National Treasure 3: Page 47 – Production talks have begun for installment 3 of the movie franchise National Treasure, based on the President asking Ben Gates “What’s on page 47?” as he looks at the Book of Secrets.
The cryptic reference in National Treasure 2 to page 47 in the President’s “Book of Secrets” came about from a bit of script improvisation from the movie’s star, Nicholas Cage.
“The way we left the movie, the President asked Ben, ‘What’s on page 47?’” Cage said. “I wanted to figure out what I could say that would really make people interested in what’s on page 47 without saying it, so I thought of the words ‘life altering.’ Whatever it is, it’s going to have to be life-altering.”
Nicholas Cage, Jerry Bruckheimer and Jon Turteltaub press interview:
Director Jon Turteltaub was asked in the press interview “Have you written yourself in the corner with this page 47?”
Turteltaub’s response is that the page 47 idea isn’t set in stone as the basis for National Treasure 3.
“We can always tell people that’s the fourth movie,” he said. “That doesn’t work. I’ve actually seen movies that seem like they’re setting up for the sequel and that wasn’t the sequel.”
Producer Jerry Bruckheimer said that the writers strike has slowed script development on National Treasure 3.
“The writers might know, but I don’t know,” he said in answer to a question about the mysterious page 47. “And they’re not going to tell me now because they’re on strike.”
In an interview, star Nicholas Cage expanded on his view that National Treasure 3 should be more like “International Treasure” than another US-based thriller.
“I believe that it should become more and more International Treasure,” he said. “I was very happy to see that we went to London, England and Paris, France, but I’d like to see the movie go wider still. I’d like to go into Africa, Egypt, Asia, and keep going. My hope is that Ben is recruited and he gets a dossier from these other countries about their history, and has to download it and learn it, and then try to go on these hunts on their behalf. That would be a lot of fun for me.”
And that’s the latest news on National Treasure 3: Page 47.
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December 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
i really enjoyed the first and second i think there should be one more and then end it to go on futher would be redundant and people would eventually stop going to see them. And by the way did the character mitch really die or should we expect him in the new one. i hope you do start filming the third one i know you have many people hooked as well fascinated
December 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Loved it
http://www.myspace.com/whatsonpage47
December 24th, 2007 at 12:07 am
I’d say without a doubt that the character mitch is dead since he was shown drowning in the chamber.
We may be on strike and will say that any indication to a third movie we’ll leave to speculation.
December 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
i LOVED the first 2 movies ever since i saw the second movie i cant stop watching the 1st. and i think i found out what was on page 47, if U listened carefully on the conversation with mitch and ben (the part where ben was waiting for mitch to come with his mom) ben finishes his mom’s sentence and says “-had the letter written by queen victoria passed down from generations.” mitch retorts “How do you know?” ben says “i read it in a book.”
They have to have 3rd movie. if they dont i’ll kill them!
P.S. i think that they should have left ben behind when only one person could hold the door up. and maybe if he were left behind then you know he would have escaped somehow or resqued or maybe they show a scene where you think he’s dead when he’s not and then show Ian breaking out of jail like pirates!
December 24th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
i think the movie was really well done and i hope that when they do decide to do a part 3 that they do write in about page 47.i know i left the movies asking what the hell is on page 47. Could it be the lost city of atlantis, could it be the holy grail, or el dorado. im pretty sure what ever they come with, you can count on me buying a ticket to see it.
December 24th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
National Treasure 2 rocked! Thought it was much better than the first one in terms of action sequences.
Don’t think we’ll really find out what’s on page 47 until they write the new script…
December 25th, 2007 at 2:55 am
I think the page. 47 is gonna be about World World II.
at the end of the movei when Cage said “Life-altering”. It gives me clues and when asked in the interview she said He wants to go international maybe hes referrin to Asia or soemthing.
December 25th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
I Enjoyed this movie so much. The two sure have entertained our family. When the movie was over, my husband asked,
did I miss something about page 47, what was on that? I suddenly realized after all the action and adventure that question was never answered. I look forward to number
3. May the writers in the writer’s strike
come to a resolution soon!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:43 am
In response to J.S. Heart…“How do you know?” ben says “i read it in a book.”
This was in response to Riley’s book “The Templar Treasure” in which the clues needed for this hunt’s success hinged.
Anyone thought of the 3rd movie being the hunt for the fountain of youth? After all Ben did say it was “life altering” and Ponce De Leon was in search of the fountain of youth in 1513.
December 26th, 2007 at 1:00 am
i think page 47 has to deal with the fountain of youth
December 27th, 2007 at 2:03 am
I think we need to reexamine the idea of Gates finding the remains (or still thriving) colony of Roanoke island. Maybe the colony of people are still alive, living like the Amish are in an area cut off to the world. Maybe thats bringing fantasy too much into the picture. However, I still think that it would fit chronologically. From the look of the size of the book, we can estimate that it is 200-300 pages, depending on how much stuff (photos, maps, etc) were placed into the book. Page 47 was flipped BACK to when Gates found it to take the picture. This means it it before The Lincoln Assignation and therefore Roanoke is still a possibility. However, America didn’t have a president at the time of Roanoke, BUT that doesn’t mean that its secret didn’t lie with someone….like a stone mason???……
I also agree that the idea that NT3 has to do with another great war. And I do want to reinforce the idea that this is an AMERICAN treasure. Therefore I feel Atlantis, Locke Ness Monster, are out. I agree that the Hoover Dam is out b/c of Transformers and that The Fountain of Youth is too mystical and was used in too many movies. I don’t see the director taking that angle. I do find it interesting that the Fountain of Youth was thought of as the 3rd treasure of the United States someone stated, but I can’t find much information on where that it mentioned on the net. Anyone else want to entertain some ideas. All in all, I think the best bet is to watch out for the disappearance of the Roanoke Island colony in NT3.
December 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am
this is rly amazing! a third one, WOW, thats awesome! i just saw the 2nd one for the 2nd time today and just as great as the 1st! rite now as i type i am watching the 1st one as i type! i also watched it yesterday! i rly cant wait wait for the next one to cum out! URG! im sooooooo angry at the writers strike! all my favorite shows arent playing and the 3rd treasure is on hold! its so dumb! get over watever they are whyning about and write the dang movie! anyway im excited!
December 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
The second one rocked, but it bothered me that they didn’t say what was on page 47. I have no clue what’s on it, and it really bothers me not knowing. I think it would be cool for it to be Roanoke, but I doubt that that’s it. I really want to know. I hate the writers’ strike!
December 29th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
If you do a google seach on Page 47, the first entry is about a manuscript, where page 47 is blank. Maybe there is not NT3
December 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Maybe Area 51? I don’t think so but they mentioned it. Overall Great Movies!!!!!! They are my favorites of all time!!!!!! Does anyone know what the writers strike is about?
December 29th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
I just got done watching national treasure 2 and I just wanted to say that it was just as good as the first if not better. I think that the strike thing of national treasure 3 is really stupid. please just writing produce the next movie because these movies are the best.
December 30th, 2007 at 12:39 am
In response to J. S. Heart and Jared. I believe that when Ben references “the book” he means the President’s Book. It was there that he read about Queen Victoria and General Pike when he found the picture of the carvings.
As for the next movie, I hope that whatever the story line may be it remains based upon US history. As we get older we tend to forget about the events and places that made this country so great! These movies get us interested in the people and places of the past…I wish they were around when I was learning US History!
December 30th, 2007 at 1:13 am
How mundane..the story begins in 1865 concerning a ciphered message whichis found to be dated 1876!! How is this possible, I want my money back from this very poor attempt at what could have been a much better movie.
December 30th, 2007 at 2:37 am
Did anyone else catch when Ben said to Mitch that Mitch “needed” to find the treasure. Like Ben knew something about Mitch that no one else knew?
That was right after he made the comment about reading about the letter in Riley’s book.
“You need the treasure. I know you do.”
And then all of a sudden, Mitch changes his mind about not taking the guns or the guards?
Might THAT have anything to do with page 47?
Or do you think the entire Mitch thing is over and done with since he died?
~ALison
December 30th, 2007 at 3:52 am
“dear diary,
i have a crush on benjamin gates.”
- page 47
December 30th, 2007 at 4:09 am
My husband has some theory about the 47 ammendment having to do with Taxes, supposidly tax-free donations/gifts to the gov’t. Thats why Riley got the note at the end that said “Tax Free”. but I’m with most of you, it has to be a real “AMerican Treasure” The fountain of Youth would fit that but like some else said that might be getting a little too mythical hoaky for this. Maybe it is some treasure from the west but the west is too new and would not have all the detailed history that these movies go off from to be an American Treasure. Maybe it will be a treasure from Columbus or even Vikings time. Im not a history major but that would fit more in the treasure hunt scheme of things since the treasure is always an ancient treasure that some American organization has been hiding for centuries.
December 30th, 2007 at 4:10 am
I think page 47 has nothing to do with wonders like Area 51 because if it was something like that the president already would know about it. It intrigued me because if it has stirred the curiosity of the president of the united states it has to be something that not even the government or its resources know. Just think as the president you have access to all the files the government has produced and if he still cant figure it out, it must be “life altering” as either Gates or the president said. Also, the president said he went to school to become an architect so i figure out of all the mysteries in the presidents book he would mention, he would have chosen something that would have been appealing to him. or maybe im just being to analytical. great movies though
December 30th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
MITCH’S BODY WASNEVER FOUND. MAYBE THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY OUT ONCE THE CHAMBER FILLED WITH WATER AND HE GOT OUT. ALSO MAYBE THEY WILL BRING SEAN BEAN’S CHARACTER BACK FROM THE FIRST MOVIE, HE SHOULD BE OUT OF PRISON BY NOW.
December 30th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
WHICH IS WORSE, STEALING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OR KIDNAPPING THE PRESIDENT?
December 30th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
i think page 47 has somethhing to do with area 51. i thought i saw a 51 on the page when he took the pic with his cell phone.
December 30th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I dont think the number 47 is a clue in itself. Its just the page number. If you look at the size of the book when he opens it, it looks to be 200-300 pages long. It would be logical to assume presidents put things in the book chronologically, not picking a page that matched what they were putting in. Thus page 47 is not a clue. However if you do the math and assume all presidents put about the same number of pages in on average, page 47 would be about 35-55 years after the origin of the book. Again assuming that Washington started the book, that would make page 47’s entry somewhere between 1825-1845. There were 10 presidents during that time: Adams, Jackson, VanBuren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Fillmore, Pierce and Buchanan. That eliminates any Area 51, Hoover dam ideas
December 30th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Did anyone else see a similarity with Mitch. His full name was Mitch Wilkinson. The guy who assassinated Lincoln was John Wilkes Booth. Mitch was looking to give something to his family’s name as well. But he had a lot of clues and artifacts from his family that just any historian would have found it hard to come by. I think there is much more behind Ben’s lines of ,”You need the treasure. I know you do.”
Also as far as the Queen reference and wondering if that had anything to do with page 47. When Ben refers to the fact he read it in a book I don’t think that was a reference to page 47. That was just the same information Mitch had in his letter. It was read on the same page as the pitcure of the wooden scripture from the desk stating of how the desks came to be and where and why the clues were hidden in them
December 30th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
I really do not think that page 47 contains information about the fountain of youth because that is supposed to be the theme of the fourth pirates of the caribbean movie. I doubt Disney is hurting that bad with writers to use the same theme for current franchises. I am really interested to see where this goes. enjoyed the movie!!
December 30th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
I don’t mind having this be the next Indiana Jones, but I wish that the crappy sappy dialog would quit. Nick Cage should be single and should drop the girlfriend completely. It was a good movie, it makes me want to know history better, which is what this country needs. I hope it doesn’t go international, like Nick Cage wants, because that would allow for less authentic history. And maybe even more manipulation of historical facts, and I like to know that there is some truth to the story.
December 31st, 2007 at 8:30 am
When Nic Gage says “I’d Like to see this be more INTERNATIONAL Treasure…” thats all the clue you need. being the Star of the the Movies, and the “script minipulator” of NT2. I think He would have a lil inside info.
I personally think It has something to due with Egypt.
there are still a lot of unfound stuff in Egypt. or maybe a Mythical peace of treasure that the Nazi’s are rumored to have stolen In WWII.
anyway this is out of a encyclopedia.
“The British cabinet in 1800 was forced to make a strategic gamble in sending an expeditionary force to Egypt as a means of undermining French expansionism. Napoleonic victories on the continent of Europe had left Britain with little choice but to confront the French military abroad. The conflict in Egypt gave British naval forces the opportunity to strike at the French and prevent their anticipated advance on British-held India. The costliness of the war and the failure to achieve victory … “
December 31st, 2007 at 10:18 am
oh and also… the president says He studied architecture at “Yale” so page 47 has to be something of interest to him right?
Read about The 47th Problem Of Euclid which is also teachings to Masons. or a “Masonic teaching”
December 31st, 2007 at 11:40 am
page 47—Rambaldi
December 31st, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Now when the President suggested Gates read Page 47. I was under the impression that he knew what it referenced and felt that Gates should be privileged to know it as well. Assuming that it was either something crucial that he needed to know about for survival sake like a ,doomsday scenario or something relevant that only Gates could give special insight too. like something much more important than a city of gold. Like another spin on the founders of the U.S.
Regardless of what page 47 might refer too. Do we agree that the President(since it was his book to hide) wanted to include Gates in this special secret only nterested in what Gates take on the mystery was?
January 1st, 2008 at 1:45 am
Having just viewed NT2, I am looking fwd to NT3. Page 47 is in the presidents book of secrets. This may be nation or international. Since Area 51, City of Atlantis, Foution of Youth have all been discussed. Here are a few that have not been mentioned. Illuminati refers to an elite set of enlightened individuals a secret set of individuals who run the country. Or Noah’s ark found with dinosaurs onboard.
January 1st, 2008 at 2:01 am
In National Treasure: Book of Secrets, Nicolas Cage’s character Ben Gates is after the President of the United States’ book of secrets, an unofficial book which contains the answers for the biggest coverups in American history.
In addition to his mission to restore his family’s name, Gates is advised by the President of the United States to “read Page 47”.
And of course, the information which is contained on Page 47 is never revealed, setting up a possible third film.
Someone posed the question to director Jon Turteltaub at the film’s press day, and here is his answer:
“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.”
Now that’s funny!
January 1st, 2008 at 11:34 am
I don’t think it has to do with any of the things people just said. Didn’t anyone notice that National Treasure 1 and 2 was fictional?
Map on Declaration or Treasure under Trinity Church? not real.
Treasure in Mount Rushmore? not real.
You can’t find a solution to like the Roanoke mystery or watever. Today it is still a mystery so you can’t make a fake solution.
It could be plain anything. The possibilities are endless.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:36 am
Also to add to my other comment
Book of Secrets? most likely unreal.
But definatly the things in the book were real.
JFK and Area 51? Its one of the biggest conspiracy theories there are!
January 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
“Map on Declaration or Treasure under Trinity Church? not real.
Treasure in Mount Rushmore? not real.”
lol How do you know? have you looked on the back of the Declaration? or done sonar ground probes over Mt Rushmore?
there is a 99.999999999999999999999999% chance they are NOT real. but it is not PROVEN otherwise. Yet.
as for the Book of secrets…. Hmmm probably not just one Book… Say, the WHOLE CIA “EYE’s ONLY” Archives =D.
That is definitely real!
January 1st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I think that leaving the page 47 answer out causes me to leave the next film (if there is to be one) out of my list of movies to go to.
hellooo writers or editors.. either wrap everything up in the same movie of leave it on the cutting room floor.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I love the National Treasure movies!I watched the 1st movie twice already since i’ve seen the 2nd. I’m just a teenager…but I’m trying to figure out the plot of the third movie…I believe that the President already saw what was on page 47 because all the President’s look at the president’s book. I think that he told Ben about it so that he could look at it and analyse the meaning of it. I have no idea what the plot of the 3rd movie could be though. If it does go international i think that treasure might be in Egypt?I don’t think that it would be the Fountain of Youth because that would be the plot for the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie…I don’t think Jerry would do the same for National Treasure
January 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
PS. I also think that Thomas Cage is the perfect person to play the role of Ben Gates along with Justin Bartha playing Riley…i also like the relationship between Ben and Abigail in the 2nd movie.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Being the star of the movies, you are all off track. Yes, the fountian of youth will be part of the fourth pirates movie, and it is in production already!! Even though the writers are on strike they are close to an agreement and one got in touch with me. They are leaning towards a theme that intertwinds with another United States Treasure and an International phenomenom something linvolving Stonehenge.
January 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 am
My famly and I thoroughly enjoyed NT2. We can’t wait for NT3.
We speculated tath page p 47 has to do with either the Fountain of Youth, atlantis or perhaps connected to the Bermuda Triangle.
January 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 am
You stupidly said: “I don’t think that it would be the Fountain of Youth because that would be the plot for the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie”
That scene was a maguffin. If there is a 4th which is not all that likely based on some of the statments made since last summer what it will be about is rather obvious if you’re not brain dead.
January 2nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I think the fact that the president asks ben to take a look @ pg 47 is significant it must be important to the president to have the mystery resolved. also why ask ben with all the resources the president has available he asks ben to help him? Out of all of the mysteries why this particular page out of 200ish in the book of secrets. It must be significant to the president and not just any random mystery such as the fountain of youth although i’m sure most people would want to live forever.
January 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
abegail kindly think before you bore us with your verbal abuse about the writers strike!!!!!!
The reason that us writers are whyning as you put it is that we have had enough of being ripped off by the movie companies, we should not only just be paid a fair wage for our work but we should also get paid royalties for this as well, as all artists do in their business. we are also being supported by all manner of artists, actors and directors etc as they all know that we have been treated unfairly and deserve a break and kindly also remember before you go verbally bashing us that we are the guys and gals that write the stories so that you can go to the movies and watch enjoyable films such as National Treasure 2. Its also very plainly clear by the diction in your writing that not only have you not the faintest idea what your talking about but you lack the maturity to think before you write.
Im sure what ever it is thats on page 47 will have you all sitting on the edge of your seats and gasping with excitement when you see it, its good to see that so many people are interested in finding out, it means that us lowly writers are doing our jobs right.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Right on Darrell. I completely agree with you. Being a musician for 30+ years, I concur with you about royalties and such. Some people should do a little research about things they don’t know anything about, before blurting out and flaming the writers. Speaking of flaming, I don’t know who this “dan hooker” is, but I think he’s all gopped up on goop! I think you would have had to been comatose in your seat not to enjoy the movie, but that’s just me. Confederate treasure? Who knows… What I thought was funny was the French policemen being so nice to the americans. I just returned from europe, and they were by far the rudest country I have ever had the sorriest displeasure to meet! Take a bath guys!
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I am surprised that no one has made a comment about Milo Rambaldi, page 47, it was his favorite number… and full of intriguing possibilities.. althoughm since J.J Abrams is not involved, probably a pretty far stretch…
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 am
Yes the Prez would’ve certainly known what was on page 47, and wouldn’t likely have asked Gates to check it out unless he couldn’t figure it out himself.. implying he was really asking Gates for help, so it must be something really cryptic that only a treasure-hunter like Gates might be able to cipher OR the subject matter is so sensitive / “out there” the Prez can ill afford to engage all of his infinite resources to research it.
Which leads us to, what major mystery in American history would be recorded that early in the Book Of Secrets to so interest the Prez or possibly be covered by an Architecture major @ Yale, and cause Gates to describe it as “life-altering”.. couldn’t be the Fountain of Youth, that’s not a treasure per se and I doubt they’d a) make two movies along the same plot line or b) have Nick Cage drinking himself back to his youth anyway.
So what could be so life-altering, possibly something religious? We’ve already gone Holy Grail-ing with Raiders, and they would NOT attempt to plagarize the scurrilous DaVinci code plotline. so what’s left other than the Shroud of Turin or something to that effect?
Maybe page 47 is merely something as basic as the search for the true origin of our country’s foundation, the world’s first free democracy founded upon centuries of tried-and-failed government strategies.. maybe the real history behind the free masons that built our country, possibly as a contrast to the whispered Illuminati / NWO agendas of the late 18th / early 19th centuries? Ultimately perhaps knighting the Gates family with “hero” status for their contributions over the past couple of hundred years? This would certainly explain Nick Cage’s “life-altering” comment (life-altering for him that is).. however he’d probably not get that just from some brief verbiage on a single page of handwritten text.
So where to then? Lots of folks are talking up Area 51 and some sort of interstellar adventure, but they’re not going to turn Part Three into a sci-fi epic.. “International Treasure” is my guess!
