Solanum Virus – Archaeologists are buzzing over evidence an ancient zombie outbreak caused by the Solanum virus at Hierakonpolis in pre-dynastic times may have led to the formation of Egytian civilization.
Drawing inspiration from the Solanum virus research of Max Brooks classic reference work The Zombie Survival Guide (2003), intrepid archaeologists learned that in 1892, a British dig at Hierakonpolis unearthed a nondescript tomb containing a partially decomposed body, whose brain had been infected with the virus (Solanum) that turns people into zombies.
Zombie victims were decapitated on this stone to prevent an outbreak:
Zombie brain preserved in the skull of Burial 350. Analysis may provide the answer to the history of the Solanum virus and ultimately lead to its cure!
Evidence of the ancient zombie attack at Hierakonpolis is irrefutable. Scientists are applying for further research funding from the Pentagon aimed at developing a modern day army of mutant zombie killers.
Sadly, one of the top archaeologists working at the dig site became infected by the zombie virus and had to be put down:
But rumor has it he’ll be back soon to help finish the dig:
Read more about their fascinating quest for the truth behind the earliest known zombie attack in the latest issue of Archaeology magazine.
And that’s the latest news on the ancient Egyptian zombie outbreak caused by the Solanum virus.
Tags: archaeology, science, solanum virus, zombie, zombie virus
November 9th, 2007 at 10:56 am
[...] hitsusa wrote an interesting post today on Solanum VirusHere’s a quick excerptDrawing inspiration from the Solanum virus research of Max Brooks classic reference work The Zombie Survival Guide (2003), intrepid archaeologists learned that in 1892, a British dig at Hierakonpolis unearthed a nondescript tomb … [...]
November 11th, 2007 at 7:33 pm
zombies in egypt?
November 19th, 2007 at 10:25 pm
Are you guys on crack or something? The Zombie Survival Guide is a book of complete bull sheet.
November 19th, 2007 at 10:35 pm
The pictures you guys posted are fake as heck because the hand is cheap novilty toy that you can find at any store for hollowen props and joke stores. Also the virus is not air born and is only passable to the victim by bit wounds.
November 28th, 2007 at 9:50 am
This is coming from an actual article in a serious publication. True, the Zombie Survival Guide is fake, but maybe there is some truth to some of it.
Read more here:
http://www.archaeology.org/online/features/hierakonpolis/zombies.html
February 5th, 2008 at 8:58 pm
I jus want to know if this solanum virus is real or not because my dad doesnt know the disease and he’s a medical team person on the firedepartment in our county and I’ve read the zombie survival guide and it’s not that bad I think.
February 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Virus Code. 00.067.0.01.006. Virus Accession number 67010006.
Synonym(s): solanum nigrum mosaic virus, solanum nodiflorum virus.
Approved acronym: SNMV.
Virus infects plants.
Description is on taxonomic level of species. Virus is an approved species in the genus. Virus belongs to the genus Sobemovirus (VC 00.067.0.01.).
Virus first reported in Solanum nodiflorum, an endemic species (Henderson, 1974). From eastern Australia. Reference(s): Greber (1965).
June 8th, 2008 at 12:43 am
I’ve read The Zombie Survival Guide. The part that I was most intersted in was the back of the book where they talk about real supposable outbreaks. But something caught my eye when I was reading it. I saw a pattern with the virus. Most supposable outbreak is near salt water. If the Solanum virus is true, could there but a parist in the water that has this virus? And when its contact with the host, it makes the host go crazy and changes physical features on the host. I might be wrong but its just a thought.
August 29th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
If you all want to know how the first person is infected by the virus is by slat water and a plant but you have to have a open wound. That’s all that I could fin on it. The Zombie Survival Guide could be fake yes but the points it makes are somewhat to unreal to not be true if you do enough studying on the virus you’ll find that a lot of well known scientists have done work on it. Go to yahoo or Google and type in Solanum studies and you’ll almost everything you want to know about it. Now am I saying this stuff is real no but it might be who knows. You guys can believe it or not but I’ll keep an open mind on this un-till I find some hard facts till then I won’t say real or not real cause I really don’t know.
September 24th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
this is real or not ?
