,” about the plundering of Congo a century ago. This pleased me because I wrote that book.
Sometimes college history classes that read “King Leopold’s Ghost” invite me in for a seminar. Before you ask Karl to call me, however, let me just say that I regret that I’m not going to be able to do that in this case. The Christmas season is a busy time, after all, and I’m going away for a while. Instead, let me just raise a few follow-up questions with you here.
First, as you now know, the long effort by King Leopold II of Belgium to bring Congo under his control was driven by his avid quest for a commodity central to industry and transportation: rubber. Does that remind you of anything?
What’s more, the king justified his grab for Congo’s natural resources with much talk about bringing philanthropy and Christianity to darkest Africa. Now what did that remind you of?
Leopold cleared at least $1.1 billion in today’s dollars during the 23 years he controlled Congo, and his businessmen friends made additional huge sums. Much of the money flowed into companies with special royal concession rights to exploit the rain forest. Final question, for extra credit: Do those companies remind you of anything? If you mentioned Halliburton or DynCorp, you’re right again.
As a reader of history, you must have been interested, I’m sure, in something else in the Congo story: the case of another world leader facing his own Abu Ghraib scandal.
As you noticed, Mr. President, King Leopold II was a master of public relations. He was really his own Karl Rove — which saved money on staff salaries at the royal palace in Brussels. For years the press at home and abroad dutifully praised his efforts to bring “civilization” to Africa; a whole shipload of Belgian journalists went to Congo in 1898 to enthuse about the opening of a new railroad.
But, like you, he got into big trouble through photographs. These were mainly taken by a British missionary named Alice Harris, and they showed Congolese being whipped, chained as hostages and with their hands cut off by Leopold’s soldiers. Through the efforts of a British journalist named Edmund Dene Morel, whom the king liked about as much as you like Seymour Hersh, these photos were splashed on front pages all over the world.
ARE THERE OTHER similarities between your situation and Leopold’s? That’s for you to decide. I hope you don’t end up like him. Statues of Leopold in Congo have long been toppled, one in Belgium was recently mutilated, and streets named after him there are having their names changed. And all this despite the fact that his family remains in the monarchy — something that may well be the case for your family here as well.
If you send those additional troops to Iraq and don’t swiftly withdraw the ones now there, I suspect that even the efforts of the twins, when their turns in the Oval Office come, or of Jeb’s kids, when they get there, will not be enough to stave off a similar judgment on you 100 years from now. It’s true that you’ve not slashed the population of Iraq in half, as Leopold and those who immediately followed him did in Congo, but that’s small comfort.
For your next assignment, Mr. President, how about a different sort of reading? Ask Laura to stuff your Christmas stocking with books about people who’ve had the courage to change their minds. One former tenant of the house you live in, Lyndon B. Johnson, entered politics as a traditional segregationist but ended up doing more for civil rights than any American president of his century. Another, Dwight D. Eisenhower, spent half his life in the U.S. military but gave us (a little late) an eloquent warning about the military-industrial complex.
Another ex-military man, Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler of the U.S. Marine Corps, won the Medal of Honor twice, but then ended up denouncing the oil companies and agribusiness corporations he realized that he had been fighting for in U.S. interventions in Central America.
History is filled with such people, and I wish you many inspiring hours reading about them. And, in the coming two years, I hope you’ll act on their example.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:05 am
you talk about big companies go right ahead, oil companies are manipulating its true, but my guess is that you have a car…and you drive it. Therefore you and your fellow hypocrits are the reason for the American trouble in the midlle east. BUt, the area has always had unrest and religious conflict, Bush did not create that.
And when you see it fit to replace your own words with those of a subjective historian DO NOT even DARE to tell me that King Leopold is Geaorge Bush not only is Bush a horrible relations man (like Leopold was not) but the amount of destruction Belgium induced upon the DRC is in no way f—king close to what the US has done in Iraq.
Here you hit a nerve. I have dedicated my work and health to the people of the Democratic Republic of the Congo and what Leopold did to the country lasted for centuries. And is no where near the 60 years of Iraqi trouble, brought mostly by the UK seeing it fit to lump very different Ethnicities into one country in order to benifit the Queen’s own oil reserves, a horrible sedistic dictator, and now religious genocide close to what I have seen and heard and smelled.