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 am
Since he said page 47 is “life-altering” maybe it has to do with the secret of evolution. Just somethin to think about
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I love the 1 and 2 national treasure and can’t wait tell the 3!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
i love when movies leave cliff hangers and questions about the movie like national treasure 2….. tells us that page 47 is a clue not only to the 3rd but also a 4th national treasure…
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I totally agree with the writers strike!I think they deserve a fair wage for their work because not just anyone could write such exciting movies like they do!I also think Nicolas is such a good actor for these movies!I really like him!=]I’m just really hoping that the third NT is going to be really exciting!
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I love both Movies. I really think that the third should consist of pwhat they said on page 47 in the secod movie, for gate to be able to work along side with the President.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
mshay…
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who saw that. It did seem like Mitch and Ben were hinting that Mitch’s family needed to reclaim their honor somehow. That’s why Mitch was so insistent that he be remembered for finding the treasure.
I think that Mitch Wilkinson, was a descendant of John WILKES Booth. Which is why he said he “needed to find the treasure” for his family’s “honor.”
I hope this issue is revisted in NT3. They really didn’t explain it fully in NT2.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Hey Dab Dabney why dont you shut your mouth and suck a fat dick!!!
January 4th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Hey Dab Dabney shut your gay mouth!!
January 4th, 2008 at 5:36 am
It’s pretty obvious where page 47 is headed:
1) The president was an architecture major – this was the single most intriguing thing in the book to him
2) They want to take NT3 international – Cage specifically said Egypt, Asia and Africa
3) What is the “oldest” mystery on earth?
It has got to be the Pyramids – they are nothing but mysteries, empty chambers, signs and clues that point to the heavens. This thing is going to point to aliens or somehow life-altering scenario for planet earth – all the early presidents would have known about the pyramids and obviously we have one on the $1 bill…. You heard it hear first.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Wow!! The 2nd one was amazing! A lot of movies can’t live up to their original! This one totally did! To respond to people’s comments, the page 47 would not be about queen victoria’s letter! Ben said, “I read it in a book” because he saw the letter glancing through the presidents book, not Rileys book. Why would he say that he was the only one to see and then burn it if it was in rileys book. This letter from the queen pertained to this movie…it would not be brought back. The letter gave them clues to finding the enterence to the city of gold. It is not page 47. This is something totally different but I don’t think it is internaitonal. Just because Cage wants it to be doesn’t mean he is giving you a clue. And the end of the 2nd i dont even think they knew what they were going to put on page 47. They are probabaly doing that now. But I dont think they will end up having it international because honestly Americans know more about our own history and if they opened up another countires history like Africa it would be knew and not as exciting. I mean we learn about these things in history and for someone to put a new twist on a old story that we thought was lost is amazing. IT would not be as cool if it was something we ere not familiar with because we haven’t had time to think about it. Other people’s comments about Roanke is good and possible. I would love to see it about an unanswered mystery in history. THE ONLY THING I was dissapointed at was something I thought for sure they were going to include! In the first movie at the end Riley is upset because he didnt get a huge portion of the treasure and Ben said that he promised the next time they found another treasure that would change history Riley could be in charge…I was waititng for them to mention it in the 2nd. Like him to be like , ” remeber that promise”? I would have laughed but they didnt. O well, still a great movie cant wait for the next!
January 4th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
area 51 took place during 1947, possibly showing the relevance of pg 47
January 5th, 2008 at 4:47 am
i just saw nt2 and i think there should be a nt3! i think it st should have to do with page 47 and noa’s ark. i realy,realy think that they should make a 3!
January 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am
I think that since both ben and the president said that both there favorite president was lincoln that it has something to do with that. 47 (4 scores and seven years ago) or how about 4 being the fourth day and 7 being the seventh month independence day july 4th! maybe about the gettysburg address. you heard it here first. and i also think that mitch has some relation to john wilks booth.
January 5th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Jesus, Do people not read the other comments before posting their own? or do they pretend that they didnt see it. uhh and stop writing “you heard it here first”. someone else wrote it above you FIRST.
jg: read comment 30-31. Euclids 47th problem, which is a Freemasons Teaching is a Triangle also.
again the president says He studied architecture at “Yale” so page 47 has to be something of interest to him right?
the 47th problem of Euclid is used while building any structure or ARCHITECTURE
read about the 47th Problem of Euclid.
you heard it on comment 30-31 first! LOL!
just say “i Agree” or something… instead of wasting your time and our time re-typing something someone already said.
January 5th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
not the real Nick Cage, the poser from post #42. First, the real Nick Cage has discussed page 47, on slashfilm.com. Second, the real Nick Cage would not be using such horrendous grammar, such as the capitalization of the words “treasure” and “international”. Grow up and get a life, loser.
January 6th, 2008 at 2:56 am
NT3 = Oak Island
January 6th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I watched NT2 last night and was curious as to what “page 47″ was or maybe if I had missed something. I’ve since noticed that there is MUCH speculation about the signifigance (if any) of the number 47.
I’ve read the comments on this page and some others and after doing some short research, came to some conclusions.
There are alot of people who have looked at “47″ as 1947, having to do with area 51… Is it not possible that “47″ is refering to 1847?
1847 was before the civil war, which would follow along with why Gates had to turn the pages backwards in the book of secrets.
Also, this must be something, as it has been said, that “47″ is particularly interesting to the President (who went to Yale)
Let’s look at what happened in 1847…
- The gold rush was taking place…
gold is obviously a treasure (however, gold was covered in NT2).
People have said that they would like to see the movie “go west” which fits with the gold rush.
-In 1847 Yale olpened what became known as Sheffield School (with major emphasis on chemistry and mineralogy)
-Scientists organized professional society… The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).
-The United States issued its first postal stamp.
-James K. Polk was President and his 25 volume diary (the first attempt of a president to keep a daily log of his presidency) currently sits in the Library of Congress.
-America was on the verge of the Mexican/American War.
-Thomas Edison was born.
Also…if the writers decide to do an “International Treasure”, 1747 could be a significant year…
There is a “lost treasure of Afghanistan”
-The treasure originates from Mughal India. Durrani was a general in the service of the Persian emperor who sacked Delhi in 1739. Having forced the treasury open and loaded its contents onto a vast caravan, the emperor was assassinated. Durrani took control of the caravan and led it to Afghanistan, where he was crowned king in 1747. Amongst the treasure was the Kohinoor diamond, a stone which now sits in the crown jewels at the Tower of London, but the rest remains hidden.
January 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
There are many many directions (with this information) in which the writers of NT3 could go… Each of them, if covered correctly, would be very interesting!
However, I could be wrong.
Some of the sites that I got this information from (for implied copyrights and avoiding plagerisms and the such)…
http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/search-for-the-lost-treasure-of-afghanistan/search-for-the-lost-treasure-of-afghanistan-tuesday-august-21
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jp11.html
also…
various google.com searches
any comments, feel free to post here or e-mail me personally at ntideas@hotmail.com (an account i set up for this)
January 6th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Does anyone know how the President could have gotten the “Book” into the Library of Congress? Was the secret compartment already there?
January 6th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
My husband and I think that page 47 revealed how to work the toilet in the Lincoln bedroom.
January 6th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
The deciphered code would be something like, “Jiggle the handle.”
January 7th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I think p47 might refer to the ancient hall of records. There is a story that says when Atlantis was doomed in 10000 b.c. they split their records to two places…one under the right paw of the sphinx and the other in Peru.
If NT3 does go “international” I can imagine it would be along these lines.
If it stays within the States…possibly could be the movement of these records to the US and placing them in the west. There is also another legend that a tunnel underground was found in the grand canyon back in the early 1800s with artifacts that should not have been there.
To me, personally, that would make a very “life altering” discovery because who knows what those records may hold…
January 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I really enjoyed the 1st and 2nd! I will be SUPER ecstatic to see a 3rd installment. I really hope its about pg. 47, after I saw the 2nd one, my mind is so boggled as to what could be on that page. Love Nicholas Cage, Justin Bartha, and of course the ever so lovely Diane Kruger!
January 7th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I am sorry if someone else has said this before me but i didn’t read all the way through to prove my theory. Before it said it had to be life altering. well why not go with a nuclear war head left somewhere and they have only a single clue to find it and within that path of clues they find out it will go off when the sun hits it on the rise of a full moon somehow linked to a certain year. Now it is up to them to figure out what clues and how to link them but i think that would be a pretty cool way to end it. but since it is a treasure story…. i guess the wouldn’t work… but i like the whole sun on the lunar moon sort of idea…..
January 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
how can i have missed it… yes like sam said Euclid’s 47th problem…. a triangle…. Burmuda triangle…. he said he wanted to travel… so didn’t the spanish lose millions of gallions down there???? well that could be the treasure. and the bermuda triangle could be the obstacle. as you probably well know that well. anyone who goes there never comes out alive…. like that one lady. the first lady to fly who flew there and never came out alive… couldn’t they connect them… well they are hollywood….
January 7th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Rockstar, the $500 billion dallor treasure seems more in keeping with the previous senarios.. although, the bermuda trianle (and other like triangles) is appealing…
I would love to something about the the Oak Island mystery, and the treasure there too….
January 7th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Parts 1 and 2 are great, and I believe that part 3 should be about page 47.
Making a part 3, and even a part 4 would be awesome!
January 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I heard that the 3ed national treasure was going to be about fort knox. I heard about it when I was waching the history channel and they where talking about fort knox.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Maybe something based on another famous buried treasure mystery with the clues contained in the Beale Cipher.
Part one of the three Beale ciphers about where the treasure was buried in Virginia back in 1820 was decoded using numbered words in the Constitution as the key…
January 8th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
NT3 will deal with the secret surrender of the war of 1812. We didn’t win. Page 47 has the clue to finding the “deed” to all land described as “The United States of England”. It must be found by a colonist or decendent of a colonist otherwise the US reverts back to being a British colony.
So, does that qualify as both “life altering” and consistant with the Gate Family?
January 9th, 2008 at 2:05 am
I guess page 47 will tell who is the antichrist, who is soon to be revealed by the brotherhood (Freemasonry).
or it could be the 3rd world war that they are planning.
January 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I think that “The Steven” has the best therory yet. I was thinking along the same lines but I thought that it might have something to do with another predient turning the company over to british power that the American people were unare of.
January 10th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Page 47,….? Was this a blank page with only a time and place written on it? Written back, let’s say in the 1700’s was only the numbers 9.11 and New York on that page. But,..on the very bottom of page was an exact date of
09.11.2008!!
January 11th, 2008 at 1:00 am
They have to shoot National Treasure III in the Philippines where “YAMASHITA TREASURE” is hidden. It is a myth that most Filipinos are up to know believe. This was said to be buried since WWII, Japanese Occupation. Just a suggestion!:) Wont hurt!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:27 am
YAMASHITA TREASURE it has been found its in the marcoses… they hide in their swiss bank account… hey eyjey ur filo right….
January 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
First of all, the part where Ben talks to mitch, when his mom was captured on the stairs at mount rushmore. Ben finishes the sentence, because he read about it in the book, yes. but that was the part riley noticed, he said something like “the queen was with the confederates”
Second, page 47 must be something way further back then WW2, since the book was atleast 150pages. so WW2 secrets would be at about 130 I guess..
The writers must have thought about which page they would choose.. not just random..
those are my thought.. dont have any ideas about what it could be.. things will be different anyway:P they always are..
Loved the movie! keep it comin.. and I agree with cage.. international treasure!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
yay i love national treasure… i hope there is a 3rd movie !!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:04 am
David Joshua:
I am a Mason. You are an Idiot.
Did you even see NT1 or NT2?
You _must_ be thinking of the “Left Behind” movies.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:44 am
wow!this is so great…and imagine there are many people that talk bout the PAGE47…i really dont have the idea…coz i dnt know much about american history..but going “INTERNATIONAL” will be great…why not include Philippines..hehehe just hoping…well but his movie is really spectacular…i’m very excited about NT3…hey just a comment maybe we shouldnt very serious of thinking wats on page 47…maybe we should think that this is a fiction and writers mind rules!!…unless there are real treasures…its really “LIFE aLTERING”=D
January 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
just saw the movie and i agree it rocks!!
Anyway, I think the 3rd sequel is about Charles Darwin’s “theory of Evolution” and some alien stuff. I figured what’s more life altering than knowing what’s the missing link of the evolution’s theory.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Just saw the movie, I want to know what’s on page 47, what total BS.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:48 am
In response to Ben’s post:
I think the storyline isn’t mundane at all D:
January 13th, 2008 at 1:55 am
I haven’t seen anyone mention (so far) about page 47 being about Atlantis. It was alluded to in the movie (the FBI agent said about Ben Gates, (paraphrase) “What? Did he find Atlantis?”
I really like the idea someone wrote about Stonehenge…I don’t know how it could be “life-altering” though.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I have to agree with ‘J.S. Heart’, I recall hearing mention of a letter written by Queen Victoria secretly endorsing the South during the American Civil War.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Page 47 doesn’t have anything to do with the letter from Queen Victoria. At the end of the movie, AFTER the treasure was found, the President asked Ben “what about page 47?” and Ben replied “I think I can help with that”. If it was about the letter, then why would the president be asking about it still? The treasure had already been found. It has to be a tease about another movie. It could be about anything.
January 13th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
National Treasure 3 ….. I think finding the last pint of water from the Fountain of Youth would be a life altering find. After following a puzzel trail around the world the last flask of life givin water collected from the Fountain of Youth could end up being located within the confines of the USA borders. What would be greater than gold and is life altering gift …..eternal youth.
Ponce de Leon, at his own expense, equipped an expedition to the North America in 1513 seeking the Fountain of Youth. The Fountain of Youth National Archaeological Park in St. Augustine floorida is the site where Spanish conquistadors first came ashore in what is now the continental United States.
January 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
NT3 area 51 FTW
January 15th, 2008 at 11:39 am
From Jon T’s interview:
“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.”
So maybe the Area 51 / Roswell / 1947 UFO crash may not be too farfetched? Add to that the pyramids of Giza?
The pyramids of Giza has to be one of the great mysteries of all time. One theory is that the air shafts are actually pointing to significant stars like those at Orion’s belt. Even the layout of the 3 pyramids are supposed to correspond to the layout of Orion constellation.
They say that there are even hidden chambers under the sphinx which could very well be the “Hall of Records” predicted by Edgar Cayce which could have ancient documents about humanity’s origins… life-altering “truths” that can be considered an international treasure?
January 15th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Or then again…
Maybe page 47 was…
… where Rhonds Byrne copied “The Secret”?
… the one used by Shrek as toilet paper?
January 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
As far as Ben saying he saw it written in a book… He is not referring to Rileys book, he is referring to the letter sent to General Pike as he read it in the Secret Book. This was clearly laid out as they were looking for the board from the HMS Resolute. In the movie before leaving the library, he flips to page 47 and takes a quick photo. Thats the end of the reference to page 47.
There is no doubt that page 47 will be intrical to the next movie. After reading the interviews, and wanting to go international. One would have to only speculate about where and what treasure they will resolve to discover.
I certainly enjoy the story lines and how they try to redefine our nations history as to have some other meaning. It certainly makes for great entertainment.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Page 47 food for thought:
The first movie was indirectly about the Mason’s. How about another controversial group in the third movie. The Mormon’s settled Utah in 1847, Joseph Smith as well as many other Mormon leader’s were Mason’s. Brigham Young was rumored to have access to a huge treasure of gold – Brother Brigham’s Gold. Brigham Young also had a legendary bodyguard by the name of Porter Rockwell who was rumored to be ruthless. Anybody see a possibilities here.
jarmanm79@yahoo.com
January 19th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
When i went to go see the movie i seemed to be the only one that noticed that page 47 was still left unanswered but my friend didnt believe me! I am totally excited for the 3rd one to come out my life dream is to be an extra in the film if you know how that can become reality please email me!!
January 19th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
nick cage r u that stupid that u didnt kno egypt is in africa? man i thought he was cool.
January 20th, 2008 at 12:53 am
I´m from Argentina, therefore sorry my english. I´ve enjoy the movie. And I am really impressed as I read all these you wrote.
I think:
* NT 1 and 2 have obviosly reference to masonery.
* The president is a mason himself (he had study architecture, knows about mason signs, many presidents had been masons, and so on)
* The president not only replies, but ask as a personal matter to read page 47. (He seems to be in a need, he ask for help.)
* I agree with those who wrote, this aenigma belongs to the past (nothing to do with area 51 or alien thing) but has connection with the present, and the future (so the president ask help with)
* The movie’s plots are just ficcional. I you want, you can call it ficcional history, but they are not, science ficcion movies. (out again with area 51, clonation, aliens, and so on.)
* I agree with those who think that would be:
- Youth fountain. (The president is ill. So he needs “more time”. A matter of life or death. Or…
- Bermuda Triangle. (triangle: masonery sign) The president has someone loved that has been lost in that aerea.)
That’s all. Hope you have understanded my bad english.
January 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I loved bothe mvies 1 & 2. They r 1 of my favs!! I thnk they should do the mvie of pg 47 about the statue of liberty. it is blieved that before it was built, pirates buried a treasure map and buried a pirate of it alive just to keep watch over it, even in death. it was said that two men went out searching for the map only to be scared of by the gravely image of a ghost. and to this day it is said that the statue of liberty is haunted. Who knows?
January 20th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I totally loved National Treasures 1 and 2. i can not stop watching ether of them. the page 47 idea for the third National Treasure is a great idea. i think Area 51 and what could be in it should be whats on the page.
But, No matter what the third movie is about i will buy a ticket a month before it premieres, if i can.
January 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Life Altering…Either God or Aliens..Holy Grail or Area 51..? Looking forward to it…Some one said earlier they should make #3 and leave it there..WHY..?? If Harry Potter is worth 7 and even Rocky was worth…Umm..A lot..lol..Then ALL the secrets of the world must be worth a hell of a lot of movies..As long as there are few main characters and on going influx and exit of villians and others..maybe a cameo here and there of past guests..As long at characters GROW and they don’t do a mummy returns and add heaven forbid KIDS…(I love kids I have 4 but not in a movie please)…I think there is a HUGE scope for a TON of movies…
Someone end this selfish strike so we can get on with our cimematic lives please…
January 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
wow ok just wanna say movies were good, ben’s comment to mitch was that he just knew about the queens letter cause he read it in the presidents book thats all that was, as for 47, cage just said that he wanted a hook something to keep people intrigued, that doesnt mean its gonna take place internationally. he just said he thinks they should for future movies go on quests on behalf of other people cause it would be fun for him so i dont see the page 47 connection even producer Jerry Bruckheimer said he doesnt know what it is cause of the strike only they know right now.
January 21st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Yes, NT 1 & 2 are great movies. As far as page 47 goes, it is obiously the key to the next movie. It was possibly designed by the writers to have no specific reference to an event in American History. Maybe the writers were intentionally planting a seed so these types of suggestions or ideas would be their fodder for ideas for the script of NT3. In other words, the writers are checking these comments every day!
I personally think that once Ben Gates tells the President what is on Page 47, the President will be so grateful that Ben Gates will be appointed to a new Cabinet Position that has something to do with finding and cataloging National Treasures (now that would be Life Altering!). I think also that the President from NT2 will will have a place in NT3. At the same time, Abigail and Ben will have gotten back together, as will have Ben’s parents. Abigail will have one or more children and one of them will become as knowledgeable as the kid in NT3. NT3 will conclude the Series with the realization that the real National Treasure of this country is not gold or other treasures, but actually the children of this country. What an ending!
Hey Writers: How do you like that story line?
January 22nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
In my opinion national treasure two is the most redundant movie of all time, apart from the terminator series. Let’s all go look for some massive treasure lair that alone contains more gold than is in all the world. The plot is basically the same with a few minor details sewn on. If you would like to see the first National Treasure again, watch it, but do not spend your time on this waste of a movie. The third movie, I can imagine would be even worse.
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
OMG if they make a National Treasure 3…
IDK what i am going to do i loved the first two and i am going to mount rushmore this summer.
If they do make a third one i will see it like 1000 times
i hope to God that they make a third one
January 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
hey all you guys talking about area 51, maybe they should have the aliens bring Elvis back too
January 25th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Please don’t put me on a list.
I loved the movie, but I think Page 47 is lame. The president gave him the info to get into the book. Why wouldn’t the president be straight up with him? And why did the president threaten to have him arrested anyway? It fell apart. If whatever it is is so “life altering” why wouldn’t the president just share it with him? He only had a few seconds to look at the book, why distract him with Page 47? It was a plot flaw. Sorry Nick.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:32 am
Why can’t page 47 be only “page 47″. I doubt that the “47″ refers to any date, book, script or something. It is the content of page 47 that is so interesting IMO. However, I do agree that page 47 was written until max. 1850/60 due to its position in the president’s book. Thus, it has something to do with history, but also is linked to the present (cuz of the president’s personal interest)
Two things are bothering me:
1) It is “life-altering”
2) The president seems to have a special interest in solving this
When someone like Gates says that the content of page 47 is “life altering”, this could obviously have a twofold meaning: a) it is life-altering for him as a treasure hunter because it is about a mystical treasure that now becomes real or b) it is life-altering for mankind, hence, by resolving the possible riddle on page 47 something could be revealed which is of enormous importance for men.