October 12th, 2008 at 11:17 pm
your salt water theory is correct it comes from a blow fish called fuge or something like that.
in japan you have to by licenced by the gav to eat it. mostly any where els it is illegal to have any thing to do with it.
October 12th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
sorry gov not gav
November 4th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
i beleive in zombies theres way too much evidence. and all you people that say the goverment would tell us, the goverment tells us as much of a story as there is a plot line in a porno. the fact that most attacks are near an ocean or body of water is that theyre is a documented attack where a small ship crashed and was lost from record. now if the zombies dont need oxygn to survive then they could continue to survive until an ocean current carried them towards land.
there was a documented attack where a team of russian scientists and soldiers were attacked by the undead but they were able to take refuge in a prison. WELL about a week later the russian goverment unleashed a nuclear bomb on top of the site. why if it was just a prison?
after that villages in the olden days would just dissapear or be “wiped out” in a spot where they have fresh water shelter and plenty of food and farming.
the evidence is indesputible and i beleive if the goverment has to hide it then they know that they cant control it. please email me at loganpatterson75@yahoo.com if you have questions or comments.
November 4th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
im sorry my real yahoo address is logamn@yahoo.com
December 17th, 2008 at 3:05 am
Max Brooks, the author of the zombie survival guide is a comedian. The guide is great, but completly fictional. By the way, that egyptian ‘decapitation stone’ is really the Narmer Palette. the pictures depict the unification of upper and lower egypt, not zombie execution. just letting the readers know that this is all bs.
January 11th, 2009 at 10:34 pm
The Solanum virus is very plausible. But so far I personally have found no facts to back up its excistance. If anyone would like to share any info on this virus please leave a comment with the info and where you got it from.
January 16th, 2009 at 8:47 pm
this is so not real
January 24th, 2009 at 9:39 pm
this is all pure interpretation if you thing max brooks was serious than who knows? maybe he was maybe he wasn’t. The bottom line is there is no concrete evidence to support whither or not the virus is a “zombie” virus.
The guide makes sense in my opinion. It would be a good tool if this were to actually occur. No one is stupid for thinking that zombies could exist.
January 25th, 2009 at 8:26 am
keep saying its not real when a zombie bites ur arm
February 6th, 2009 at 5:18 am
The solanum virus can be transmitted in a number of ways. dont rule any sort of blood carrier out. mosquitos wood ticks and even some rats have potential to carry the virus. the virus solanum is known to come from the Mononegavirales family. mainly the virus is transmitted through a paritcular family known as the Ixodidae family of ticks. These tics often bite rodents such as mite or rats, and then the rodents transmit the virus to different areas of the country even the world. it is possible for a live infected rodent to board a large ship, it could bite one of the crew and the crew member would just spread it. the wood ticks posess this virus simply through natural processes, not from a certain source. they are infact bourn with it. these particular kind of ticks are found mostly throught the tropical regions close to the equator. This is the reason for the larger numbers of outbreaks in this area. since the ticks only deposit such a small amount of the solanum virus it is possible that the strongest human immune systems could fight it off before it does to much damage. those with weaker immune systems have a much greater chance of being infected by the virus. once the virus is succesful in transforming a human being, the zombie then transmitts much larger amounts of the virus through its bodily fluids, and infects more and more people until there is an outbreak.
email me at here if yu have any questions
dirttyteeth@msn.com ( its my band email)
ima boy im 15 my name is ino
February 19th, 2009 at 1:03 pm
this is complete bullshit you guys are so fucking stupid there could be an outbrake anywhere in time and you dumbasses joke about it so shut the fuck up and those pictures are fucking fake
March 8th, 2009 at 10:50 pm
Only problem with what u said Ino
is that insects and animals stay away from Solanum.
(Or at least the zombie)
April 4th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
well all of these comments should be atleast examined by max brooks himself i have read his book and it seems completely plausible. In my opinion i think its not a bad thing to be a little prepared for this out break god forbid or not i wouldent mind if this outbreak happend it seems exciteing. well im going to be prepared and ready
April 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
This pics are fake, at least the captions under them, especially the one with the man being decapitated with a shovel, he wasn’t infected they were demonstrating how to kill a zombie. Also there is no cure for solanum so the brains and stuff didn’t lead to a cure, this article is retarded, if you need to know about zombies just read the guide… don’t believe stupid bullshit like this
April 16th, 2009 at 1:21 am
Sometimes comedians don’t know what they’re starting.