December 5th, 2007 at 4:25 am
is it just me or does rafaelle look a lot like Harry Potter? just a thought.
December 5th, 2007 at 10:25 am
Gabrielle:
You are dealing with a lost cause here. It was so clear from that first post. First there was all the tiresome, whiny nonsense about how horrible and embarrassing all of us fellow Americans are. This is that peculiar derangement syndrome in which it is thought that we are to exist in perpetual shame, believing ourselves to be moronic, uncultured bumpkins, always inferior to anyone who speaks in a foreign tongue.
I know numerous people who are highly educated, bright, sophisticated people who regularly travel the world. And many others who are as nice and respectful as can be. But how could they be the equal of even the lowliest foreigner? After all, they are not . . . foreign.
All of this, of course, goes hand in hand with that idiotic brand of moral relativism as you have just seen. This is the sort of refuse peddled by extremist (and thus American-hating) websites, burnt-out 60’s era professors and other champions of negativism. The same sorts who have Che Guevara posters on their shabby walls, extoll the virtues of murderous tyrants like Castro, throw their arms around thugs like Hugo Chavez–and any number of other human blights—particularly if they stick a thumb in the eye of the U.S. Forget that they murder, torture, enslave, abolish freedom and create genuinely tyranical societies.
They regularly equate the U.S., with complete and outrageous inaccuracy, with the genuinely imperialist, genocidal regimes of history (many of whom were only vanquished through our own blood and treasure–but don’t bring that up–it doesn’t count, you see). Indeeed, in Europe (where we are so embarasssing, as you know) many chose to sit idly by, or were complicit, in much of the most horrible genocide in human history.
It is a twisted intellectual dishonesty, but often bought into by the gullible, including any number of clueless undergrads and those pre-disposed to such idiocy–such as those who are terrorized by someone ordering food in English in a foreign country. These are the sorts whose default explanation for any number of geo-political conflicts consist of “it’s about the oil.”
I am sure that many of the world’s citizens, who live under the oppression and horror of the world’s real tyrants—many of whom rot in jails for expressing mere dissent—can only dream of living so free and easy as to spend a moment worrying about whether someone from their own country is ordering properly in a foreign restaurant. Speak to someone from eastern Europe—someone who really knows. But then again, they probably cannot imagine that life could be so superficial and vacuous and lived so foolishly.
December 5th, 2007 at 12:37 pm
I have encountered so many imbecilic poseuses of sara’s ilk. they are immune to intelligent discussion, any challenge of their INSUFFERABLE pretensions (invariably completely unfounded pretensions), because of course they know everything, are superior to all those tired hoi polloi AMERICANS, and live to pontificate in their tired, whiny, cliche-ridden, exhausted, sophomoric way.
sara, no one likes this. no one likes you. no one is amused by your frantic attempts to appear superior.
Go back to Playschool (that is to say ACADEMIA). it’s the only place that will ever accept you, my dear. LOL!
December 5th, 2007 at 6:08 pm
Sara….your first post was right on the mark. Don’t waste your time sparring with Jack-ass. He misses the significance of the different sets in the play.
J
December 5th, 2007 at 6:51 pm
oh well now, I think we have challanged Sara sufficianlty. And if we all know these cowerdice academics then we all know they are too ignorant to consider themselvs wrong. I say ignorant for a reason, not arogant.
I am in fact an uber patriotic person but have not lived in the US for two years now; and have hence encountered many a person who sees eye to eye with our dear (and always superior) Sara. It is interesting that the people who “hate” the US people are all the ones whom live not only in the lap of luxury, but insult the poverty stricken by claiming they know what a hard life is. In other words if you have nothing but your rash opinion to state you might want to keep it to yourself. Chances are a three year old in India has seen more, and could tell you more good the US has done, then you could read about in a thousand media reports.
And so Sara, if you ever look at this again, I apologize if you felt unjustly accused but every word you stated established an ungreatfull anti-American opinion. I’m sure your a more intelligent person than your opinion lets on, I simply suggest you take a look back at the country that has fought to let you whine about how much you dislike it. And yes, you might not have said anything about dislike for America, but America is her people…thats the beauty of our nation. Therefore an ill concieved word against American people is an ill concieved word against her and her glorious history.
I ask you to truly consider Mr. Kennedy’s famus words