If it’s a), IMO it is a treasure based on myths such as oak island, certain pirate stuff, inca-aztec-eldorado etc.
If it’s b), then it is more about a treasure in combination with conspiracy. It is the treasure that makes it interesting for a treasure hunter, but more importantly, the conspiracy behind it is “life-altering” for mankind because it is so unbelievable, beyond belief etc. Something like the masons and the holy grail in the Movie “The Da Vinci Code”. It would be the secret information that bonds us.
Concerning my 2. point, the president was in Yale, he studied architecture. Maybe he’s a mason. It is said that the masons and illuminati are converging where the latter is the more secret group with the most influence on world’s politics and economy. Maybe there is a connex between page 47 and the president’s interest. He read it, but does not understand it. Therefore he needs Gates to help him solving the riddle. The secret behind could then be life-altering either.
However, I think that too much is interpreted in the number “47″.
gato
January 28th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Page 47, is also an important page in the TV Serie Alias Starring Jennifer Gardner…
January 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Here’s my plot for NT3: Page 47 (pulling in all the clues given in “Book of Secrets”):
The saucer that crashed in Roswell (in, coincidentally, 1947) contained a treasure map. On a visit to Area 51, JFK found it and wanted to make it public; hence, he was assassinated. And the 18 missing minutes of the Watergate tapes contained Nixon’s revelation that the real purpose of the Moon landings was to get the treasure, which now resides in the secret nuclear bunker at Mount Weather.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:15 am
My thoughts for NT3: Page 47
I think it might be plausible to have the NT3 be about the Spanish-American War. I mean if you think about it, NT was about the Revolutionary War. NT2 was about the Civil War. So why not make NT3 about the Spanish-American War.
I mean if you really think about it. Both movies dealt with a treasure that might be real. (who’s to say it’s not?) They also dealt with history that took place with the U.S; but started out dealing with other countries; in some form of fashion. So why not continue the chronological order of Wars that this country has been through?
[As for the page 47 being before President Lincoln. If you listen to what was said while "Ben" was reading the book dealing with the "clue" he reads in President Truman's log, (that President Truman is the one who found the secret compartment and took the "clue". After taking the "clue" photos where taken of it; then the "clue" was destroyed.) Therefore, when "Ben" turned the pages back to get to page 47 you really can't tell where in history he was at in the book. Because there are 17 Presidents between Lincoln and Truman. So really anything that happened between their time in office could be what NT3 will be about.]
But, then again that is just my thoughts on the matter and what I think would be entertaining for the 3rd movie.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
National Treasure 3? I can’t hardly wait for it to set up! My ideas for the third installment is Ben Gates, Abigal, and Riley go to find the Lost City of Atlantis!!!!!!!!
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
I am a huge treasure hunting type of guy and I was very happy with National Treasure 2! I love the sequel already and I would love to hear ideas from the Director and give my ideas as a fan of the films. So, my idea for the third installment is: Finding the city of Atlantis or finding treasre in European cities underground and finding old ancient treasure from Italy! So my two idea titles are:
1-National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis
2-National Treasure 3: The Mythic City
And I love to hear about if there are possibilities of a fourth National Treasure. (National Treasure 4)!
So I would love to hear ideas about the third installment and I would love to see it when it comes out in theaters (2008 or 2009)
National Treasure Fan
Jonathan M
February 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 am
i dont think it has to do with area 51. as ben and riley are looking thru the book riley points out area 51 and ben goes past it since he doesnt have much time. ben’s dad hints towards atlantis at the beginning, so idk. a few other theories mentioned here would be pretty cool. and i agree, if harry potter is worth 7, n.t. is worth doubble that lol
February 3rd, 2008 at 8:17 am
The secret to page 47 could have something to do with the Scottish Rite Masonic degrees. Euclid’s 47th problem is mentioned throughout the degrees and the man who rewrote the degrees, Albert Pike, is mentioned throughout the movie.
February 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Gentlemen,
I’m a treasure hunter, thats why I love treasure hunting movies. I hope the next national treasure movies tackles about the infamous YAMASHITA TREASURE or Japanese WW2 War Booties bcoz it involves the US government also. Pls. read the book of Seagraves re: Gold Warriors, Asian Loot, Marcos Gold and etc.
Our team have documented more than 100+ suspected Japanese WW2 treasure sites (Yamashita treasures) all over the Philippines…
For more info: gergio2006@yahooo.com.ph
February 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
All this talk about NT makes me
with all the writers on strike, there won’t be a NT# for a while yet
February 7th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
i know exactly how we can find out whats on page 47 when the 2nd movie comes out on dvd pause it when ben takes the picture!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Here’s one for you to ponder “page 47″
Why assume 47 is one number and why not 4 and 7 i.e. the book of secrets is not laid out in the numeric sense that we think of i.e. 1,2,3,4 why couldn’t the book itself be a puzzle after all it does contain presidential secrets.
Any way this is my thinking of where they could go with 4 and 7, they relate to two us presidents.
James Madison, the fourth us president also referred to as “Father of the Constitution” because he was indeed the principle author of that document. This gave him direct contact with the constitution and would allow for him to hide a map. Being also responsible for the first ten amendments this gave him chance to hide the map plus ensuring it became a secret. It is also well documented that James was a strong believer that the new republic needed checks and balances to limit the powers of special interests. So what if he was hiding some gold from the New Republic so that they didn’t become a dominant nation. He believed very strongly that the new nation should fight against aristocracy and corruption and was deeply committed to creating mechanisms that would ensure republicanism in the US. So he didn’t believe in higher classes so if he knew the where a bouts of the Washington gold (all I’ll say is the fathers last entry in the story of the cherry tree)
But where could the 7 come from well Andrew Jackson and ill update you on that shortly.
but what I will say is keep us guessing because as a writer I find National Treasure so inspiring Well done and here’s hoping for a trio of fantastic films.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:38 am
My husband just saw the movie last night and it was AWESOME!!! We cant wait until the 3rd one comes out. As for page 47, my husband also thinks it could maybe be the fountain of youth. That would make a good story. It would definately be life altering.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Does any 1 no were u can buy a resolute desk with a secret compartment exactly like the 1 in the movie .
February 11th, 2008 at 1:28 am
How about…47 means nothing yet….except maybe a reference to 4 score and 7 (47) years ago….OR possibly about our ‘future’ 47th president? i love the fact that i can use my imagination on what it could be…it was a great movie though…being a Philadelphian; i like the 1st movie better. bring on the next….maybe the next movie could be Giza Pyramid related??hmmmmm…..
February 11th, 2008 at 4:38 am
hello…no i dont know where. good movie tho
xx
February 12th, 2008 at 5:11 am
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February 13th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Great Seal of the United States
Interesting story out today by Associated Press about the State Department trying to downplay Masonic symbols in the Great Seal of the United States.
The State Department – keepers of the Great Seal of the United States – want you to know what it is not.
It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure.
Not that the Seal’s symbols — the all-seeing eye, the unfinished pyramid, the Latin phrases, the bald eagle clutching an olive branch and arrows and the number 13 — aren’t powerful.
They are, historians say. Yet their meanings have been misidentified, misunderstood and misrepresented almost since the Continental Congress first commissioned the Seal in 1776.
The theories about the Great Seal include:
_That the Seal proves the domination of the United States by a powerful, quasi-religious cult. The Ancient Scottish Rite of Freemasonry is a perennial favorite of conspiracy theorists as some Founding Fathers were Masons and the Seal uses several Masonic symbols.
_That the Seal draws on Satanism or polytheistic ritual to promote a universal new world order under which Earth would be ruled by a single omnipotent government.
_That repeated references to 13 — the number of steps in the unfinished pyramid, stars in the constellation over the eagle’s head, arrows in the eagle’s claw, stripes on the eagle’s shield, letters in the phrase “Annuit Coeptis” — demonstrate the power of 13 American families.
_That there are two seals: one in which the eagle’s head faces the arrows for times of war and another in which the eagle’s head faces the olive branch for times of peace.
All rubbish, according to historians, who say the Seal’s symbolism is far less ominous or revelatory than many believe.
The counter arguments:
_That known Masons like the first U.S. president, George Washington, and Benjamin Franklin had no role in designing the final seal, which uses elements of traditional heraldry, such as the unfinished pyramid to symbolize a work in progress, arrows for war and an olive branch for peace. Masons share some of those symbols, but they have never been exclusively the domain of the order.
_That the phrase “Novus Ordo Seculorum” below the Roman numerals for 1776 at the base of the pyramid translates as “A New Order of the Ages” that began with independence and does not imply the United States will be the lynchpin of a sinister “New World Order.”
_That the words “Annuit Coeptis” (”Providence favors”) and the eye of providence that hovers over the pyramid refer to unexpected interventions of fate that assisted the colonists in creating a new country.
_That the references to 13 refer to the number of colonies that formed the original United States.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I think National Treasure 3 should be about what is on page 47, and what is on page 47 should be about AMERICA because this is the PRESIDENT’s book, but I think the clues shoud lead to different countries. I also think you should add a new character, one that is particularly linked to Riley.
February 16th, 2008 at 3:22 am
i am almost posative its talking about roswell because i am a huge feauturama fan and thay did a roswell ephisode and thay gave the date that roswell supossedly happend happens to match with it and hey aleans would change it all as to atlantis that could be intresting but if it goes international theres plenty of stuff other then atlanis to go off of mabey find a way to use the belale ciphers if its too stay on us soil
February 16th, 2008 at 3:38 am
another note oak island is a great idea because of the challenges to get to the treasure is so well engiered i hope nobody finds it id like to give it a shot just figuren out whats down there would be worth it for me
February 18th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Hmm…
Life Altering?
The Grail?
Hmm….
To much Indiana Jones like…
But if you think of it…
Eternal life is the greatest treasure…
Uh… oh…
Hey isnt the next Indiana Jones coming out?
February 18th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
RE: I totally agree! I definitly think that National Treasure 3 should be on the lost suken city of Atlantis!!!
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
I love these films a lot and I would love to see a National Treasure 4-6!!
I think the first film is very interesting and exciting! I love treasure hunting type movies! And I love the way it was made.
Ben Gates goes to Easter Island and finds clues and goes to Europe and then gets into a submarine and finds Atlantis!
Awesome plot!!!
National Treasure 3 will be awesome to see coming out in 2009 or 2010.
Please make a forth National Treasure film followed by 2 more with the same cast starring in it and the same composer and producers and director!
Although I would like to see Ian Howe show up again (Sean Bean).
Maybe 2 villains in the third one.
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
Sounds great to me!
- National Treasure Fan
- Jonathan
February 21st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I think the most logical idea for the new movie is something both ben and the president share a passion for. The president studied historical architecture and cant exactly look himself so maybe he was interested in some building that he wants ben to help him with. Hence, sphinx, pyramids, Aztec temple or any of the 7 wonders of the ancient world could be plausable ideas.
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:54 am
I agree! But we already had the ancient temples looked at and the Aztec places seen already.
In National Treasure 4 it’ll be cool to see Ben travel to Egypt and Russia and amybe Hawaii.
Whatta think?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:02 am
question that’s been in my mind since they started talkin bout a city of gold..and a sertain name mentioned to have found this city before….
isn’t that golden city, actually El Dorado??
and it didnt really seem like a city..way 2 small..looked more like a temple. I wonder how ritch they all got now, whahahaha.
anyways, loved seeing them hunt for clues again. The clues were as great as ever..but NT1 keeps being the number 1. And what Cage said about making the third movie a “International Treasure”seems even better.
Let’s just w8 and see, while other great adventures r coming to the cinema’s…Indy 4, Ironman…
February 26th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I think that anything like Atlantis or Fountain of Youth would be a really _bad_ idea for the next movies. I mean, for most of the people, the excitement and the tension of the movies has been that these treasures and clues are almost something, that you could believe. But if they find Atlantis… Hey c’mon, that’s so a myth because the story of Atlantis is not even possible, or that’s what all the latest theories and proof say! A much more better idea would be some Chinese or African treasure or some sunken ship, but I really hope that these writers come up with something really interesting, exciting and suprising
– and hopefully something that could be more than just a stupid myth!
And I think that three movies would be just perfect, because how many great treasures there can be found? Fourth movie could become a ridicilous flop, and we don’t want that, do we?
February 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Just thinking…
Wouldn’t be cool to see them find a treasure in Europe barried under Rome, Italy or Austria or search into old castles from the ancient times – the 1600’s!
National Treasure 3 sound cool!
February 28th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I think Pg 47 is going to be about the fountain of youth
February 29th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
i think they should make a third and fourth moive and also i think nicholas cage is cute and the guy who plays riley poole
March 1st, 2008 at 1:00 am
since page 47 is close to the beginning of the Book of Secrets and the mention of Queen Victoria. I beleive it leads to the restoration of World Power to Britain. Besides the Queen’s Jewels or the Royal Family themselves the only other famous legacy would be Excaliber. Page 47 leads them to Rome where we actually find out that this was in fact Caeser’s sword (As in the movie The Last Legion). In Rome Ben and his crew will find the lost tomb of Caeser which will lead our adventurers to Palma Spain where one of the oldest Churches stand with a mosiac that will point us toward Barcelona then onto Britain itself. The story of the sword and the stone is a half truth in which this magical sword is also a key that open the entire Royal Families Treasure and lets us know that the present Jewels are just leftovers. In this adventure 2 villains will be after Ben and his crew. The US governement and another Treasure Hunter that helps Ben in Rome and follows him. Neither the US or the other Treasure Hunter wants Ben to find the Sword of Kings and Key to Europes greatest treasure. I could have a script ready in 72 hours. End of Line.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I think there should be five of these movies. Even more would be good. I think that because they deal with history, it it very plausable that they keep going. Great stuff.Much better than pirates.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
i hope the next national treasure is so awesome it gives off even more ideas as to produce even more ideas for national treasure movies to keep going for yrs & yrs.
i would just die if they didnt keep going
March 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
if they ever change the cast, i will be devastated. so, they shouldn’t make so many movies that nicolas cage and diane kruger get old and gray, ’cause then the movies wouldn’t be as exciting, watching old people hunt for treasure.
anyway, disney registered the domains NATIONALTREASURE3DVD.COM and NATIONALTREASURE4DVD.COM, and the movies might be coming out in 2010/11 and 2013! i can’t wait!
i don’t think the next movie will be about the fountain of youth, because that is rumored to be the theme of the next pirates of the caribbean film, and i don’t think bruckheimer would do two movies that are practically the same. but any other theme would work!
March 12th, 2008 at 10:54 am
How about Captian Kidd’s lost treasure buried beneath New York City somewhere? We homeschool and just read about this in our history book. It would be international because of the piracy done in the Indian Ocean, yet it would still remain a National Treasure. It could bring into the picture Ben’s diving/military training, early history of the U.S., Great Britain’s monarchy, international ships being pirated by Captain Kidd, and the still exciting treasure hunt on our own soil. Pirates sell and so does hidden gold!! What do you think? Keep up the great work on these movies – they are fantastic!
March 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
i agree with scotty. Just pause it. I thoght i saw some writeing on it.
Great Movies keep’em comeing.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:38 am
not be be like against national treasure or anything (i loved the movies 1 and 2) but i think its time for a change. ben gates and abigail have been the main characters for the first two movies and i think it would be great if they had and kid and he/she became the main character because they ( ben and abigail) are really getiing on my nerves. there are so many opportunities to kill em off. please take the chance…
March 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Ummm. Why would they kill off Ben & Abigal in NT 3?
That is a dumb and complete ridicolus idea. Ben is the main character and if he dies they just killed the movie.
Leave and Abigal in the story/ riley in it.
They should make 5 more movies.
National Treasure 3 – 6
My idea!
March 16th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I cannot waaaaaait for the 3rd movie. The first movie is my favorite movie of all time, and I really liked the second as well, so I’m very excited for a third. I hope they can keep the same feeling as the first one though, and not go in a completely different direction.
I DEMAND MORE RILEY!
March 17th, 2008 at 4:27 am
There are some really great ideas on this page for the content that should be on page 47. I thought both movies were very intertaining and would love to watch more. I think about the scene when Ben is looking through the book. What I noticed is that the book was not necessarily in chronicalogical order by date of entry, but by date of first entry of a topic. In the second movie, entrys from a very long time ago where placed in the same place as those left later on….when the wood was found in the desk. Keeping this in mind, we could go pretty much anywhere with the movie. Since the president has an effinity for architechture, and we need to have something interesting for Ben to tell the history of, I think it would be really cool to incorperate the architecture and intillect of Frank Loyd Wright. He was no doubt a brilliant intillect that could have easily hidden a clue or two under the waterfall of his famous house. It may also be interesting if the movie maybe shifted its idea of treasure from value of only having knowlege of the past and gold to a vast library of scientific knowlege…that perhaps gave Frank some of his Ideas? At anyrate this is surely where they hold the knowledge for nuclear fusion , the propentual engine, among other things. Just some ideas I guess. yeah, good movies lol
March 17th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Oh and for the writers…yeah, what would huck fin be without mark twain…..nothing thats what. Art comes in many forms but it all comes from a mind with an imagination. To create something truly inthralling is definately outside the realm of most peoples abilities. You deserve to be paid as much as I deserve to see the next season of Hereos! I also have to beleive that there are many people in the entertainment industry that makes way more than what they should….especially in exec positions and what not….that is pretty much industry universal….imagine how much money there would be to spread about the lower to middle class if there were not people living on six figures a year….rediculous….maybe even if they just took the six figure bonuses out…..Some people work hard and deserve to be rich….but come on…Bill Gates, Donald Trump…..hmph……seriously, how can you sleep at night knowing there are familys struggling to keep the power on…..oh wait, you donated to some charitys…..yeah….anyway….Go Writers!
March 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
some great ideas
but have any of you guys read matthew reilley’s novels 7 ancient wonders etc just one of the ancient wonders would be in keeping with the franchise. all seeing eye see dollar bill in nt2
ie architecture etc.
international…
what about all 7
what about the riddle of the sphinx?
what about atlantis
what about Troy or any of the mirriad of lostcities although too close to nt2….
my bets are on secret of perpetual motion / cold fusion as these seem to be favourites with writers at the moment
just some thought
March 20th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
National Treasure 3: The Lost World
I would like to see more underground / ancient city trwasure or midievil castles and etc. It would be cool to see the castle of Vlad The Impaler!
Or the lost cities of Ancient Europe or even Russia!
Cool ideas are being put onto the table!
March 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Area 51 was discovered in Independence Day.
Anyway, this movie rocks! I loved the first one so much my family and I did the NT tour of DC. Check it out on the DC tourism website. It was pretty cool but get to the Capitol early for tour tickets and allow about 3-4 days to really see everything.
The second movie was fantastic. If there was a third one released tomorrow, I would take the day off to see it.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
YesArea 51 was discovered in independance day. However , just because it’s in one movie doesn’t mean it cannot be used in another movie. That would be like saying aliens came to earth in “The day the earth Stood Still” after seeing “E.T” for the first time and being annoyed about it. For the record the movie “Roswell” was all about Area 51 and came before Independance day. You might say thats the pot calling the kettle black. Especially if Indpendance day is implied by you to be the end all be all of movies about area 51.
That is beside the point. I agree both movies are exceptionally well written, somewhat plausable even in some respects but of course not true I would certainly take the day off school to see the third!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I loved the end of 2 and the set up for 3 Great Job!!!
I also found this poster on the net a while back, saved it to my hard drive, and then uploaded it to image shack, good thing I did as the origanal page is now gone.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8292/page47ia7bb7.jpg
Lets see if url will work to post it here [image]http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8292/page47ia7bb7.jpg[/image]
March 25th, 2008 at 2:16 am
Let Ben get married at the next Treasure site. This would be life-altering!! I will like it…. and I love history!
March 25th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Jenny nice though but life altering for only Ben not the President and the rest of the world, I have heard rumors:
1.Fountin of youth, which would make good sence, as it would be lif altering for the whole world.
2. Finding Atlantis with a usable clean power source.
3. A working space Craft (just need to figute out how to turn it on, and work it, must deciper the ailien symbols, and find out that aliens have been very active in human history guiding events)and then using it to travel to the planet of the builders of it, to meet them.
Going to try to paste the image again……….
March 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Not sure what the movie writers have planned but I wrote a National Treasure 3 story based on page 47 which I turned into a Treasure Hunt for my husband’s 50th Birthday celebration. They had to use the Playfair cipher to work out where to meet to being the hunt. I couldn’t believe everyone stayed so glued to the clues for hours even though we had a heatwave and the hunt started in a large open park. Anyone interested?