Max Brooks, as many people have mentioned here wrote The Zombie Survival Guide in the spirit of humour. He’s also written a new book World War Z, a good zombie read if ever there was one.
The Solanum virus is completely fictional. Brooks will attest to this. Zombification however, is not entirely without truth.
A reknowned Australian Scientist explains in full here: http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2004/12/09/1260445.htm
The general gist of it is that a person is nearly killed using a special posoin that slows breathing and heartrate such that the zombie-to-be appears dead. In the Carribean where these myths originate from, heat and inadequate facilities mean dead people get buried quickly to stop them decaying in the streets.
Within eight hours of being buried the unfortunate is exhumed and given a second drug. This drug fries the poor victims brain such that recent memories are erased, personality disappears, the person has no connection with reality. They are also highly suggestable in this state and are put to work as slave labour.
This was all found out because of one zombie, who managed to wander into Haiti while the drug gradually wore off and managed to recall enough of his childhood memories to identify himself to his little sister.
But the “muh braaaaains, BRAAAAAAINS” kind of zombies don’t really exist, just good television.
April 16th, 2009 at 1:26 am
Oh and a special note to the fifteen year olds who are still believing in a book that was written as a joke:
Lay off the late night tv and the crack, which actually contains similar neuro-chemicals to the one used in the Haitian zombification process.
I study neuroscience at the university of sydney. Which gives me a lot more credibility than those of you who would say “i’m lik totaly a profesro at harvord.”
April 19th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
Thanks for the explination Man wth a brain. That makes sense. But isnt there a possibility of a real zombie virus? At all? Obviously the book is fake, but it does pose an intresting question that could be answered by zombies. Like the entire colony disapearing from america, or the vikings never settling in greenland. Or why ancient native americans made “sacrifices” to the gods by severing the heads of people. Not to say, there are other explinations, but…
April 26th, 2009 at 9:01 am
There is no such thing. All of the evidence someone in this chat station has found about zombies was fake.
April 26th, 2009 at 9:08 am
I forgot if there are so called “real zombies” then with the brain pic how could the zombie brain just plop out unless threre were two zombies wait he/she would be dead and not a zombie right? ps..im so stupid.
April 26th, 2009 at 11:24 pm
Who gave any of you the power to say what is and isn’t real? The way I see it, everything is still undetermined, and furthermore, still entirely open to possibility.
I hope it does happen one day.
I’m not a scientist, I don’t have a degree from harvard, but I don’t need to be a friggin rocket scientist to know that we know less than 50%, probably even less than 25% of all there is to know about this planet currently.
We spring up new diseases every day, and one of these days there very well could be a virus that reanimates dead tissue. Afterall we do now have a “Swine Flu” epidemic happening currently. What will tomorrow bring?
I will say this though. It’s hilarious watching some of you get so emotionally invested in this situation that you resort to swearing at each other.
Yes, I am spiting all of you, yes, your all stupid, and yes, I hate all of you.
Go to hell everyone!
May 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
zombies could be real, they might not.. we dont exactly know.. my opinion is that i think they do or did exist and the government is hiding it, just like they hide everything else..
the virus could come from “salt water” or “nuclear radiation” but we really dont know
May 30th, 2009 at 2:46 am
Zombie who or what created it? and what purposes does it fulfill it has no solid beginning so why should we talk about it since it has no simple ending cause it’s like a undone story and there is 100% no cure so meaning humanity is done for.
So if some one survive this outbreak he/she will still be infected in the near future unless he/she get’s immunity.
Like hell the survivor will get immunity
May 31st, 2009 at 9:33 pm
ok so i love how everyone is talking smack about this zombie guide written by a comedian. you think comedians are never serious? people follow stupid stuff all the time *cough*scientology*cough* so compared to other things how is this absolutely with no questions NOT real? and “man with a brain” who gives a shit if your at a college? do you want a fcking cookie? all i know is ill be prepared.