March 26th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
That sounds like a really fun idea to do a Treasure hunt. I just might suggest to my mom to do that for my Dad’s birthday. In the mean time though I have no idea what the third movie will be pertaining to. I however positive it will be an exceptional story, most sequals have difficulty living up to their predecessors (I think that means before oh well you get the idea) The point is its hard to make a second movie as good as the first. As far as the Book of secrets that was not the case I enjoyed it as much as the first. So I have no doubt the third will be equally good if not better!
March 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
In a movie about clues, the producers left the audience with a clue that apparantly is being out-thought. Page 47 was revealed by the Pres. while discussing with Ben, among other things Lincoln. The very end of the movie/beg. of the credits has a line from The Gettysburg Address in the background……”our forefathers set forth upon this continent….” or something to that effect. So what you have here, is a tribute to Lincoln’s address; four score and seven years ago……page 47.
Thank you.
March 31st, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I loved both the movies they kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time!! Although they leave us woundering whats on page 47 did any of here it when rily said whats in the book and the president looks back and says what book..mabey ben is going to go behind the everyones back and do the hunting on his on because no one is supposed to know about the book of secrets..just a thought. anyway can’t wait for the 3rd i love u.s History
April 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I would have to say that The Steven (post 79) has one of the better working theories. The war of 1812 would fit around the pages of the book. They could tie Napolean and the Louisiana Purchase into the movie because the Napolean sold the land to the US for money to help fight the british, who were ironically trading with the indians in America during that time. America fights with the British to get them out, and the Brits leave everything there.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
A 3nd one on page 47 in 2008.
There’s even been some rumblings of Walt Disney Imagineering developing a “National Treasure” -themed attraction. But — to be honest — I think that’s being done mostly to placate Nicholas Cage. Who — when he was doing publicity for “Book of Secrets” back in December — was actually quoted as saying that:
I do not see it going to be in 2008 , but in late 2009.
April 6th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
And now Jim Hill has learned of a brief plot description has been making the rounds “which would supposedly send the Gates family off to Easter Island and beyond in search of Atlantis. More importantly, the pure, clean power source that was supposedly lost forever when this ancient civilization sank beneath the sea. Which — were it to be harnessed today — would immediately put an end to global warming. Not to mention making gas & oil obsolete.” Could this be the information hidden on Page 47 of the President’s book?
But I would like to see it on the war of 1812.
April 6th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I think that anything like Atlantis or Fountain of Youth would be a really _bad_ idea for the next movies.
April 7th, 2008 at 9:11 am
number 18 was completely wrong because of one small mistake in the movie
April 19th, 2008 at 12:44 am
I think for National Treasure 3 they should go to Egypt and Ben finds a treasure hidden by his older grandfather before Thomas Gates back in 1600’s. Ben, Abigal, and Riley and the others find a treasure hidden beneath a pyramid that leads to Page 47 and later leads them to Nevada towards Area 51.
My fourth idea…I’m still going with the idea for Atlantis for National Treasure 3!
May 4th, 2008 at 8:11 am
hmmm, i replayed the ending where ben were ask about the request president asked, it sounds like life vondering or something like that not sure. but really want to know more
May 4th, 2008 at 8:28 am
my bad life-altering
May 11th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I would really like to see nick and abigal get back to gether. And get married or have a baby or some thing i just think more has to happen between them because they are such a cute couple so something more has to happen in NT3. I am so EXCITED!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I relley like nation treasure 1 and 2 so u should make a thrid one. As soon as i walk out of the movie theater i was saying what on page 47. SO U SHOULD MAKE THE THRID ONE PLEASE
May 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
NASHVILLE TREASURE…AW YEAH
May 12th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
They should make NT3 about the coffee-can time capsule I buried in my back yard back in 1974. I think it had a MAD magazine and some baseball cards in it. That would make an AWESOME story line.
May 13th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
I thought these were great movies. why are so many people who dont like them making comments on them ….
May 13th, 2008 at 9:31 pm
Anyways, I think the next movie should have something to do with the Illuminati and some sort of conspiracy having to do with the creation of the US. This would make sense because the Illuminati supposedly started in 1776.
May 17th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
They should do a story based on the truth of Jesus. The movie Mel Gibson did was ok, but let’s do a review of what really happened after he was crucified. What is the truth behind the legend. Wouldn’t we all like to know. There are a lot of life altering clues that is being hidden in the vatacin that need to be reviewed and what we all are subject to knowing. Thier are all kinds of story’s we could hear, but there is truth to the fscts like the shroud of taurin, or the chalis, the holy grail, and even the truth behind the son of man, would make a life altering story. Let’s seek the truth, where it could lead in to the illuminati and the years of 2008-2012 as written in prophicies over 2000 years ago byMichel Nostradamus. That would the greatest treasure to reveal to all man kind.
May 18th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Well the President in the movie said “I wat you to do somthing for me; page 47, just have a look at that.”
So it would logically have somthing to do with the interests of presidents in general or in the particular interest of that president. The president in the movie was a big George Washington fan so maybe it has to do with George Washington.
It could also be about
Atlantis
The treasure at oak Isalnd
The pyramides
Roswell- Area 51
Burmuda Triangle
perhaps a lot of other things
I just hope that whatever it is – it ties in the ancient Egyptians and the masons into a history long journy or search for some special “thing.”
I pray it isn’t about global wamring (as i hearedit might be) because that would be retarded.
May 18th, 2008 at 6:01 pm
gene at #162 makes a very interesting point. Remember the president in the movie said “Lincoln is my favorite too..” referring to his favorite president.
So I think it probably will have somthing to do with Lincoln and/or the civil war. It would tie the thrid movie in nicely. The only thing to do now is to look up Lincoln conspiracies and see which one it will probably be.
May 18th, 2008 at 6:04 pm
Or was Booth simply a tool in a much larger conspiracy?
http://home.att.net/~rjnorton/Lincoln74.html
Run with it from ancient Egypt all the way to the treasure at oak island which has burried in it the secret knowledge of the origins of man kind – or what have you-
May 19th, 2008 at 12:34 am
ya know no one else posted this
the thing with page 47
ok first of all 4 +7 is 11
put at the very top of the page on 47 it has the number 9 right above the the 47 in a straight line to the top of the page
so there for it has something to do with 9/11
May 19th, 2008 at 11:20 am
I disagree, 9/11 is not a “treasure”. The President’s book of our nation’s greatest secrets is a consiparcy. Remember, for presidents by presidents only. Page 47 in our nation’s history would have to go far back as we are in what we call the millinium. Page 47 maybe refering to a treasure that is refered to as “a cover up” or “a conspiracy”. We longly denied the existence of area 51 until President Clinton, under the freedom of information act ,questioned wether or not this place actually existed. Could you imagine how our lives would change if we are the conspirotaurs to the biggest cover up of all? Life altering?Roswell is the most highly reviewed cover up in our nations history. Remember, it is a book of “secrets”. The book of secrets is also refered to as what they call “None of Our Business” that is why we have a book of secrets, of course it exists, the secret lies with our free masons. They are derived from the time of The Crusaders, or what they were called back then, The Knights Templar. The Free Masons are a secret society that evolve themselves in an envelope of secrets. Did you know that most of our Republican President’s were Free Masons?Just keep in mind, what ever it maybe, it’s life altering. “CONSPIRACY” is not a theory.
May 20th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
I don’t think that it is anything that any of ya’ll said. The first two were two treasures that noone had thought of. I am a huge history person and i never thought of them. And the treasure hunt can easily start in the us and end up in another country. And lets not assume that it is not a treasure. They could veer off course and change the basic idea.
May 20th, 2008 at 9:38 pm
I know, I know ….. A time machine !!
May 21st, 2008 at 9:10 am
Then the plot of the story will have nothing to do with the title? That doesn’t make sense. Maybe I can see ending up in another country, like trying to find out the secret behind Roselyn Chapel, or what truly lies beneath that place.Or maybe trying to decipher the “Song of Songs” written by Solomon when the Temple was built . The song is a true treasure map to the whereabouts to the Ark of The Covenant. That would be life altering. Did you know Solomon was very good with riddles and knew how to “Double Talk”?When he gave his speech when he built the great temple, was a riddle? It was said his speech was told in such a manner, or riddle, that he practically was telling us all about the ark of the covenant and its meaning. That could start from that book of secrets as most of our presidents were free masons,which had deep ties to the knights templar, who were the sworn protectors of christianity.Give that some thought.
May 21st, 2008 at 1:05 pm
I think the best idea if it was to go international would be to have him find the Zanidu the lost city of Kublai Khan. They could tie in the counts billions in treasure that Ghenis Khan siezed throughout Asia during his conquests. It would be the equalivant of first movie that found the great treasure patronage of the Western World.
May 21st, 2008 at 5:06 pm
Obviously, as several have pointed out, page 47 refers to the page number in the president’s book. He had to flip back in the book because it’s from earlier in history.
The entire family is dying to find out what’s on the page. I just hope they are smart enough to realise that their little cliff hanger has caused quite a stir. Like so many others, my reaction to the end of the movie was, “Oh no! What the heck was on that page?” When the next movie comes out thousands are going to head to the theater expecting to find out. If it’s not forthcoming many will be disappointed in the movie… no matter how good it is.
Most importantly, I hope they continue to keep the focus on American themes. Given the dynamic nature of our history and origins, the world is still wide open for story plot. These movies have directly impacted the interest in U. S. history by our young people, and it would be a shame to pass up such a golden opportunity. And they wouldn’t be passing up on good stories. There was obviously a great interest in history,or it wouldn’t have been a hit in the first place.
May 21st, 2008 at 7:01 pm
I think area 51 wouldn’t make that great of a movie, plus it would be to far fetched for this series.
atlantis would be a fun one to see but its all ready been done before, under water movies are played out
i just hope that they make the movie as realistic as possible cause i think thats where the true awesomeness of these movies is.. it could be real
May 21st, 2008 at 8:36 pm
i have not read all of this thread so it might be mentioned already. at some point in the movie someone says something like “what has he found now Atlantis” the lore of Atlantis and its technology would be profoundly “life altering” our world is very old and much in the ocean and underground is still very illusive to us and to think their is a great civilization that existed before our known history isn’t really hard to believe, its about as hard as believing in life on other worlds, however unlikely it is still possible. ive heard alot along the way about different versions of atlantis one being it was a port city in mexico or south america and an earthquake callapsed the city into the ocean another version is it was an underwater city with great technology and knowledge with human like people (slight differences)
May 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
Well, I’ve watched 2nd part of the movie for a ~ 15th time…
What did ben mean by saying “Sadusky new more about this book”(or smth like this) ?? sadusky new about the book, and, even thought he didn’t tell ben, new where it was… Why??
NT1: in the end, we see that sadusky is wearing th Knights Templars symbol, and knows some things about the treasure…
Also, I have such a feeling, that sadusky is trying to stop ben from finding what he is looking for… For example, when ben is trying to escape (in NY)…
NT2: he doesn’t care at all about the assassination of president Lincoln… but he cares about who is Mitch and why he came out right now… he bought Rileys book… Why?? (of course his explanation is quite logical, but…)
May 21st, 2008 at 11:55 pm
Sorry fellows but I don’t concur with the theme of NT2.
The first movie was original, tracing the characters from the Arctic Ship, to DC and up through to the finale in Boston with a tour of the northeast corridor cities and its hidden chambers. All and all, it was a battle of wits and brawn between Sean Bean and Nick Cage, a great film all and all, with a cool but brewing romantic interest in addition to the friendly banter between Cage and Bartha.
This second film was based on a silly premise, a city of gold in the Dakotas, as if the Confederates could have trekked that far north or have come down from British Canada just to be able to pay for a war which was already lost or at least pretty darn close if you’d seen the type of damage that General Sherman had done during his drive to the sea. With Cage clearing his family name on a phony Lincoln conspiracy ploy and Harris doing something similar but with guns. Sorry, that’s not a premise but a misstep. Next, there was a constant parallelism between the barbs of Gate’s parents and that with his current ex-gf. Common, isn’t that ploy a bit trite and boring by 2008? This isn’t the “Parent Trap”. And finally, after all the excitement of Harry Keitel being a silent admirer of Gate’s adventures in the first film, why is he such a dud in the second? And finally, Bartha stopped being funny as a pussywhipped, second fiddle sidekick. All the scenes with him, as a Mission Impossible tech savvy “Luther”, were a snooz-a-thon.
May 22nd, 2008 at 1:06 pm
I DONT THINK IT WILL HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH THE Fountain of Youth BECAUSE THEY ARE DOING THAT WITH THE NEW PIRATES MOVIE SO TWO DISNEY MOVIES ABOUT THE SAME THING I DONT THINK SO…
May 22nd, 2008 at 1:33 pm
Does anyone else think that Wilkinson was a descendant of John Wilkes Booth and that is why he was wanting to find the treasure and discredit Gates so badly?
May 23rd, 2008 at 1:55 am
sooo i think they should do three but keep on going with them to at least 5 i mean especially if they went to other countries i mean look at indiana jones they jsut came out with 4 and are working on 5 supposedly but yea its still strong and i think this is just as addicting its like modern day indy…haha
May 23rd, 2008 at 2:59 am
Ok, Just got done watching Both NTs on dvd back to back
(I also saw them both in the Movies)
Anyway unless someone already said this, I think Page 47 deals with TIME TRAVEL. Perhaps a portal, or location of a machine.
The Prez read the whole book, so that kills off Area 51 and Aliens.
As for life altering, Time Travel would clearly be life altering.
Just my 2c
May 24th, 2008 at 12:11 am
The 3rd movie will probably be about Global Warming and how humans are causing it, that’s why Gates said ” Life Altering”.. Maybe Gates will discover that we need to drill for oil inside the Statue of Liberty or that maybe 911 was actually an inside job …Page 47 may also be about how Almost every president has been either a freemason or member of the ancient skull and bones society.. They ought to do a scene where Gates discovers naked politicians in a forest running around Bohemian Grove and he has to scale the 40 ft Molech statue and retrieve the secret page 47 puzzle piece while dancing to GOD SAVE THE QUEEN! Damn im a good writer…
May 24th, 2008 at 3:43 pm
well if you look at them looking at the President’s book, you see that there is a mention of the Kennedy assassination, then of corse the move on to the other pages. But I feel that page 47 is not significant to the president’s book, but to “The Warren Report”. If you are to look at an old copy of the book, you will find that on that very page, it begains (chapter IV) to talk about the “assassin” that killed Kennedy. Could then be a movie on the assassination of JFK, and who really killed kennedy. Crazy I know, but what if?
~sal~aka~seg~
May 24th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
I loved this movie and part 1 and I as well as all of you are trying to figure out what page 47 could be about what if it is about the mayan calendar and how its supposed to end in 12-23-2012 and that the world is supposed to end that day too!! that would indeed be life altering
May 24th, 2008 at 4:40 pm
and also the mayan pyramids
May 24th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
and sorry its 12-21-2012 that the mayan calendar ends
May 24th, 2008 at 7:06 pm
First off my family loved the movie and we are waiting to find out what the whole page 47 thing is about. I do believe though that it has to be a code on the page leading to something that has to do with American history. It should also play to the strengths of Gates, according to the first movie he has a degree in American history. I also think it said he was a Naval dive officer. I don’t care if it does become International Treasure and sends Gates and his friends and family traveling all around the world, it should still tie dirrectly in the history of America. I personally like the idea that has been mentioned before the lost city of Atlantis.
May 24th, 2008 at 7:51 pm
I just finished watching NT2 on DVD–it left the theaters before I had a chance to see it.
It’s pretty unlikely that the third movie will have anything to do with:
- the Masons or the Templars, because the Templar treasure was the subject of the first movie. Because of this, it probably won’t have anything to do with anything else related to the Masons or Templars, or rumored to be related to them, such as Rosslyn Chapel, Oak Island, etc.
- Lincoln or the Civil War–those were key elements of the second movie.
As to what it might be about:
The Book of Secrets is probably supposed to be chronological–while Cage is first flipping through the book, he’s shown at the first page, which is signed “G. Washington”. Pages immediately after that are written with a quill pen. The folded page of President Kennedy’s autopsy drawing, and the photos of his motorcade, are seen towards the beginning of the book, but they’re removable, and were inserted casually out of place by some sloppy previous reader. He’s then shown flipping past a page with Andrew Johnson’s name in the title–he was Lincoln’s vice president, and became president upon Lincoln’s death, so at this point Cage seems to be flipping pages chronologically. The next camera angle shows Cage flipping through the back pages, long past these pages, and past page 47, when his assistant says “Area 51!”. This is at first confusing, but it’s just meant to be a quick time jump to show that he was at least interested in other parts of the book. He then begins to flip through the book in reverse, and returns to the earlier pages, where he begins reading the page referring to Queen Victoria. Later, when Cage is taking pictures of page 47, we see that it and page 46 to its left, contain a lot of text, written in the same quill pen style as the text in the other early pages of the book (and documents in general) from the early days of American history, through about the time of the Civil War and somewhat beyond. So whatever the next movie is about, it’s supposed to have some kind of presence in America during that timeframe. We don’t yet know more precisely, since we don’t yet know exactly where page 47 is located chronologically, but when Cage is shown looking at the page referring to Queen Victoria’s letters, it looks like it’s more than 47 pages into the book–if this is the case, page 47 would have been written before that, possibly in the early 1800s. But even if the book is chronological, that doesn’t mean page 47 couldn’t have some reference to alien life. As reported, the director Jon Turteltaub said “what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.” The plot of Star Trek is, in general, “To seek out new life, and new civilizations…To boldy go where no one has gone before.” This might be a hint that it has something to do with the possibility of alien life on earth, which may indeed be the greatest secret in America today, if it’s true, and if it’s a secret that “the American government” knows. So, if the next movie has anything to do with this, then they’ll figure out some way to present some evidence for aliens in America PRIOR to Roswell, etc., possibly having some influence on American history during that time. The most well-known location tied to aliens in America, is Area 51, Roswell, etc., which aren’t too far from each other. The “National Treasure” movies are very multi-location-featured, so this lets the moviemakers go to at least two different locations, complete with underground facilities at Area 51 to shine flashlights around in. But if Nicolas Cage has his way, it will also involve going to a lot of different locations on Earth, not just the US, including ancient locations, which may include Egypt, which makes sense given the tie-ins between ancient civilizations, and their myths about having been founded by, or at least aided by, people from the stars. I wouldn’t be surprised if Babylonian temples get visited too. An alien theme would also fit with the phrase “life-altering” even more than the discovery of Atlantis, etc.
Of course, the movie may be about something else altogether.
May 24th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
it was definately the last entry in the book or else we would have seen some writing. But I’m not sure, I don’t think it will be Fountain of Youth (too similar to NT2), 9/11 or Area 51. Maybe something on WW2 and Pearl Harbor?
May 25th, 2008 at 12:38 am
Lost Colony
May 25th, 2008 at 1:11 am
I think the 3rd movie will have something to do with his family’s history or something. Because, I believe that the other two movies had something to do with his family’s history. Of course it still doesn’t limit what they will search for next but it will likely have something to do with his (Ben’s) ancestors.
May 25th, 2008 at 1:26 pm
I agree that NT3 won’t be about the fountain of youth, for several reasons–that’s the topic of the upcoming PoC movie; it would deal with a timeframe and characters too similar to those who built the city of gold in NT2 (the Olmecs)–native Americans/Mayans/Aztecs/etc.; and it would deal with water, which featured prominently in NT2.
Gerrit makes a good point, that since the President read the book, if all the relevant info on Area 51 is in it, he wouldn’t still be wondering about it, but it’s long been known that the “truth” about an “alien presence”, and UFOs in general, is officially off-limits to even the President, out of fear that he might spill the beans. The UFO topic is on a “need to know” basis, and it’s felt the President doesn’t need to know in order to do his job, and that the military has the situation “under conrol”. Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton both tried to find something out, and both say they were stonewalled. If they were telling the truth (and each time they talk about it, they sound believable, but then again, they’re politicians), then the NT president might still not know what he wants to know.
An Area 51 NT movie would tie in with Riley’s frequent pleading about the area–maybe they intend to make him more of the focus of the next movie.
NT3 doesn’t have to be about or necessarily contain references to the Gates family’s history, since the thing they’ll be pursuing, was the President’s idea.
It won’t be about 9/11–they wouldn’t go there. It would be too controversial, and that’s not what they’re after in these movies–they’re adventures, not generators of controversy. For the same reason and others, it won’t be about the Kennedy assassination, plus the fact that Oliver Stone already made “the” Kennedy assassination movie.
One reason it might not be about Area 51 or aliens in general, is it would be a subject not very much in keeping with the previous movies’ topics of early American history–the only relationship with the first two movies would be that it’s a national secret, but that might be enough to qualify it. Cage has been quoted saying NT3 should be considered “International Treasure”, so that’s another hint that opens up the possibility of an alien theme.
May 25th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
Oh my gosh!! I definately NEED to know what’s on page 47, AWESOME movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
May 25th, 2008 at 10:10 pm
I think it would be about the kennedy assassination or area51.In the end of”the rock”with Nick Cage.He says”do you want to know who really killed JFK.”I just thought it would tie together. p.s.I love nick cage movies
May 26th, 2008 at 3:50 am
When Gates snapped a picture of page 47 (right before they show you the number 47 on the page) I zoomed in x6 and read the document. How come no one else did this? Maybe this forum don’t allow spoilers so I’ll keep the content to myself for now.
May 26th, 2008 at 7:08 am
abagail is hot…..and incest is best when u put your sister to the test (i have a hot sister)
May 26th, 2008 at 8:12 am
With all the mention of WWII and “life altering”, I’m surprised no one mentioned the alleged Philidelphia Experiment of 1943. I know it may not have anything to do with “treasure”, but since the rumor is that the experiment accidentally opened a means of time-travel or teleportation, it could have revealed a peek of a life-altering future. Or perhaps it allowed someone passage to the past to experience history itself. Just a thought…
May 26th, 2008 at 8:14 am
Ha!…a peek of a life-altering 2012! =D
May 26th, 2008 at 11:59 am
let me first say that both the movies are really good and tell you a lot about the history of the country. That is really the back bone of the movies is the history. I agree that an area 51 movie would be cool and to see that some how the tie the pyramids to some type of compass for the aliens, but we have these type of movies.Plus that really doesn’t go with history. with so many other things out there like Noah’s ark or even the secrets of the underground railroad.Remember the NT president was arctics which maybe why we go with the pyramids. Whatever it is it has to be life altering and if it is on page 47 it would have to be early in history seeing how Coolidge found the piece of wood and then he flip back to page 47 it would have to be some time after that. Whatever it is I know it will be good and I would also like to see more of an international treasure maybe even dealing with the Chinese dynasty’s and the great wall of china and how it leads towards the pyramids and how there maybe some big Chinese treasure there that they stole from the Rome empire and then put there.
May 26th, 2008 at 5:58 pm
i heard that they were planning on doing some filming in the smithsonian, or at least using the smithsonian for something.
May 26th, 2008 at 6:00 pm
Lets Go, Ben
We are waiting, to go International
May 26th, 2008 at 9:34 pm
That would be SWEET if they had a Nat. Treasure 3. …..PAGE. 47 thats all im sayin
May 26th, 2008 at 9:35 pm
These actors/actresses are awesome!!!
May 27th, 2008 at 2:36 am
Possibly King Solomon…and his temple…page 47 could refer to dates he was in power 947 BC….the old seeing eye in the first movie above solomons temple could being in use…pretty sure it at some point in history held the ark of teh covenant and or the holy grail one…so possible plot lines there?
May 27th, 2008 at 6:02 am
What about the Oak Island Mystery?
May 27th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Personally all these sites talk about NT3 and how Nick Cage wants to go around the world and explore more areas. If he wants to do that then they should really make the next one or even if they think about making a fourth one Atlantis. An ancient civilization that had far advance technology then we ever could today, and in the NT2 at the end the conversation between Ben and the president. Keywords “Life changing.” So the third movie could be the start of the search for it but run into a few dead ends while also finding many more secert treasures along the way to find the hidden city of Atlantis. If you guys want to get more into more into the subject please feel free to email me at kswaterman@mindspring.com and label in National Treasure 3
May 27th, 2008 at 11:51 am
To the person that mentioned Mitch needed to find the treasure. IMO if you think about it…john Wilkes Boothe shot Lincoln…Mitch Wilkerson…hello….maybe that’s why his great great grandaddy knew the story and was passed down. Maybe he’s related to Boothe
May 27th, 2008 at 10:52 pm
i think it will have something to do with ww2, that seems to be the timeline. fromthe first national treasure (revolutionary war) to the second(civil war), it only makes sense to base it on ww2. as for the part were he makes reference to reading it in a book (j.s. hart) i believe he was talking about rhileys book, not the book of secrets
May 27th, 2008 at 11:18 pm
Anybody notice the number to locate the Book of Secrets in the Library of Congress, and the combination to the compartment holding it, was 23 47 86? Another 47 reference.
May 28th, 2008 at 1:18 am
PAGE 47 = the first clue to “THE FOUNTAIN OF YOUTH?”
May 28th, 2008 at 1:42 am
welp ….nevermind its not the fountain of youth…..im not gonna spoil it, on here, but if you want to know whats on pg. 47 go to the scene where he takes a second photo of the “book” (pg. 47) pause it, and zoom in. its rather clear what it says at the top but i cant see anything else on the page. can anyone else see the small writing? write me if you can. lexkywildcats@yahoo.com
May 28th, 2008 at 1:58 pm
All I care about is seeing more of Riley!
I wonder if there will be something developing between Riley and that girl from the end of the movie who asked for his autograph.
Hope so! :0)
May 28th, 2008 at 5:40 pm
After seeing the movie National Treasure 2 twice, I like many others have a theory about “Page 47″. We have a BIG CLUE as to what it could be. The President knows what it is and wants Ben Gates to look at it. Ben Gates replies to the President that it is “Life Altering”. So I think it is a secret about Nicola Tesla, and a “Time Machine” which would be the greatest treasure of all. It could be a product from the Montauk Experiment and the Philadelphia Experiment. The paradox of when to use it. If you could go back and kill Hitler, would you? What if the person that took his place put all out effort into the development of the Atomic Bomb and Germany got it first. All of Tesla’s secrets, what if he had found a way to erase time only to cause Mankind to restart itself.
Or what if page 47 refers to the 47 people that really control the world, the “Bildaberger’s” and the President is asking for Ben Gates, who comes from a family of Patriots to help him stop the group from their tyranny and misuse of power and put the control where it belongs, with the people.
Your Thoughts????
May 28th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
BTW “J.S Heart”–
When Ben says “I read it in a book”, he is referring to Riley’s Book about the Templar Treasure, which includes many different things than just the Templar treasure. If you watch this part over, after Ben says this, Riley looks away as if he is pretending that he doesn’t know…
Yeah National Treasure 3 will be awesome, just like ‘Indiana Jones and The Crystal Skull’ was.
May 28th, 2008 at 9:42 pm
So, having read over many of the posts, heres my hypothesis for page 47.
Euclid’s geometric problem #47 is a geometric equation reguarding triangles. It is a therom essential to geometry, trigenometry, science and mathematics.
The signifigance of page 47 could be a counter-argument to this rule, that is, proof of non-euclidean geometry. The movie made references to area 51, contact with aliens. As many know, traveling faster than the speed of light is impossible given our current understandings on the limits of astrophysics.
Euclidean geometry states that the sum of the interior angles of a triangle equals 180 degrees. Some non-euclidean theorists have proposed that, if the universe is curved, the sum of the angles can be either greater than, or less than 180. While one cannot travel faster than the speed of light, the posibility of “bending” the universe to travel between distances has been suggested. This would create an open for contact with alien life.
May 28th, 2008 at 10:35 pm
I think that The Fountain of Youth is a fabulous way to do the third book, however, as for the people who are talking about the theory that President Hoover built Hoover Dam over the fountain of youth. UM…..he is a president you no…and as such…wouldn’t he write that in the presidents book! And if he did….y would the current president be asking Gates to help find it??! Wouldn’t he already know where it was? Duh!
May 29th, 2008 at 1:02 am
National Treasure 3 Page 47 is going to be about landing on the moon. On the American flag they planted there is a clue…so Ben hijacks the space shuttle and goes to the moon to get the clue which then leads him to the pyramids and face on mars. He fly’s there and finds the remains of a lost colony who were the children of god. So he beats a couple alien drums and it opens a wormhole. He fly’s into the wormhole and meets god and has a beer with him.
That about sums up the 3rd movie. Can’t Wait!
May 29th, 2008 at 7:42 pm
it is atlantis cause the cop makes a joke about in the scene where the young cop comes in and tells the older fbi agent that I have new news on gates
May 30th, 2008 at 12:04 am
Did anyone notice that if you’re watching National Treasure 2 and as Ben is taking a picture of page 47, you can pause and see the picture on the phone. There’s just a lot of writing that’s too small, but one thing is clearly visible if you look really close. Above all the blurred writing, you can just make out “51″. Could National Treasure 3 possibly be about Area 51 and all the mysteries surrounding that? Who knows? We’ll have to wait and see!!!!!
May 30th, 2008 at 1:32 am
What ever it is thanks in advance! All of today’s problems were forgotten during the viewing. That is what entertainment is all about. This movie truly captures the magic of movie making. Indiana & Star Wars inspired several years of play as a child for me, and to hear my son say that he is a “treasure hunter” says volumes.
May 30th, 2008 at 1:42 am
Provoking imagination is what will make this a better world. Some writers, I believe, are responsible for inspiring the people that have discovered the coolest things we have today. Thanks George Lucas, had I never seen a skiff on Return of the Jedi, I might never have become interested in science. Or to Gene Roddenberry- the godfather of cell phones? To many more to mention, thank you all who are willing to go out on a limb and put imagination/thought on paper.
May 30th, 2008 at 1:44 am
AND lastly thanks to the people who come up with comments like comment #232- that had me rolling!
May 30th, 2008 at 1:44 am
and to my mom for taking me to the movies.
May 30th, 2008 at 1:45 am
and my dog who made a poop that looked like a spaceship
May 30th, 2008 at 1:46 am
and the guy who came up with gi joes
May 30th, 2008 at 1:48 am
And to the emperor for showing me that you can shoot lighting bolts out of your finger tips.
May 30th, 2008 at 1:57 am
Oh, by the way remember- any one of you that is reading this has the power to create anything you want- just close your eyes. I charge you with taking it one step further and manifest your thoughts into the universe, and actually produce it. ANYTHING CONCEIVED, CAN BE ACHEIVED-ANYTHING!!!!
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June 1st, 2008 at 7:56 pm
I absolutely love the first and second movie. I actually think that I liked them equally which is rare for most people because usuallly sequals are never as good as the first.
If a third movie is made I think that it can be just as good if it ties in to history just as much as the first and second and if it keeps is humor and suspensefullness. The history part needs to come off as real. Thats what makes those parts so good.
I remain hopeful about the thrid movie if one is made; however, I can’t help to think that it might not be as successful as the others. The third one has been built up so much to be really good with all the “page 47″ business that the story will also have to be really good.
I think it might be cool if they could make it about something that deals with the Myans. Theres a lot of stuff about them that is mysterious. Just a thought though. Theres a lot of stuff they could do with page 47.
ps- Two favorite parts of second movie were definitely the scene at the first resolute desk when they were opening it and when he was talking about honor and the country with the president when going through the tunnel. The tunnel scene was definitely really meaningful.
June 1st, 2008 at 8:01 pm
by the way don’t include Ian. Hes dumb and not interesting. Hahaha.
June 1st, 2008 at 9:14 pm
hi
June 1st, 2008 at 11:31 pm
I don’t think that it will have to do with the fountain of Youth, only because it’s being used too many times in the current Movie making business. For example… Pirates of the Caribbean 4 (Aqua de Vida) So, therefore movie makers aren’t going to go and try to copy the Pirates movie. That would make no sense what so ever.
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:44 am
1947 roswell incident, clues to aliens are origins, and hence 1947 the year 47 page fourty seven, biggest conspiracy to everyone not involved even the PRESIDENT, life altering could be an invasion forth coming, and the year 2012 all roled into one, american treasure……….LIFE ITSELF. thats all i’m gonna tell ya! cheerio fuckers!
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:26 am
Remember how Riley said something about the possibility of Apollo 11 never happening. This got me thinking about something not just international, but intersolarsystemal. What if when they landed on the moon, they had found traces of some alien civilization. What if Ben Gates realizes that all thats left of extra terrestrial life is a great treasure. This would be life altering, because it would show that there is more than just life on earth. He could find clues all over the world, or maybe just America, to find where this treasure was. Maybe they could introduce a new character by having Ben’s brother, who ran away as a kid and was never heard from. Maybe his brother noticed something in the clues of the first two treasures that Ben didn’t (Ben’s brother would be a genious too) that showed it was one of three great treasures that were part of some theory or myth. One treasure symbolizing the western half of the world (the city of gold), another symbolizing the eastern half of the world (the knights templar treasure (they were European)), and the final being “out of this world”. Although this sounds far-fetched, its more realistic than Antlantis. Ben and his brother could work really well together. Ben knowing all these history things and his brother being logically super smart. They could work together on incredibly difficult logic problems and clues. They could also do crazy things like they did in the first two movies (stealing the Declaration of Independence, kidnapping the president). Ian could play a role also, and maybe have a new villian. I just thought of this idea last night in thirty seconds, so its not refined and it probably wouldn’t work, but I just wanted to throw out another idea.
June 2nd, 2008 at 2:57 pm
I don’t think page 47 is any clue; it’s the information on the page.
No one has given thought to the Lost City of the Incas, which has been funded by Yale University in the past.
I don’t think Mitch is dead, and i think there is a connection to Lincoln’s assassination between his family and Gates’. I don’t think it will be in the 3rd movie tho. Mitch’s family’s name needs to be cleared, but i think our goverment killed Lincoln, but that’s getting off into another direction.
NT3 has to be somewhat of a puzzle and deal with gold.
So NT3 is either going to continue to go with the Lincoln assassination and the Queen’s letter. So it could be the American Revolution which involves England and since we won our independence it would explain the Queen’s siding with the confederates during the Civil War; keeping a nation divided. England did not want America to become independent from her. OR it’s going to head in the direction where the President is looking for answers to his own questions referring to his Yale / Archtect background. He knew BG could break any code who better to ask his opinion.
To the person who couldn’t figure out why the President HAD to have BG arrested; he commited a Federal crime AND no one is supposed to know about the BOOK. So was the President supposed to do give himself away???? He swears an oath on that Book when he becomes President of the US…according to the Free Masons.
Were u not following the movie?
June 2nd, 2008 at 3:31 pm
problem 47 of Euclid (which is also theorem 47 of Pythagoras) is the famous “pythagorean theorem”, that a^2 + b^2 = c^2.
The street layout of washington DC is largely based on this theorem.
I bet ya the third National Treasure will have to do with L’Enfant and the masonic origins of the capitol. It’ll come back to the templar themes of the original movie, but will more closely examine the role of these issues in our nations history
June 2nd, 2008 at 10:29 pm
Hi all,
This is what I came up with,
What is next for the sequel of National Treasure films:
Here are some ideas or maybe some input to possible clues or unknown quest for the possible films to be made.
Film 1: National Treasure – Egyptian Civilisation.
Film 2: National Treasure: Book of Secrets – Mayan Civilisation. Cibola – The City of Gold.
Which Civilisation or treasure do we want to seek or find or answers to unknown treasures?
Film 3: National Treasure: Jewels of the Pirates: Rubies, Emeralds, Pearls and Gold – Pirates of Penzance.
Film 4: National Treasure: Pink Diamonds – Harrapan Civilisation.
Film 5: National Treasure: Shangri-La Fountains of Youth or Pandora Box or Ark of the Covenant or the Dead Sea Scrolls, Holy Grail, Da Vinci Code, Area 51, Aliens from outer space – Roswell, Bermuda Triangle, A person is a treasure – heir to a throne but must remain quiet always; Treasures that is not meant to be found – secrets should always remain secret.
Film 6: National Treasure: The Unknown Continent (Lost Continent) – Mu in the Pacific Ocean. The idea of Mu first appeared in the works of the antiquarian Augustus Le Plongeon (1825–1908), a 19th century traveler and writer who conducted his own investigations of the Maya ruins in Yucatán. He announced that he had translated the ancient Mayan writings, which supposedly showed that the Maya of Yucatán were older than the later civilizations of Greece and Egypt, and additionally told the story of an even older continent of Mu, which had foundered in a similar fashion to Atlantis, with the survivors founding the Maya civilization.
Film 7: National Treasure: The Lake of Fortune. Almoravids civilisation – The mysteries of the Sahara
Film 8: National Treasure: The Tyrians Medallions mysteries. Phoenician civilization
Film 9: National Treasure: Treasure of the Lost City Drwarika.
Film 10: National Treasure: Emperor Fortune. Chinese, Prussian and Russian influences with St Basil Church holding the answers in Moscow and Red Square holding some clues in Beijing as well as the Great Wall of China holding some clues on the wall.
Film 11: National Treasure: The Unknown Treasures or Lost Treasure of Atlantis. Astrology holds the answers, matching the stars to find the direction and answer which could be map. The Star Charts.
Film 12: National Treasure: The Mystery of the Shield. Elamite Civilisation.
Film 13: National Treasure: The Hidden Medallions, Vatican City stolen medallions.
Film 14: National Treasure: The Manuscript (the paper scroll).
Film 15: National Treasure: The Rug of all Direction (piecing the rug together to acquire the basic direction but the direction is not the answer but the colour is the direction which illustrates the flag of a country and a famous monument of that country).
Film 16: National Treasure: The Mosaics. The Mosaics of all mosaics. From Museums to Churches to wall of buildings to schools piecing all the clues together to modern day to ancient times.
Film 16: National Treasure: Why not the Cradle of all Civilisations – Babylon Civilisation or Sumerian Civilisation or Nabataean Civilisation. The Birth of Civilisation.
Page 47 should be based on the clue being the clue. A clue within a clue within a clue. In chronological order of solving a clue and seeking another clue within another clue. Both clues must be added together to acquire another clue which will be the final clue to acquire the final answer to find the treasure which is National or International which is also National. I hope this makes sense. Finding the truths of all truths. The seeker of the Truth and Fortune. A treasure does not mean fortune.
I will add more later on and I hope this will help for now. Please be very adventurous, I have research a lot of Indiana Jones books, tin tin books, Agatha Christie books, Tomb raiders films and aventurous books.
June 2nd, 2008 at 11:19 pm
Hi all,
Some corrections and some more additions to the list.
Film 17: National Treasure: Why not the Cradle of all Civilisations – Babylon Civilisation or Sumerian Civilisation or Nabataean Civilisation. The Birth of Civilisation.
Film 18: National Treasure: The River of Wealth. Collecting the clues from various worldwide rivers – Amazon to the Nile to the Yangtze rivers which is piece together to give a bigger clue of a famous painting a river by Constables which leads to the place of the final clue of the treasure.
Film 19: National Treasure: The Mountains of Riches – Finding three clues – One is from the Rockies which is a natural mountain and the other is from Himilayas or the Andes which is also a natural mountain and the final clue is the building is like a mountain on a famous part of Germany, Bavaria – Neuschwanstein Castle which is enormous structure or building which is mountainous which leads to the final resting place in Paris in Louvre – the pyramids which is the final man made mountain.
Film 20: National Treasure: The Game of Chess: The squares represents coordinates for a map of the first clues and the final clue. The second and third clue is not final clue but leads to the final clue which eventually leads to the treasure. The squares also links to famous squares in the world – Trafalgar Square in London, Red Square in Moscow, Tiananmen Square in Beijing where there chess boards coordinates are but basically leading back to Times Square in New York in the USA for the final treasure.
Film 21: National Treasure: The Beneath Cache: The treasure is basically found in an extinct volcano where nobody knows where it. But in fact it is in the middle of the Atlantic ocean where lies the largest volcano where man cannot reach except for a submarine to acquire the first underwater clue which is hardest clue to acquire before going on man land clues on pont du nimes in France leading to bridges of bridges. A bridge does not mean a bridge – it also means connection to something and as well as leading another clue which eventually leads to the treasure.
Page 47 should be based on the clue being the clue. A clue within a clue within a clue. In chronological order of solving a clue and seeking another clue within another clue. Both clues must be added together to acquire another clue which will be the final clue to acquire the final answer to find the treasure which is National or International which is also National. I hope this makes sense. Finding the truths of all truths. The seeker of the Truth and Fortune. A treasure does not mean fortune. But justice is fortune and treasure. The Foundation of Justice is treasure and crystal clear fortune.
I will add more later on and I hope this will help for now. Please be very adventurous, I have research a lot of Indiana Jones books, tin tin books, Agatha Christie books, Tomb raiders films and read a lot of adventurous books which gave me some ideas to follow on and hopefully others can expand and acquire new ideas.
June 3rd, 2008 at 12:48 am
Hi everyone,
I got some interesting names they can put in their future National Treasure films.
Majority of my ideas came from films and books such as films and cartoons like Goonies, Pirates of the Caribbean, Tomb Raider, The Mysterious Cities of Gold, Scooby Doo, Tin Tin and Young Indiana Jones books, etc.
Here are following films titles that I came up with:
1. The Glass of Light.
The Glass of Light could be a famous lighthouse such as the ancient lighthouse – Lighthouse of Alexandria which give them a clue of where the hidden treasure is. Something do with Egyptian Civilisation and Greek Civilisation.
or
The Glass of Light could be could be a famous lighthouse in the America or in the Caribbean or in Bermuda where the Pirates treasure is hidden.