June 9th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
wow. k first of all, to jason, tone it down. If u had any intelligence, then you’d see the truth and stop knocking every one here. I live in canada, and i saw an out break. Police claimed it was “insanity”, and was a racial killing, but the victims had gunshot wounds to the head. 2 people were missing, and the search party were all police men, and were packing rifles, and i swear i saw a sub machine gun.
Oh and if u say, im BSing, then you should take into account that it happened on my street. No media were allowed to join the search party, or film them while searching, but were allowed to film when they came back. There were 2 bodies with their heads covered and transported to an unrevealed location.
And it werent no ambulence either. it had federal markings
June 17th, 2009 at 8:41 am
Quote: Max Brooks, the author of the zombie survival guide is a comedian. The guide is great, but completly fictional. By the way, that egyptian ‘decapitation stone’ is really the Narmer Palette. the pictures depict the unification of upper and lower egypt, not zombie execution. just letting the readers know that this is all bs.
Maybe they united because of a Zombie infestation…
June 20th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Well If you ask me nobody has actually seen a zombie if so they need hard evidence. If this actually happens show it to the media not the govenment they will just hide it. And plus its a negitive on your part to…. they’ll think your crazy do some actual reasurch. And I have seen The zombie survival Guide…. At the back about the true storys…. Wheres the evidence if somebody finds me evidence theen Ill belive…. Iv noticed each one of those storys were a class 1….
June 25th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
MY ROFLCOPTER GOES SOISOISOSISOISOISOISOSIOSISOI
Had to be done. I absolutey believe in a possible zombie outbreak! This particular article? Maybe, maybe not. But what is the Swine Flu? Its a mixture of the human flu, the bird flu, and obviously a sickness you get from pigs. So one could say that a hybrid virus is created by chance or purposefully.
BTW I’m writing a book about ZOMBIES!!!! A fictional story, trilogy, and my personal idea is it was created underground by scientists who were hired by?????? You’ll see…maybe lol.
June 29th, 2009 at 3:05 am
who cares if its real ora joke if they can say theres a tadbit a roo id atleast by a medical kit and rations maybe a gun i just wanna be safe if itss real than the eole that are ready will live an the eole that think its fakell just see an maybe survive lus when im older yes ima cchild and i understand this im goin to move to dc were im sure ill be safe seeing as the goverment would defend that of all laces of the virus if real i believe it may be real or not shoot me idc its justa oinion dont swear at eachother for haing there own oinion if they didnt alota thing swouldnt be here and why d u think the us goverments hiding this wen we can readabnout it on the internet so easily and wichb goverment do u mean they all wouldnt be hididng it lus hat russian story is true they have debree and evidence im not saying zombies attacked them im jus sayin that jail was bombed im glad if u read this all the way thru if u wanna talk to me about this or share ideas add me on ms or email me just no sam that ima lying asshole im not its the fools on the internet that u may think are lying to me Sasori_Akusan@hotmail.com
July 7th, 2009 at 9:08 pm
*sigh* Better get weapons, stuff to barricade with, and a nice cold beverage. *sigh*
July 19th, 2009 at 10:28 am
funny at all the people going overboard and swearing/having a go at each other with this… haha i laugh at you…
funny also that half of you are claiming this is right or wrong..
first off….. this is fictional.. its meant to make people laugh.
IE: a JOKE
secondly, the outbreaks described are true.. at least the records of them are not altered as far as anyone can tell, though there is no saying if it happened.. was bullshit.. or someone just had a few too many shrooms and freaked out.
personally i would welcome a zombie outbreak, need a good crisis to kick in some natural selection to get rid of all the idiots around these days. And besides… id welcome a change from the day to day monotomy of work.
Oh and tristan.. sorry but i didnt read what you said.. mainly because your ONE HUGE FUCKING SENTANCE HURT MY BRAIN!!! not to mention the spelling
Zombies are real.. at least the voodoo kind which arent violent unless they get spooked.. like an animal.
However if you look at the complexity of a virus you could see that this is entirely possible, especially looking at how a virus enters a cell and uses it to make more copies of itself, but people.. this would have to be one serious virus.. eliminating the bodies need for oxygen is bullshit, if a virus uses the bodies organs and muscles for its own purpose (to reproduce/infect others) then it needs to follow the laws of the host body, unless the virus mutated enough to infect other organs and supply them with energy to function.