2. The Torch of Truth.
The Torch of Truth – Inside the small torch is where the hidden clues are where the treasure is. But everyone will be thinking it is something to do with Statue of Liberty but it is not. It is something else instead. The clues are will be something to do with the Greek civilisation.
3. The Maze of Answers.
The Maze of Answers – Will be clues of finding the hidden treasure but the clues will not be inside the maze but out of it instead like the Nazca Lines (Peru) – looking down from the sky. This will given the answer of what they are looking for.
I hope these titles will be any help to them in the future and I hope it will given them some inspiration of writing their story of the film.
June 3rd, 2008 at 10:27 am
Hi all,
It is me again!
Guest what I came up with more interesting ideas and for more quest adventures films and also for the National Treasures series of films as well.
Film 22: National Treasure: The Mysterious Equation: To find treasure is to understand Fermats Last Theorem which leads to another equation Einstein equation which eventually leads to another mathematical Linear equation eventually leads to some map coordinates which eventually leads to another clue. The clue is in the clue which eventually leads to an unknown riddle of a clue that eventually leads to secret treasure.
Film 23: National Treasure: Secret Jewel. The Jewel leads to other Jewels. The Fabrege egg has an inscription on the bottom of it which is engrave a secret message that leads to a famous chateau in France – where he has to find a drawing room – in that drawing room – he has to find secret chamber room in the drawing room. In the secret chamber lies a painting of a famous Spanish ship. But the famous Spanish ship does not exits anymore. That is the problem. The problem is solve where he has to go Spain to the capital Madrid in the museum. In the Museum – he find some relics of the old ship which give him some idea and final lead which leads to the Pena National Palace of Sintra in Portugal. He finds his Aladdin cave of wonders.
Come on everybody be more imaginative and come up more story lines and maybe short version of a script idea in the making.
I will have to think more ideas and more quest adventures and puzzling delights. I hope this will help and give some more enjoyable adventures.
June 3rd, 2008 at 11:50 am
i think page 47 will be about 9/11
June 3rd, 2008 at 12:21 pm
Hi everyone,
For my brother film title which he came up with.
Film 15: National Treasure: The Rug of all Direction (piecing the rug together to acquire the basic direction but the direction is not the answer but the colour is the direction which illustrates the flag of a country and a famous monument of that country).
This film title could have something do with American Indian history in America which lead them in Museums, Institutions, Churches, Places, Countryside Valleys and so on.
And also it could have the history on the American Civil War – Blue & Grey – North & South: United States of America (The “Union”) and the Confederate States of America (The “Confederacy”) . Where General Lee men hide the American Indian treasure.
Where they are piecing together the all clues to find where the hidden treasures is. But they are trying figure out where did General Lee men hide the American Indian treasure.
June 3rd, 2008 at 3:14 pm
hi all i think Altaff is on to something with this guess 4 the nt3 movie
Film 15: National Treasure: The Rug of all Direction (piecing the rug together to acquire the basic direction but the direction is not the answer but the colour is the direction which illustrates the flag of a country and a famous monument of that country).
in nt2 bens dad and mum are having an argument about a holiday and bens mum says to bens dad if it wasnt for that rug that you thought had specail stiching in it
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:01 pm
Well after reading the first 30 or so submissions I reckon Page 47 deals with the lost knowledge of Alchemy and how to turn ordinary substances into gold – as both films have dealt with gold in its natural state this would add a whole new spin on the greatest amount of treasure ever made.
sorry if someone else has already stated it – couldn’t be bothered to keep reading.
or maybe it could be the land that time forgot??
June 3rd, 2008 at 6:05 pm
ooooooh or maybe a “stargate” or teleporter/alien ship?
June 4th, 2008 at 2:06 am
I would love a thrid and maybe even a fourth National Treasure! As a history major, I think they’re a lot of fun. But contrary to the quote given above by Nick Cage, I think that part of the greatness of the movie stems from the story being based in American history. ( And I believe that’s what Ben Gates has his degree in)
I love these movies!
*To clarify, the reason why Ben says that he read about the letter from Queen Victoria letter in a book was not a clue about the sequal, it was a relating how he found the President’s book
June 4th, 2008 at 10:22 am
Wondering, Wilkinson wasn’t really trying to discredit Gates. He was just trying to get Gates in on the hunt for Cibola. I definitely agree that there’s a possibility that he’s a descendant of Booth, though. I think that he was really trying to UN-smear his family’s name, not smear Ben’s.
June 4th, 2008 at 10:27 am
And Altaff, why all the movies? I can understand wanting them to continue for a while, but if they make 22 movies or however many you want, Turteltaub will be dead before the last ones are made. As will the actors that play the main characters. I definitely agree with you that the movies should continue. They are amazing and my family and I love them.
June 4th, 2008 at 10:32 am
Oh, and I definitely agree with TXjigga. Area 51 is not the kind of thing I look for in a National Treasure movie. And besides, Ben already said in the movie that page 47 contained neither Area 51 nor the Kennedy Assassination. Also, I don’t think it’ll be the moon landing because they talked about it in the movie. Whatever it is, I think that we won’t have heard or thought of it yet.
June 4th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Yo, these movies ae a complete copy of indiana jones, but they were still good. That page 47 is gonna have some serious s”"t written all over it
They get kinda boring after a while, but they are pretty cool, so I’m expecting #3 in 2010 NO LATER or I will be POed
they should totaly look for the fountain of youth or something, that would be cool
They should also go to antarctica and stuff, or the moon!
June 4th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Found this from another relaible website sounds crediable.
And now Jim Hill has learned of a brief plot description has been making the rounds “which would supposedly send the Gates family off to Easter Island and beyond in search of Atlantis. More importantly, the pure, clean power source that was supposedly lost forever when this ancient civilization sank beneath the sea. Which — were it to be harnessed today — would immediately put an end to global warming. Not to mention making gas & oil obsolete.” Could this be the information hidden on Page 47 of the President’s book?
June 6th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Hi all,
To answer Astudent comment on “And Altaff, why all the movies? I can understand wanting them to continue for a while, but if they make 22 movies or however many you want, Turteltaub will be dead before the last ones are made. ”
I totally believe that one idea might not be the very answer to future National Treasures movies. I believe that sharing my thoughts with everyone on this blog would be most best on the various sketches of idea which could more probable to be the next National Treasure 3 or possible National Treasure movie in the making. Also which could be the most probable on page 47 on National Treasure 3.
I ask everyone to on this blog to pick the best three out of the twenty-two ideas to be the most probable for National Treasure 3 and National Treasure 4. And who knows one of my idea could be put into a scene of the next film or maybe National Treasure 4.
I have an interesting idea for everyone to think about. We should invite the producer and the film director of the National Treasure 3 film to see our thoughts, our ideas and our views. Who knows they might like what they see and they can comment on future scene. We can all be part of the making of the films. Definitely that will be interesting deabte. The blog that created a film, that would be an interesting idea to think about. Everyone on this blog has contribute to reasonable selective ideas and on reasonable selective thoughts – why not put into reality and put into action. Who knows we might be able to find and seek a next George Lucas or Steven Spielberg in the making – we need future insipring directors in the making like george Lucas for Star Wars with crystal clear vision on making a film. I know there are plenty of interest on the making of National Treasure 3. A lot of people are chatting about it because of the DVDs sales on various shops or stores around the world including HMV, Virgin stores, Zaavi and others.
Getting back to page 47 – I think it would be based on unknown civilisation which experts knew about it but vaguely chat about it as well as the idea of Area 51 in the film I think that would be totally old because of two films which mention it, which were Independence Day and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. To have the idea again would be overexposure as well as promotion of the Area 51. Do think Area 51 would be tourist attrraction for everyone to see that would be highly silly. Anyway I think it would be another kind of treasure hunt and another civilisation which we do not know or unaware of which was mention briefly on several archaelogical journal or something and also I think would be some element of American history involved to satisfy the american audience and also think to be fair to the rest of the world who are watching National Treasure films in various cinemas complexes throughout the world. I think there should be inclusion other civilisation in the film to make film have a wider appeal and also everyone can join this blog to share views or opinions from diffrent parts of the planet. Have their views, opinion or perception of the same film. That would be highly interesting to see this.
Also come on everybody be more imaginative, come up with more ideas with more input and come up more story lines and maybe short version of a script idea in the making.
I will have to think more ideas and more quest adventures and puzzling delights. I hope this will help and give some more enjoyable adventures.
June 6th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Hi, Hello, Bonjour, Ola, Ciao, Gutten Tag and greetings to everyone in whatever language you may come from,
I need some corrections here:
Getting back to page 47 – I think it would be based on unknown civilization which all of us do not know at all and which experts knew about it but vaguely chat about it. As well as the idea of Area 51 in the film I think that would be totally old concept for the movie because of two other famous Hollywood blockbuster films which have already mention Area 51 in the film, which were Independence Day and Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull. Also the Tomb Raiders III for PC and PlayStation game where Lara Croft infiltrates Area 51 has it as the theme in the game. To have the idea repeated again would be total overexposure as well as will be the promotion of the Area 51. Do think Area 51 would be tourist attraction after all this and for everyone to see that would be highly silly. Why do we all have to promote Area 51 but why not promote the significance of page 47 instead?
Anyway I think it would be another kind of treasure hunt and another civilization which we do not know or unaware of which was mention briefly on several archaeological journals or something else instead. Also I think would be some element of American history involved to satisfy the American audience and also think to be fair to the rest of the world who are watching National Treasure films in various cinemas complexes throughout the world. I think there should be inclusion another civilization in the film to make film have a much wider appeal and also everyone can join this blog to share views or opinions from different parts of the planet. Have their views, opinion or perception of the same film. That would be highly interesting to see this.
Another interesting question for you all think about is?
What part of American History do we think is suitable?
Also what Ancient Civilization will be most interesting and not repeated again?
The Egyptians Civilization has been done in National Treasure 1.
The Mayan Civilization has been done in National Treasure 2.
The ……………………………. Civilization will be done in National Treasure 3 which will be highly interesting and quite advanced.
I let you all ponder on this now…?
I will have to think more ideas and more quest adventures and puzzling delights. I hope this will help you all and give some more enjoyable adventures.
June 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
Hi, Hello, Bonjour, Ola, Ciao, Gutten Tag and greetings to everyone in whatever language you may come from,
What about the Atlantis Civilisation – it is mention in several Ancient Greek Texts, Scriptures and even in Religious Books – so I think this civilization does exist but nobody knows where it is really? Maybe someone out there knows real truth or a powerful Government out there is hidding the real truth on this but nobody knows at all I personally think. I always wonder about this? Is this place for real. Maybe there is a connection between the Bermuda Triangle and Atlantis. That will be highly interesting to see that combination of two mysterious places being solved.
Here are so more input about the existence of Atlantis which is highly interesting:
In Plato’s account, Atlantis, lying “beyond the Pillars of Heracles”, was a naval power that conquered many parts of Western Europe and Africa 9,000 years before the time of Solon, or approximately 9500 BC. After a failed attempt to invade Athens, Atlantis sank into the ocean “in a single day and night of misfortune”.
As a story embedded in Plato’s dialogues, Atlantis is generally seen as a myth created by Plato to illustrate his political theories. Although the function of the story of Atlantis seems clear to most scholars, they dispute whether and how much Plato’s account was inspired by older traditions. Some scholars argue Plato drew upon memories of past events such as the Thera eruption or the Trojan War, while others insist that he took inspiration from contemporary events like the destruction of Helike in 373 BC or the failed Athenian invasion of Sicily in 415–413 BC.
The possible existence of a genuine Atlantis was actively discussed throughout classical antiquity, but it was usually rejected and occasionally parodied by later authors. While little known during the Middle Ages, the story of Atlantis was rediscovered by Humanists in modern times. Plato’s description inspired the utopian works of several Renaissance writers, like Francis Bacon’s “New Atlantis”. Atlantis inspires today’s literature, from science fiction to comic books and films, its name having become a byword for any and all supposed prehistoric but advanced (and lost) civilizations.
Plato’s account is highly strong on the existence of Atlantis. Here are further proof on this account:
Plato’s dialogues Timaeus and Critias, written in 360 BC, contain the earliest known references to Atlantis. For unknown reasons, Plato never completed Critias; however, the scholar Benjamin Jowett, among others, argues that Plato originally planned a third dialogue titled Hermocrates. John V. Luce assumes that Plato — after describing the origin of the world and mankind in Timaeus as well as the allegorical perfect society of ancient Athens and its successful defense against an antagonistic Atlantis in Critias — would have made the strategy of the Greek civilization during their conflict with the Persians a subject of discussion in the Hermocrates. Plato introduced Atlantis in Timaeus:
For it is related in our records how once upon a time your State stayed the course of a mighty host, which, starting from a distant point in the Atlantic ocean, was insolently advancing to attack the whole of Europe, and Asia to boot. For the ocean there was at that time navigable; for in front of the mouth which you Greeks call, as you say, ‘the pillars of Heracles,’ there lay an island which was larger than Libya and Asia together; and it was possible for the travelers of that time to cross from it to the other islands, and from the islands to the whole of the continent over against them which encompasses that veritable ocean. For all that we have here, lying within the mouth of which we speak, is evidently a haven having a narrow entrance; but that yonder is a real ocean, and the land surrounding it may most rightly be called, in the fullest and truest sense, a continent. Now in this island of Atlantis there existed a confederation of kings, of great and marvelous power, which held sway over all the island, and over many other islands also and parts of the continent.
The four persons appearing in those two dialogues are the politicians Critias and Hermocrates as well as the philosophers Socrates and Timaeus, although only Critias speaks of Atlantis. While most likely all of these people actually lived, these dialogues as recorded may have been the invention of Plato. In his written works, Plato makes extensive use of the Socratic dialogues in order to discuss contrary positions within the context of a supposition.
The Timaeus begins with an introduction, followed by an account of the creations and structure of the universe and ancient civilizations. In the introduction, Socrates muses about the perfect society, described in Plato’s Republic, and wonders if he and his guests might recollect a story which exemplifies such a society. Critias mentions an allegedly historical tale that would make the perfect example, and follows by describing Atlantis as is recorded in the Critias. In his account, ancient Athens seems to represent the “perfect society” and Atlantis its opponent, representing the very antithesis of the “perfect” traits described in the Republic. Critias claims that his accounts of ancient Athens and Atlantis stem from a visit to Egypt by the Athenian lawgiver Solon in the 6th century BC. In Egypt, Solon met a priest of Sais, who translated the history of ancient Athens and Atlantis, recorded on papyri in Egyptian hieroglyphs, into Greek. According to Plutarch, Solon met with “Psenophis of Heliopolis, and Sonchis the Saite, the most learned of all the priests” (Life of Solon). Because of the 500+ year distance between Plutarch and the alleged event, and that this information is not provided by Plato in Timaeus and Critias, this identification is questionable.[original research?]
According to Critias, the Hellenic gods of old divided the land so that each god might own a lot; Poseidon was appropriately, and to his liking, bequeathed the island of Atlantis. The island was larger than Ancient Libya and Asia Minor combined, but it afterwards was sunk by an earthquake and became an impassable mud shoal, inhibiting travel to any part of the ocean. The Egyptians described Atlantis as an island comprising mostly mountains in the northern portions and along the shore, and encompassing a great plain of an oblong shape in the south “extending in one direction three thousand stadia [about 555 km; 345 mi], but across the center inland it was two thousand stadia [about 370 km; 230 mi].”
Fifty stadia (10 km; 6 mi) from the coast was a
mountain that was low on all sides…broke it off all round about
…
the central island itself was of a stade’s breadth [607 feet]
Here lived a native woman, Cleito, the daughter of Evenor and Leucippe, with whom Poseidon fell in love and who bore him five pairs of male twins. The eldest of these, Atlas, was made rightful king of the entire island and the ocean (called the Atlantic Ocean in honor of Atlas), and was given the mountain of his birth and the surrounding area as his fiefdom. Atlas’s twin Gadeirus or Eumelus in Greek, was given the extremity of the island towards the Pillars of Heracles. The other four pairs of twins — Ampheres and Evaemon, Mneseus and Autochthon, Elasippus and Mestor, and Azaes and Diaprepes — were also given “rule over many men, and a large territory.”
Poseidon carved the mountain where his love dwelt into a palace and enclosed it with three circular moats of increasing width, varying from one to three stadia and separated by rings of land proportional in size. The Atlanteans then built bridges northward from the mountain, making a route to the rest of the island. They dug a great canal to the sea, and alongside the bridges carved tunnels into the rings of rock so that ships could pass into the city around the mountain; they carved docks from the rock walls of the moats. Every passage to the city was guarded by gates and towers, and a wall surrounded each of the city’s rings. The walls were constructed of red, white and black rock quarried from the moats, and were covered with brass, tin and orichalcum (bronze or brass), respectively (Critias 116bc).
According to Critias, 9,000 years before his lifetime a war took place between those outside the Pillars of Hercules (generally thought to be the Strait of Gibraltar)[citation needed] and those who dwelt within them. The Atlanteans had conquered the parts of Libya within the columns of Heracles as far as Egypt and the European continent as far as Tyrrhenia, and subjected its people to slavery. The Athenians led an alliance of resistors against the Atlantean empire and as the alliance disintegrated, prevailed alone against the empire, liberating the occupied lands.
But at a later time there occurred portentous earthquakes and floods, and one grievous day and night befell them, when the whole body of your warriors was swallowed up by the earth, and the island of Atlantis in like manner was swallowed up by the sea and vanished; wherefore also the ocean at that spot has now become impassable and unsearchable, being blocked up by the shoal mud which the island created as it settled down.
For the action part in the film why not a jet ski with boat chase as one part of film scenes like the James Bond action scenes. That will be highly exhilirating and totally thrilling. Everybody like action adventurous where daredevil stunts and edge to the seat stuff. People do like this action adventures.
What is very interesting about the existence of Atlantis it is mention on several religious books or religious scriptures from Christianity to Islam to Hinduism to Judaism. They must be an elemnt of truth behind all this because it is mention several religious texts as a civilisation that did exist – the question is where did it exist because it was well before other civilisation that is the biggest mystery of mankind I think.
I let you all ponder on this one?
June 6th, 2008 at 10:02 pm
Could be…nobody knows. But National Treasure 3 could be based upon either Atlantis or US History or Area 51 treasure stuff.
I wanna see something cool for:
National Treasure 3: Page 47
June 7th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Hi all,
I was just remember when Ben Gates said in the film National Treasure 2 to the President of the United States on page 47 that is life-altering. What does he mean by life-altering? How does page 47 alters life? Is the fountain of the youth, ever-lasting age – a wonder cure for living longer I wonder?
What can alters life I wonder? Let us all think on that one – it is end clue of the film.
I let you all ponder on that
mmmm Life Altering! So much historical reference that can be life altering. Is it historical or medical or social – what can be so significance that is life altering.
mmmmmmmmmm Life Altering!
I am thinking now!
June 7th, 2008 at 10:12 am
Hi all,
I just forgot to mention this, I personally think that some secrets in the world should always remain secret no matter what. It is sometimes the most honourable things to do and the most honourable recognition of our humanity for today growing civilization.
It better that some things are not meant to be known?
That is been highly wise!1!!!!!!
Sometimes we all want seek the truth, but when we find the truth, is it best that the truth should always remain a secret in some cases I was thinking about it thoroughly, it is great that we have a sense of adventure but for humanity sake – but our some civilisation secrets should be kept as secret and lock away into the unknown realms of society no matter what.
I let you all ponder on that.
Some secrets should be secret no matter what.
June 7th, 2008 at 10:48 am
I thought both movies were excellent. I agree with the fact that the third movie should be about a global finding connecting us to something “Life-Altering”. I also found it very good writing in the script to hook viewers when they found the book of secrets. You can tell the emotion of each viewer wanted to know if there was anything on area 51 or what really happend with the assasination
June 7th, 2008 at 9:11 pm
pyramids
June 7th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
My theroy is based on three main sources: the interviews with Mr. Turteltaub, analysis of the scene where Ben reads the book of secrets, and review of the spirit of the film franchise.
First: Could all of the above people posting and speculating on Mr. T’s statement (“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.” ) be too deep? Could it be something as simple as a the prop department, as a joke, writing the plot outline to a star trek episode on those pages? In the above interview, it sounds like the producer was unsure of what page 47 was actually about in NT 2. It wasn’t until after the success of NT 2 that he began work on the new film–which he must now fabricate a legend around whatever was on page 47. Now, because of all the fam speculation, he must be true to the observations from NT 2. It might be something related to the president’s love of archetecture. It will be an actual “treasure” as we know it–not a fountain of youth or lost flying saucer.
Second: It has been mentioned above in analysis of the scene in the library of congress, that the time period of page 47 must fall between c1820 (approx 40-50 years after the book’s inception) and c1880 (the date on the entry regarding the desk).