It is possible in ONLY that way, meaning ONLY if we get a virus that is not a virus.. it would have to be sentient.. to comunicate and reason with itself… and work together instead of jsut being a strand of DNA and simply doing what it is programmed to do. Somehow i dont see that happening and in all definaition it would not technically be a virus.
Only possibility is similar to the Rage virus.. something that changes a persons mind only… still needing sustainance, oxygen etc… but no longer relying on reason or anything jsut pure aggression and a need to feed. Not saying i believe in movies.. but this is the only explanation for the outbreaks recorded. Not being able to stop them with ann arrow or cutting off a limb witha sword may jsut be because for soem reason they do not feel pain… meaning they would keep coming for you but it would be entirely possible for one of these zombies to “bleed out”
The one person i agree with is chester… a cold beverage would go down nicely. ^^
and yes im THAT bored to write this
July 26th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Tristan,Go back 2 school you stupid child.
I think they are real, and if you want to survive,I have 3 options. option 1:Dig a hole and live underground with 2 entrances, just incase if the zombies break through the 1st 1.so you have a quick and efficient route.bring food and set up rations, and gather weapons.Option 2:go to a supermarket,Food,weapons, and good defenses. Set up rations as well just incase if there is loads of people with you.stick to your rations,afterall you cant predict how long you will be down there.Option 3: Go to a pub,Like shaun of the dead.Rations,Weapons,alternative entrances will ensure you will survive.
Also These places need plenty of electricity.
Peace out dawgs
July 29th, 2009 at 6:35 pm
i got words for you: Dingbats, Crackpots, Drips, Screwballs, Dumbells, Half-wits, Morons, J.A’s i don’t mean Junior Achievers. what the Hell are you guys talking about and showing people you guys need to stay from the pipe, and the crackbag ok. And stop filling people head with nonsense, that don’t make sense to anyone okay. see ya.
July 29th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
i think they should stop fucking around with it or they will just make it stronger by natuaral selection and adaptations as all things on our planet do and will eventually become immune to any force we have
August 4th, 2009 at 8:46 am
even if they have immune to the virus they still be eaten =.= alive so anyway i wanted to stop talking about this cause there is no point and no direction to this
August 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pm
yo this shit is whack
September 7th, 2009 at 3:42 pm
I have the zombie survival guide. its pretty cool
September 9th, 2009 at 4:31 pm
Based on some of the comments above, I think at LEAST 25% of the population must actually be insane. Certifiably crazy. No understanding of the reality they live in.
It’s called FICTION people. Zombies are FICTION. And you all are retarded, seriously.
September 10th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
this is absolutely crazy this is definitely going to happen. i have a plan ill be ready.
September 16th, 2009 at 5:19 pm
First off many of you are right n wrong n goffen off.
Seconed the canadian talked n no one responded to his posible clame. His story interested me but he should have used a camera or somthing.
Third it might not be a Virus but it could be a parasite. Ther is a virus or parasite cant remember but it infects an ant or snale also cant remember but then it take controle of the primitive brain and forces it to go to the top of grass then get eaten by a rabit then the rabits droppings are eaten by sed animals and the proses starts over.
4th who care if its real or not, be ready for the unknown and dont dismiss zombies becouse of the Z.S.G. and anoying kid you dont know the US gov at all.
Also what if the govs are some of you? haha.
last but not least aim for the head.
September 22nd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
I don’t think it’s necessarily a good idea to dismiss all of this as nonsense. Over the summer I discovered the following news article, and if this doesn’t sound like infection and reanimation then I don’t know what does.
In a bizarre parasitic death sentence, a fungus turns carpenter ants into the walking dead and gets them to die in a spot that’s perfect for the fungus to grow and reproduce.
Scientists have no clue how the fungus takes control of the brains of ants so effectively. But a new study in the September issue of the American Naturalist reveals an incredible set of strategies that ensue.