Third: An “international” treasure would take the film away from the core values of the first two–that is national honor and patriotism. Ben Gates finds these treasures for the love of his family and the sacrifices his family gave to the founding of this country. It will not be a metaphysically based treasure, such as fountain of youth. The movies are fictional, but not totally fantastical.
I found three main events in Ameircan history throughout this 1820-1880 time period:
a. California gold rush–A definite source of a possible huge treasure.
b. The civil war: possible source of plot, but was used in NT 2. Would love to see gettysburg tied in–lots of old buildings and masonic memorial statues.
c. The founding of the Smithsonian instituation–this is my bet. it is a national icon, based in washington, DC. Very unique archetecture in the smithsonian castle. Lots and Lots of mysteries to be found in those halls (and maybe under them).
Anyhow, I love speculating on this. I am hoping I am not overexstimating and giving the writers and producers too much creativity with NT 2 to create such a sweet puzzle for the fans of the films to discover and solve.
June 8th, 2008 at 1:16 am
Has anyone considered the Mayan caldender saying the end of the world will be in 2012. Just a thought.
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
OK 2 3rds of u are pretty uninformed. or were buying popcorn and sodas when the movie started.
sheesh…. ok here goes
page 47 … who cares.
to continue the series successfully the theme will revolve around NATIONAL TREASURES.
National = U.S. Now my country was founded by and made by immigrants. thus the International aspect.
a world wide hunt from exotic locale to exoctic locale would make great viewing thus = more money, remember its for our enjoyment but the movie companies pocketbook.. duh.
area 51? roanoke island? give me a fuking break. try Gates hits up all of the ancient wonders of the world ( lost and remaining) some are underwater thus his naval dive experience come into play.
all these places have clues that were handed down from the start of recorded history(a life altering secret?)
and guess who built all these wonders ???? a mason or a architect… not a FREE mason i refer to a brick layer type mason. and how did the knowledge to build such wonders get passed on from FATHER TO SON, along down the lines thru history.
so several centuries of SECRETS passed on from builder to builder masters to apprentices. and clues of the type that the FREEMASONS used in the movies. as the freemasons would have had some pieces from history in thier keep and other countries cult type secret organizations have others, put them all together and u get the grandest secret of all… add the star trek comment and u have a new life and new civilizations. atlantis would be NEW to us but still have all of the ancient aspects as it was the original LOST civilization. so to find atlantis you need to travel to all of the wonders to uncover the clues left behind and passed on thru the mason trade. and having the clues inside of the ancient wonders makes great a storyline.
think like this
traps, riddles, cover ups, catholic church archives have the keys to unlocking the clues because if Atlantis is found that religion collapses and LIFE as we know it is ALTERED.
so the Church should play a big part and the Knight templar and the freemasons and so forth are secret orginizations because they would be crushed by the ‘Church” if thier secrets come to light ,
so both movies would tie into the third, and the more recent free masons would be the final keepers of the clues that lead to the clues that lead to th eclues that lead to the key that leads to the clue that leads to the New life and new civilization… all this after watching the movies and reading everyone comments.
make sense to anyone else?
and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…
and also if you are going to copy and plagerize some one elses writings at least change the vernacular a bit to sound more like a illiterate 3rd world person. copy and pasting from a text book is so 4th grade you insult your whole country.
and to the people that said pirate treasure should be the 3rd movie? when u gradeate the 5th grade and realize that the movie company already has a pirate thing going morons.
and lastly i am bored and my wife and i just watched both movies for the 3rd time. YES MITCH IS A RELATIVE OF JOHN WIKES BOOTH YOU IDJITS!
and the page number is just that a page number all you wanna be internet smart guys and your close minded 7 web page bookmarks all having to do with conspiracy and the illuminati(tomb raider 1 and 2 anyone?) please this is a blog about a line or two from a movie not your personal paranoid release page…. scary people these types? they are the type that believe anything you tell them, maybe you conspiracy addicts should turn your puny brains twords more useful conspiracies like the lead in pur kids toys or the price gouging of oil prices some thing REAL!
and to the other 1/3 rd of the poeple who posted here that are not completely devoid of gray matter in their skulls, some real good ideas and soem great comments to you all i apologise but i read EVERY post before i posted this and man I am amazed at the stupidity of internet people nowadays, used to be you could have a intelligent discussion about a topic and not get comments like WTF? NT3 FTW!!!!1!! christ on a stick PARENTS LIMIT YOUR KIDS EXPOSURE TO THE INTERNET PLEASE FOR THE SAKE OF OTHERS DONT LET YOUR KIDS JUST WEB SURF AND FOR GODS SAKE SOMEONE CODE A APPLICATION THAT KEEPS 13 AND UNDER FROM POSTING ON GROWN UP PAGES PLEASE ILL GIVE ALL MY MICROSOFT STOCK TO YOU IF YOU CODE THIS INTO THE NET!!!!
I am not sorry for my comments but i am sorry to see what has become more and more the norm on this site and others pure blatent retardisim!!!!!
maybe its all the lead in the toys our kids grow up with melting the synapses and causing mass stupidity in our populace!!!!! JK not insult to retarded people intende at least the mentally handicapped have a edge on the 2/3rds of the people who posted here ill give em that….
June 9th, 2008 at 4:10 am
national treasure has been a great movie and they should do number 3 and then finsh it with riley getting marryed with that woman.
June 9th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Hi all,
I am refering to the comments stated by me myself and I:
“and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…”
me myself and i Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
I am very sorry if I offended your rights and your views on this blog – but hold on here. It is merely a blog where people are free to state their views, their opinions and even their ideas about National Treasure 3 films within the law of respect of each other views and opinions in a harmonious environment.
It is known as the “Freedom of Speech” which all of us fight for and respect in this world.
Whether people on this blog read my comments or ideas or views or opinions that is up to them whether they agree or disagree. As long as it has been stated that what matters isn’t it?
I am very sorry that I have to counter your views and your arguments. Some of us on this blog have general interests on this film. It is like a book club where ones read thrilling suspense novel and you want to find out what happen next or who done it. This is basically same principle where ones interests or ones curiosity of what happen next. Everybody does it in today TV soap dramas
and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…
“and also if you are going to copy and plagerize some one elses writings at least change the vernacular a bit to sound more like a illiterate 3rd world person. copy and pasting from a text book is so 4th grade you insult your whole country.”
“I am not sorry for my comments but i am sorry to see what has become more and more the norm on this site and others pure blatant retardisim!!!!!”
Please correct your facts, your opinions and it is not blatant retardism , it is where ones shares their opinions and views over subject matter. If you do not appreciate it – the question I need to ask you? Why are you commentating?
Please note our views, our opinions, our ideas should not be judge like an essay for a school or high school. This is free blog to states ones opinions, ideas and views.
“illiterate 3rd world person” – The terminology of Third World Person is quite insulting to the least, it shows a level prejudice and ignorance to degree of not up to date with current terminologies and facts on this planet. Therefore it shows you are quite retarded with the current terminologies or International Socio-Economic definitions and facts.
The Third World Terminology is no longer in use – but the the terminology Developing World is in use to be Politically Correct.
In fact I am from the Developed World – to insult people on this blog shows a level of ignorance where people are from.
Anyway I am not going to waste my energy or time with this person views or opinions even thought they have a right to state their view but I think. But where I draw the line where they start character attacking people because of where they from in this world. That is highly wrong and quite offensive. I will always stand up for justice and respect for each other views and opinions whether we agree or not
To remind you (me myself and i) that this blog is about page 47 or National Treasure 1 or National Treasure 2 or ideas to relating to the film Ok.
Please refer your comments, your ideas or your references to the film only or refer to what other people comments about the film but not where they are from whether it is the Developed world or Developing World.
Please also note everyone has a right to state their views and opinions whether you agree or not. Furthermore Our earth is our home.
June 9th, 2008 at 9:26 am
ok all you bafoons are talking about an AMERICAN treasure what if the clues are all around the world and before the movie everyone thought that the treasure was from another country but what if we find out that the clues tell us otherwise
June 9th, 2008 at 9:49 am
ok me, myself and i, #1 yeah i agree a little bit with you about the idiots but just because you think its only 13 and under who are the idiots well i can truely disagree because i for one am 12 and i have met my fair share of idiotic adults! so you need to shut the fuck up and go wallow in your stuipid corner with your wife cause i guarantee that one-sixth of that one-third are kids 13 years and younger
oh one more thing if you don’t want to deal with ‘IDIOTS’ than don’t post on a site that anyony can access duh so i think that right now YOUR the fucking idiot
June 9th, 2008 at 1:06 pm
When Ben is taking a picture of page 47 with his phone when he is the library of congress… I paused it to see if I could read anything that was on it the page… the picture is too small to read anything but in the right hand corner of the phone screen is a big number 51…
So there you have it , the movie will be about area 51
June 9th, 2008 at 10:50 pm
Hi all,
I do sincerley apologize for repeating this comment again and I trying to state my case as well as avoiding confusion of any sort. So blog readers could see where the fault lies.
Some corrections here to the previous blog comments to prevent any confusions, misinterpretations, miscommunications and misunderstanding with crystal clear clarifications to the previous comments with additions to the comments.
I am refering to the comments stated by me myself and I:
me myself and i Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
“and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…”
This is my answer and my response to above comment:
I am very sorry if I offended your rights and your views on this blog – but hold on here. It is merely a blog where people are free to state their views, their opinions and even their ideas about National Treasure 3 films within the law of respect of each other views and opinions in a harmonious environment.
It is known as the “Freedom of Speech” which all of us fight for and respect in this world. I also thought the USA is “the Land of the Free”.
Whether people on this blog read my comments or ideas or views or opinions that is up to them whether they agree or disagree. As long as it has been stated that what matters isn’t it?
I am very sorry that I have to counter your views and your arguments. Some of us on this blog have general interests on this film. It is like a book club where ones read thrilling suspense or Agatha Christie Crime novels and you want to find out what happen next or who done it. This is basically same principle where ones interests or ones curiosity of what happen next or who did what and etc. Everybody does it in today TV soap dramas or famous soap dramas like Dallas or Dynasty or St elsewhere or etc. For example who shot Jr Ewing in Dallas – a famous TV soap in the late 80’s or what happen to Fallon in Dynasty – a famous TV soap in the late 80’s and etc.
The insulting comments shown below:
me myself and i Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
“and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…”
“and also if you are going to copy and plagerize some one elses writings at least change the vernacular a bit to sound more like a illiterate 3rd world person. copy and pasting from a text book is so 4th grade you insult your whole country.”
“I am not sorry for my comments but i am sorry to see what has become more and more the norm on this site and others pure blatant retardisim!!!!!”
My answer to his or her blog response shown below:
Please correct your facts, your opinions (me myself and i) and it is not blatant retardism , it is where ones shares their opinions and views over subject matter. If you do not appreciate it – the question I need to ask you? Why are you commentating?
Please note our views, our opinions, our ideas should not be judge like an essay for a school or high school. This is free blog to states ones opinions, ideas and views. This is not a school examination but a blog to express ones opinions. By the way I am not illiterate – I found the comment “illiterate 3rd world person” highly insulting and showing considerate amount of disrespect for others points of view.
“illiterate 3rd world person” – The terminology of Third World Person is quite insulting to the least, it shows a level prejudice – maybe racism – not sure about it – needs serious anaytical literacy devices to analyse comments and also shows complete ignorance to degree of not up to date with current terminologies and facts on this planet. Therefore it shows you are quite retarded with the current terminologies or International Socio-Economic definitions and facts.
The Third World Terminology is no longer in use – but the the terminology Developing World is in use to be Politically Correct.
In fact I am from the Developed World – to insult people on this blog shows a level of ignorance where people are from.
Anyway I am not going to waste my energy or time with this person views or opinions even thought they have a right to state their view but I think. I do not need to lower my integrity with people who believe think they can insults ones commenmts on the blog showing a complete of considerations for others and respect for others as well whatever age or discipline. But where I sincerely draw the line where they start character attacking people because of where they from in this world. That is highly wrong and quite offensive. I will always stand up for justice and respect for each other views and opinions whether we agree or not
To remind you (me myself and i) that this blog is about page 47 or National Treasure 1 or National Treasure 2 or ideas to relating to the film OK.
Please refer your comments, your ideas or your references to the film only or refer to what other people comments about the film but not where they are from whether it is the Developed World or Developing World.
Please also note everyone has a right to state their views and opinions whether you agree or not. This is refering to comments by (me myself and i). Furthermore Our Earth is our Home. We are a Globalised Society face the reality of it.
June 9th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
Hi all,
I do sincerley apologize for repeating this comment again and I trying to state my case as well as avoiding confusion of any sort. So blog readers could see where the fault lies.
Some corrections here to the previous blog comments to prevent any confusions, misinterpretations, miscommunications and misunderstanding with crystal clear clarifications to the previous comments with additions to the comments.
I am refering to the comments stated by me myself and I:
me myself and i Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
“and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…”
This is my answer and my response to above comment:
I am very sorry if I offended your rights and your views on this blog – but hold on here. It is merely a blog where people are free to state their views, their opinions and even their ideas about National Treasure 3 films within the law of respect of each other views and opinions in a harmonious environment.
It is known as the “Freedom of Speech” which all of us fight for and respect in this world. I also thought the USA is “the Land of the Free”.
Whether people on this blog read my comments or ideas or views or opinions that is up to them whether they agree or disagree. As long as it has been stated that what matters isn’t it?
I am very sorry that I have to counter your views and your arguments. Some of us on this blog have general interests on this film. It is like a book club where ones read thrilling suspense or Agatha Christie Crime novels and you want to find out what happen next or who done it. This is basically same principle where ones interests or ones curiosity of what happen next or who did what and etc. Everybody does it in today TV soap dramas or famous soap dramas like Dallas or Dynasty or St elsewhere or etc. For example who shot Jr Ewing in Dallas – a famous TV soap in the late 80’s or what happen to Fallon in Dynasty – a famous TV soap in the late 80’s and etc.
The insulting comments shown below:
me myself and i Says:
June 8th, 2008 at 2:37 am
“and please Altaff this blog isnt about your ideas for a movie its to discuss page 47 please dont reply because no one will read past the first 3 sentences u post…”
“and also if you are going to copy and plagerize some one elses writings at least change the vernacular a bit to sound more like a illiterate 3rd world person. copy and pasting from a text book is so 4th grade you insult your whole country.”
“I am not sorry for my comments but i am sorry to see what has become more and more the norm on this site and others pure blatant retardisim!!!!!”
My answer to his or her blog response shown below:
Please correct your facts, your opinions (me myself and i) and it is not blatant retardism , it is where ones shares their opinions and views over subject matter. If you do not appreciate it – the question I need to ask you? Why are you commentating? Why are you expressing yourself on the blog? Lastly, what gives you the right to called people retarded when you might be completely retarded yourself when expressing disrespectful thoughts to everyone.
Please note our views, our opinions, our ideas should not be judge like an essay for a school or high school. This is free blog to states ones opinions, ideas and views. This is not a school examination but a blog to express ones opinions. By the way I am not illiterate – I found the comment “illiterate 3rd world person” highly insulting and showing considerate amount of disrespect for others points of view.
“illiterate 3rd world person” – The terminology of Third World Person is quite insulting to the least, it shows a level prejudice – maybe racism – not sure about it – needs serious anaytical literacy devices to analyse comments and also shows complete ignorance to degree of not up to date with current terminologies and facts on this planet. Therefore it shows you are quite retarded with the current terminologies or International Socio-Economic definitions and facts.
The Third World Terminology is no longer in use – but the the terminology Developing World is in use to be Politically Correct.
In fact I am from the Developed World – to insult people on this blog shows a level of ignorance where people are from.
Anyway I am not going to waste my energy or time with this person views or opinions even thought they have a right to state their view but I think. I do not need to lower my integrity with people who believe think they can insults ones commenmts on the blog showing a complete lack of considerations for others and a lack of respect for others as well whatever age or discipline. But where I sincerely draw the line where they start character attacking people because of where they from in this world. That is highly wrong and quite offensive. I will always stand up for justice and respect for each other views and opinions whether we agree or not
To remind you (me myself and i) that this blog is about page 47 or National Treasure 1 or National Treasure 2 or ideas to relating to the film OK.
Please refer your comments, your ideas or your references to the film only or refer to what other people comments about the film but not where they are from whether it is the Developed World or Developing World.
Please also note everyone has a right to state their views and opinions whether you agree or not. This is refering to comments by (me myself and i). Furthermore Our Earth is our Home. We are a Globalised Society face the reality of it.
June 10th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
dummies. i cant believe i wasted my time reading all this crap.
June 10th, 2008 at 9:33 pm
Loved the first two movies. But Nick, uh, let’s NOT make it “international treasure”. I know everyone wants the $$$$ by making the movie as accessible to other countries as possible, but let’s not ruin one of the few Hollywood movie franchises that RESPECTS our American History without apologizing for it.
June 10th, 2008 at 11:15 pm
Hi,
It’s been great to see the different point of view of the future film National Treasure – Page 47.
I am loving every blog written down.
It’s been very fascinating to read the blogs and interesting opinions of the future film.
Everyone have to ignore user 295 what Brek says.
He or She is only jealous what other bloggers written down.
By the way keep up the good work of blogging about Page 47.
Bye.
June 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
it could be about anything
the writers wanted us to be boggled and made it like this on purpose.
This is certain:
fountain of youth is out
it will probably be about the pyramids or atlantis or somthing like that
they want this to be fun for the WHOLE family
they want kids to enkoy it and they want as much money as possible
June 11th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
It is also obvious that they are making another movie because of all the fans. They would get a lot of money for it.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:16 pm
Another thing.
June 11th, 2008 at 8:17 pm
the president would not have asked about pg. 47 with Gates unless it is a code for something
June 12th, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Wouldn’t it be funny if, during the shooting of one of these films, they actually did find treasure and discover that a commonly known myth is actually true! Would be ironic indeed.
June 12th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
you people are so fucking stupid it is unreal first off the number 47 couldnot possibly be a clue be cause all the presidents wrote in a specific secret and they clearly didnt skip pages second of all they wouldnt do the fountin of youth becausee there isnt enough history behind it and there is going to be another pirates movie about that it could possibly be area fifty one because its a huge secret in the us but that usually references aliens and that would make a sci fi movie and finding aliens isnt a great treasure it has to be an american treasure because ben gate was an american history major if you recall the first movie and the fact that he said life altering does stirr up a bunch of opininos and theries but please lets keep them logical and something the movie makers can pull out some clues to finding a treasure after all it is called national treasure
June 13th, 2008 at 12:45 am
As many of you have stated, I too am interested in finding out what’s on page 47. But I also have a recommendation for another story plot for Ben and his colleagues to venture out on. If you read the article, it says that Nicolas Cage would like to go international. I believe that would be a good idea. And I may know a way to keep that related to the U.S. Has anyone ever heard of General Tomoyuki Yamashita? He is recorded in history for trying in vain to repel U.S. forces retaking the philippines during the war in the pacific. However, the Japanese remember him for his purported “treasure”. I read about it on another website. It is rumored to be a vast amount of gold, gems, and currency looted from various Asian countries during the war. Apparently, Yamashita ordered some of his soldiers to stash the treasure throughout various areas of the philippines during the closing stages of the war. To this day no one has been able to find it. I just think that would make an interesting storyline.
June 13th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
national treasure 3 needs to come out now. ben and abigail need to get married already. they been going round and round. i mean he got kicked out and she made him move back in. that means something dont u think.
June 14th, 2008 at 12:08 am
ok lets clear this up when he is taking a picture of page 47 and the number 51 appears in the bottom corner if you notice when he moves his phone the 51 is apart of his screen on his phone not on the paper so more then likely that is the picture number not the number on the paper like on my phone it says in the bottom corner what picture number im on so if i have 50 pics on my phn and im taking a new one 51 will show in the bottom so I think that can be the same deal with his phone in the movie and its not really a clue but who knows I could be wrong!! But I really hope it isnt about area 51 cuz that aint no treasure and therefor the movie title shouldnt be national treasure
June 14th, 2008 at 2:11 am
The movies are “National Treasure” after all, and not “National – Aliens in the Attic – Treasure” or “National – There’s an Area of the Atlantic Ocean That Doesn’t Contain Any – Treasure.
Nope, the next movie has to be about a treasure in the United States – but the clues can be scattered all around the world. The President specifically asked Ben to look at “Page 47,” a page number he knew by heart because of the unique nature of the information on that page.
It is the most unique of pages because, while every other page of the Presidents’ book contains “the truth” about events rumored or speculated about publically, page 47 contains information hinting at an event that no President in history has ever been sure ever occurred, let alone what “the truth” of the matter is or was. And it has to do with a treasure of immense value, if the rumor committed to the Presidents’ book is true.