The carpenter ants nest high in the canopy of a forest in Thailand, and they trek to the forest floor to forage. The fungus, Ophiocordyceps unilateralis, prefers to end up on the undersides leaves sprouting from the northwest side of plants that grow on the forest floor, the new study showed. That’s where temperature, humidity and sunlight are ideal for the fungus to grow and reproduce and infect more ants.
Once infected by the fungus, an ant is compelled to climb down from the canopy to the low leaves, where it clamps down with its mandibles just before it dies.
“The fungus accurately manipulates the infected ants into dying where the parasite prefers to be, by making the ants travel a long way during the last hours of their lives,” said study leader David P. Hughes of Harvard University.
After the ant dies, the fungus continues to grow inside it. By dissecting victims, Hughes and colleagues found that the parasite converts the ant’s innards into sugars that help the fungus grow. But it leaves the muscles controlling the mandibles intact to make sure the ant keeps its death grip on the leaf.
The fungus also preserves the ant’s outer shell, growing into cracks and crevices to reinforce weak spots, thereby fashioning a protective coating that keeps microbes and other fungi out.
“The fungus has evolved a suite of novel strategies to retain possession of its precious resource,” Hughes said.
After a week or two, spores from the fungus fall to the forest floor, where other ants can be infected.
Making nests in the forest canopy might be an evolved ant strategy to avoid infection, Hughes figures. The ants also seem to avoid foraging under infected areas. This too might be an adaptive strategy to avoid infection, but more study is needed to confirm it, he said.
How the fungus controls ant behavior remains unknown. “That is another research area we are actively pursuing right now,” Hughes said.
September 29th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
I was actually just thinking about the carpenter ants myself and how that may be an alternative to the “sentient” virus that someone had mentioned. Currently it is unlikely there is a virus that makes people into the stereotypical movie zombies with the moaning and what not and if you believe those are the zombies we will see if a solanum type virus does occur you are gravely mistaken. in all likelihood the “virus” would be created in a lab perhaps on accident or perhaps by someone who is bent on causing mass destruction of human life and would also probably not be a virus at all but rather perhaps something along the lines of a fungus, bacteria, parasite, or even nanotechnology (and it is quite possible we will have plausible access to nanotechnology within the next 20 years) Other than that the closest thing we have to “zombies” are the people who are drugged and work in a trance-like state with all the capabilities of a normal human being save for an ability to have independent thought (hence why they can do little more than follow orders) all I can say is if worse comes to worse and a zombie outbreak does occur your better of completely destroying the body as a head shot to a “fungal zombie” wouldn’t do much.
September 29th, 2009 at 5:15 pm
This is not a dease it is a virus and it causes deformation in the brain ,witch causes all human relation to change barbaric,unfamilaiir,and there is no real cure besides amputation at the injection sight ,all forms of human behavior is erealivent.no one has seen a sign of this virus in a while,since acient times ,some believe as the mians predicted would be the end of the world in 2012,more comminly know as a zombie attack
-piper and david,the zombie experts
September 29th, 2009 at 5:17 pm
p.s. sorry for the misspelling
September 29th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
your talking about zombies not ANTS for the people above sorry common scence
September 30th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
if you have any questions about zombies just leave a comment i check every day (solanum to)
October 10th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
If this is true, think of the good implications. A disaster like this will finally bring all humans together against a common enemy. If it isn’t, it still stands, we all know we would need each other in order to survive. This promotes trust for your fellow human, in the end, we know we must meet our fate together. Unity is the real lesson. Regard me, disregard me, its your choice.
October 19th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
You guys this all makes since to me.
Humans are a species like any other. The only difference is that we are highly advanced. An apex predator, as some could say. As an example: Mountain lions, another predator, are preyed on by each other (for humans: criminals); other predators (humans: wild animals); and disease, which is the missing piece of the puzzle for humankind. Solanum, uncurable and deadly, could be that missing piece of the population control puzzle.
It could very well be real. I believe in it 100%, and I just really don’t care if you doubters think I’m nuts. I’ve heard it to the point where you can all just kiss my ass. Just don’t go shambling to me as an undead monster, I will blow your brains out.
October 28th, 2009 at 4:55 pm
I am not so sure if I believe in this virus I have heard about it fom many many people but still i dont really think that we will have a outbreak of it anytime soon….