But the problem is that the President who wrote the account was obviously aware that the Presidents’ book could fall into the wrong hands (there was a war on, possibly The War of 1812 or the Civil War), and that the White House mightn’t be safe. So he wrote in a style that was part Nostradamus and part Yogi Berra. No wait, that’s not what I meant to say. I meant to say, “and part Michelangelo,” abundantly clear if you were privy to its meaning (surely!), but otherwise totally nonsense. Except, and this is what had caused many Presidents to fear that the matter was extremely important even if they knew nothing of its meaning, the words “Gold” and “Ship of State” were sprinkled throughout the text.
Surely, if the President hadn’t thought it important he wouldn’t have entered the text in the Presidents’ book in the first place, and if it were so important that it had to be written in such an obtuse manner, it must have been very important, and the fear of every President since was that it might contain clues to something of immense current importance as well. “Gold” and “Ship of State” are not words that any President wants to see connected even in a remote way.
Written at a time when the nation still was on the gold standard, many Presidents had wondered whether the references implied a question of solvency; others wondered if it hinted at a mountain of gold somewhere that would threaten to debase the currency, and one President even abolished the gold standard after pondering the matter for a number of years. And yet, no one really knew the meaning of what was written on Page 47, and certainly, no President since had wished a public inquiry or even a private one that still might leak and threaten the country.
And that is why the President had asked Ben to look at it, first to try to understand what was written on Page 47, and then to determine its current importance. And, there was a problem; for 200 years, every President since Washington had kept the book in his personal possession, but the current President had made the mistake of trusting the FBI to create a secret and secure storage place in the Library of Congress.
Now, some FBI investigations seemed just a little broader than necessary. The President almost forgot the first reference to gold in a briefing by the Director about a possible terrorist link to gold smuggling. But, when two month later, the Director handed him a briefing folder at the weekly intelligence meeting, the President casually opened it – something he didn’t usually do, preferring that the Director brief him verbally, touching only on the high spots of important investigations – he was briefly taken aback when he noticed one investigation that was code-named “Ship of State.” His brow furrowed briefly as he tried to recall why the term had a familiar ring to a phrase not often used today, then his shoulders tightened imperceptively when he remembered Page 47.
The President was not a man who believed in coincidences or curious serendipity, and he realized almost immediately that a matter that had variously amused, bedeviled or tickled the curiosity of every President since the middle of the 19th century could no longer remain merely a curiosity to be passed on for the next President to ponder as nearly every President of the last 150 years had done. Like it or not, the stakes on this President’s watch had just been raised; even if the curiously-named investigation was merely a coincidence, even the remote possibility that it wasn’t merely a coincidence couldn’t be ignored.
And two weeks later, at a bash at Monticello, standing in a tunnel not used for over 200 years under the home of one of the first Presidents, the President once again observed that he didn’t believe in coincidence.
Here before him stood a man who had just kidnapped him for the sole purpose of asking to look at a picture in a book no President had ever acknowledged even existed, a book that two months earlier he would have sworn had never been seen by anyone but a serving President, and the man had already admitted burgling the Oval Office! As he considered the situation, two thoughts formed: the man was sincere and honest, honorable even, and still believed in the sanctity of the Office of the President of the United States, rare enough in these times, and so he gave Ben the location and combination to access the book, then he voiced his second thought, “Take a look at Page 47.”
June 14th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
hi all when they do make the third instalment the thing that i hope fore is that they have the same actors in it because now im hooked in to the actors…… THis movie series rocks
June 14th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
i loved it i hope they will meke a 3rd one and anyway i have just finished workin on knowing it didnt look like he was gonna quit acting
June 15th, 2008 at 5:20 am
Page 47 revealed:
It explains why Millard Fillmore strongly supported the Compromise of 1850 and the Fugitive Slave Act. Fillmore was one of the strongest and most vocal opponents of Lincoln and if you think about it, having a cast of characters like Stephen Douglas, Henry Clay, and Daniel Webster. An otherwise bland and non-descript President sets the stage and essentially provokes the Civil War. Ties in the Lincoln saga, brings forth a more interesting background, and one of our true national treasures was the eventual abolition of slavery.
June 16th, 2008 at 9:26 am
I saw that some people have written that they could see the number 51 written on page 47 in NT 2, maybe the story is a clue or secret about a 51st state…
June 17th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Um, guys, I don’t think Page 47 could be involving Area 51, because when Ben, Riley, and Abigail are flipping through the book together, and Ben’s looking for the picture of the other half of the plank, Riley gets all excited at one of the passing pages and says “Ooh, ooh! Area 51!” or something to that effect, and Ben passes it, telling Riley to concentrate on finding the picture. I don’t think the filmmakers would have Area 51 openly referenced only to bring it back as Page 47’s subject. But that’s just me.
June 17th, 2008 at 5:04 pm
None of you has any historical sense or knowledge. Anyone who thinks this movie is any good should go read about the olmec. The olmec remains found have been even farther south than the Aztec (Mexico City). Also the Olmec were poor migrant farmers. Their crops required a warm humid environment such as around the equator. They would never have traveled to such an arid place like the black hills let alone build a city of gold in them. Finally Ben Gate’s mom goes to the top of a temple near an alter. Ben says its is where they slit the victims throat and cut out their heart this is absolutly incorrect. The idea of human sacrifice did not come for another two hundred years during the mayan empire.
Also the writers probably haven’t even decided on what pg 47 means. Production companies hire dozens of people to read blogs like these to come up with ideas for the movies
June 18th, 2008 at 2:56 am
I think maybe they’ll go with atlantis for the third one, as you may be able to recall gates is a great diver. If the writers of the movie had them go in search of the fountain of youth it would be really hard to make the movie believable. i dont think they would all go near the fountain and become young again. that might be a bit too stupid.
June 19th, 2008 at 12:54 am
Just a little note. Everyone who references area 51, I think you have something. Roswell happened in 1947. Just food for thought.
June 19th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
i believe john wilkes booth was the great great grandfather of mitch wilkinson…thats why he wanted to give something to his families name…hence finding the treasure john wilkes booth asked gates to decipher at the beginning of the film!!! i believe gates(cage) new that from what was on page 47 and hence why the president was suprised when cage said that mitch should also be credited with the find of the city of gold!!! knowing that mitch was trying to frame the gates family in to the killing of lincoln when mitch really new it was his family!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 8:25 pm
Hi all,
It seems very interesting we are all debating the level of advancement of the Olmec Civilisation now! Excuse me Gregg91!!!!!!!!
To remind everyone on this blog what you have mention on June 17th, 2008 at 5:04 pm.
Gregg91 quote:
None of you has any historical sense or knowledge. Anyone who thinks this movie is any good should go read about the olmec.
I think I can counter your argument here, please bear in the mind that the film National Treasure was made in a way that it would caputure a massive audience and maybe flourish some influence and some interest in areas of a new subject matter that people would overlook or would not be interested in at all.
Now everyone has some level of interest whether it is basic or high level or quite specialise on the subject matter. The film has create a level of interest now and which is absolutely good.
At least all of us can communicate with each other with a high regard of respect of each other opinions whether it is high level or low level knowledge of the subject matter. That is absolutely good and brilliant that we all care and share our thoughts, our ideas, our interests, our perceptions, our knowledge, our viewpoints, our suggestions, our criticisms, our complements or our complaints about the films National Treasure 1 and National Treasure 2 – Book of Secrets.
You should also bear in mind that everyone has different wavelengths and does not have the same level of wavelength like you.
Some of us can argue the case and show a level of interest about the film. But I personally think everyone has different speeds of the learning curve and it takes time for everyone to really appreciate the real value of the film by acquiring some level of knowledge which they were unable acquire in the first place due to various social backgrounds or social barriers or unable to access information or unable access knowledge they did not know at all in the first place.
Now the word “Olmec” is in everyone vocabulary globally, if they want to find out more about that civilisation – they have a very good starting reference or starting point to further ones interest on a new subject matter which some people did not know anything about. Also some people will gain some sort of very, very basic and brief understanding about the existence of that civilisation which some people might not know at all and also appreciate the contribution to world civilisation like the word “End Zone” in American Football which can from that Civilisation – if some of you did not know at all. My favourite American Football team is the Dallas Cowboys by the way.
Also here are some brief information and some references about the word Olmec and the Olmec Civilisation.
Olmec were an ancient Pre-Columbian people living in the lowlands of South-Central of Mexico – in the areas of the States of Veracruz and Tabasco on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec – the Gulf Coast of Mexico from about 1200 to 400 BC. Best known today, however, are the Mayas, whose city states were established from around 250 BC, and the Aztecs, whose empire lasted from around AD 1300 until the coming of the Spanish. But theirs were just two of a number of Mesoamerican civilisations that flourished for periods between the third century BC and the sixteenth century AD. Several other peoples, notably the Zapotecs, the Teotihuacanos and the Toltecs, came to prominence for periods in between. And although they were not Mesoamericans (for their way of life was quite different), the Incas in Peru, whose civilisation rose and fell between AD 1200 and 1532.
The pre-Spanish peoples of Mesoamerica had many things in common. Rather like the peoples of modern Europe, they spoke different languages, but had broadly similar cultures. They worshipped many of the same gods, but gave them different names. They all used digging sticks, ate maize (corn – Europe term) and beans, respected the number 13 and practised human sacrifice. Interestingly, although it is known that they developed the wheel as a toy, for some reason they did not adapt it for other purposes. please note that the wheel is one man’s greatest invention or innovation in the world which revolutionalise everything in some kind of way.
Let me get back to the argument now to page 47 – why page 47 – why pages 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,… etc.
They must other significant events that has occur and has been noted the Personalised President Private notebook diary of world significant or national significant events that effected the world in some kind of way and etc.
Is this book for real? — I wonder?????
Let question the validity of this book?
Does it really exist? Is it a myth like Atlantis and etc
Let you all ponder on that one!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 8:29 pm
Hi all,
It seems very interesting we are all debating the level of advancement of the Olmec Civilisation now! Excuse me Gregg91!!!!!!!!
To remind everyone on this blog what you have mention on June 17th, 2008 at 5:04 pm.
Gregg91 quote:
None of you has any historical sense or knowledge. Anyone who thinks this movie is any good should go read about the olmec.
I think I can counter your argument here, please bear in the mind that the film National Treasure was made in a way that it would caputure a massive audience and maybe flourish some influence and some interest in areas of a new subject matter that people would overlook or would not be interested in at all.
Now everyone has some level of interest whether it is basic or high level or quite specialise on the subject matter. The film has create a level of interest now and which is absolutely good.
At least all of us can communicate with each other with a high regard of respect of each other opinions whether it is high level or low level knowledge of the subject matter. That is absolutely good and brilliant that we all care and share our thoughts, our ideas, our interests, our perceptions, our knowledge, our viewpoints, our suggestions, our criticisms, our complements or our complaints about the films National Treasure 1 and National Treasure 2 – Book of Secrets.
You should also bear in mind that everyone has different wavelengths and does not have the same level of wavelength like you.
Some of us can argue the case and show a level of interest about the film. But I personally think everyone has different speeds of the learning curve and it takes time for everyone to really appreciate the real value of the film by acquiring some level of knowledge which they were unable acquire in the first place due to various social backgrounds or social barriers or unable to access information or unable access knowledge they did not know at all in the first place.
Now the word “Olmec” is in everyone vocabulary globally, if they want to find out more about that civilisation – they have a very good starting reference or starting point to further ones interest on a new subject matter which some people did not know anything about. Also some people will gain some sort of very, very basic and brief understanding about the existence of that civilisation which some people might not know at all and also appreciate the contribution to world civilisation like the word “End Zone” in American Football which can from that Civilisation – if some of you did not know at all. My favourite American Football team is the Dallas Cowboys by the way.
Also here are some brief information and some references about the word Olmec and the Olmec Civilisation.
Olmec were an ancient Pre-Columbian people living in the lowlands of South-Central of Mexico – in the areas of the States of Veracruz and Tabasco on the Isthmus of Tehuantepec – the Gulf Coast of Mexico from about 1200 to 400 BC. Best known today, however, are the Mayas, whose city states were established from around 250 BC, and the Aztecs, whose empire lasted from around AD 1300 until the coming of the Spanish. But theirs were just two of a number of Mesoamerican civilisations that flourished for periods between the third century BC and the sixteenth century AD. Several other peoples, notably the Zapotecs, the Teotihuacanos and the Toltecs, came to prominence for periods in between. And although they were not Mesoamericans (for their way of life was quite different), the Incas in Peru, whose civilisation rose and fell between AD 1200 and 1532.
The pre-Spanish peoples of Mesoamerica had many things in common. Rather like the peoples of modern Europe, they spoke different languages, but had broadly similar cultures. They worshipped many of the same gods, but gave them different names. They all used digging sticks, ate maize (corn – Europe term) and beans, respected the number 13 and practised human sacrifice. Interestingly, although it is known that they developed the wheel as a toy, for some reason they did not adapt it for other purposes. please note that the wheel is one man’s greatest invention or innovation in the world which revolutionalise everything in some kind of way.
Let me get back to the argument now to page 47 – why page 47 – why not pages 48, 49, 50, 51, 52, 53, 54, 55,… etc.
They must other significant events that has occur and has been noted the Personalised President Private notebook diary of world significant or national significant events that effected the world in some kind of way and etc.
Is this book for real? — I wonder?????
Let question the validity of this book?
Does it really exist? Is it a myth like Atlantis and etc
Let you all ponder on that one!!!!!!!
June 21st, 2008 at 9:02 pm
gregg91 since you are so insightful on history i am willing to send to on a treasure hunt of your own. I went great lengths to find someone to tell me what I need to know but I really can’t depend on anyone for a professional opinon recently I took a large dump and it had what appeared to be lumps of corn all over it ,the thing is I don’t eat corn and it is a great mystery to me so I was wondering what an experienced asshole would know it could be from?
June 21st, 2008 at 11:05 pm
look forward to seeing this movie…for, for so long time has had been in circle in which colors have been place to perhape cause a momentary set of confusion, tho’ try did i to and well provail, that all in time well be defeated by me thee angel Blue’, and God, & lets not forget the son of God Christ…i just want to write you a poem for i am a unknown Poet, for now…plus i think nick cage is very handsome…and a roman catholic…Peace and Love always…frann
June 23rd, 2008 at 4:41 pm
Page 47 is Dan Brown and the Holy Grail
June 24th, 2008 at 1:28 am
Even though it took awhile, i just watched National Treasure 2.
I enjoyed both tremendously and definately think that there should be a 3rd movie on page 47.
The writers did a great job leaving the topic of page 47 up for grabs. but the idea they were talking about where the next movie doesn’t even have to be about page 47, I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!!!!!!!
the next movie has to be on page 47, otherwise it will most likely be a failure due to people asking “what the hell?”
p.s- Too bad these are just movies, most of the history ni them are true, but too bad that the treasures are not real. The way that the writers and Cage are taking true history to create myth stories is incredible
June 24th, 2008 at 3:22 am
The second movie was wonderful…I love it when Ben goes into his “Jack Bauer” mode…
Helen Mirren was wonderful (as always) and everything was just great…
June 24th, 2008 at 4:47 am
I think all the movies of national treasure have been brilliant so far
and i am so excited about the 3rd one coming out as i know its going to be brilliant
Jerry – the producer of this movie also done pirates of the caribbean and i loved them all
so from experience from them movies and the first two national treasures i know! its going to be a brilliant movie especially as it has sexy nicolas cage in it
June 25th, 2008 at 12:09 am
IF you think Jerry the Producer is done with Pirates of the Caribbean well you’re wrong because as I’ve recall there doing more both Pirates of the Caribbean and more National Treasure movies in the future and right now the Producer guy is now Producering a new trilogy called Prince of Persia and well I’m really craziy for more movies coming out from me, sailor natlie moon from the sailor team (and scouts) list of movies coming out in year dates from 2009 to 2010 and to 2011. weird Huh?
June 25th, 2008 at 2:54 am
I think they should make movie based on a fake treasure that is on another planet and NASA sends them to retreve it. It would be a good way to change the topic.
They could make it that page 47 was a treasure map found at Area 51.
June 25th, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I loved the first and second movie very much. Being a history major myself…the possibilities are endless, storywise, for them to use.
Religious Artifacts like the grail and the ark are over played. The fountain is to “mythical and hokey” like others have said. Personally, like someone said, each movie has a pattern, starting international than moving into national “treasure”. Sticking with that idea…. something logical would be…. either the Illuminati and going back to the 13 Families. International to National.
I love the movies and cant wait for the third to come out .
June 26th, 2008 at 1:22 pm
i luv the 1st 2 national treasures!! i can’t wait to find out what’s on page 47. i personally hope they don’t make it about area 51 of atlantis
June 26th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
I think National Treasure 3 is going to be something that happens in the 1900’s. Then National Treasure 4 is going to be something that happened in 2000’s. Then thats the end of the series
June 27th, 2008 at 2:00 am
For National Treasure 3 is going to be about the exphantion of the White House. Which started in 1900 right after the reconstrution of the U.S.A. Where they buried all the confederettes gold,money…..etc. Theres “international in that” and treasure that was never seen before. Also I believe that there going through each centry of U.S history. Example National Treasure our country first being formed,1700’s and revolution era. National Treasure 2 country going through civil war,1800’s and getting the satue of the liberty and mt.rushmore being made. National Treasure 3 1900’s expantion of the white house.
June 28th, 2008 at 10:07 pm
I like History
June 29th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
My guess is that National Treasure 3 will be about UFOs and the “extraterrestrial reality”. Could this be the information hidden on Page 47 of the President’s book from part 2? Notice the page number “47″. The “Roswell crash” happened in 1947. Is that a coicidence? Ben (Nick Cage) said in part 2 that the information on page 47 was “life altering”. I quest beneath the Great Pyramids and other ancient wonders around tyhe world could lead to the UFO truth in the movie. That would be the ULTIMATE National Treasure Movie.
June 29th, 2008 at 11:37 pm
it is about President Ford they fight about him in the oval office durring the film and he is the Presidentwho serverd he 47th term
June 30th, 2008 at 6:19 pm
I loved the 1st 2 films (jst about to watch the 2nd one again now on blu ray). They have got to make a 3rd film. I think it shud still be based on US history tho. I havent got a clue about US history (i’m english)…then again, i dont really have much of a clue about english history…lol
I was kind of thinking tht page 47 could be about area 51, but it seems like a bit of a lame idea…the US government should have everything sorted at area 51 (if all the alien stuff exists) so they wudnt need Ben to go find treasure there…
June 30th, 2008 at 10:24 pm
In National Treasure 3 Ben Gates, Abigal Chase and Riley Poole should go and find a lost treasure underneath an american town in South Carolina that leads them to California and then to Hawaii and then to Atlantis!
National Treasure 3: The Lost City!
Ben Gates looks to find the secrets of Page 47 that talks about a treasure that takes him to an abandoned city in South Carolina and finds clues that leads him to Area 51 – then to Hawaii [Pearl Parbor] finds clues underneath the SS. Arizonia and takes him to the Atlantic Ocean and to Atlantis.
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During the ancient times a powerful treasure was shipped from Rome to the small civilization in the New World and when the Dutch and British came they fought over the treasure. The US [13 Colonies] told them to move the treasure to the island of Hawaii and later they left clues.
During the 1700’s there were clues that lead to the Gold Rush in the 1800’s and later clues to Hawaii and then the treasure was shipped to a ship which sunk by Atlantis!
The treasure is in Atlantis!
July 1st, 2008 at 8:14 pm
How about the crystal skulls that people have found that are dated way back but no one knows exaxtly how they were made??
July 1st, 2008 at 8:45 pm
Hi all,
Please, please, please, please, please, please, I beg you all for mercy and sincerely ask for sympathy now. Have we all caught that disease? Which disease you may all ask! The area 51 disease. Please no more word about aliens or area 51, it will sound like the X-files now. It is getting spooky and deep into unknown realms of fascinations of the weird and mysterious events.
Another hypothetical idea is the clue is the clue – on page 47 it might chat about area 51 – oh gosh I caught that disease now!
An interesting idea:
Page 47 + area 51 = next clue???
47 + 51 = 98 ——–> 98 what?
I doing my maths now :- )!!!!!
How about this simple mathematical idea equation?
Page 47 + Area 51 + Bermuda Triangle = next clue??
A triangle has 3 sides = 3
47 + 51 + 3 = 101 ———> 101 what?
How about this equation which could be added to the storyline which makes everyone interested in cryptic clues and puzzles.
X^+ Y^= Z^
X is not equal to 3 or 4.
Y is not equal to 3 or 4.
Z is not equal to 5.
It is based upon Last Fermats Theorem —- It is one of the hardest Mathematical puzzle to solve unless you know the method to solve which was olve by a University of Cambridge professor.
I will leave all mathematical equation for everyone to work out.
Getting back to a serious note on the page 47.
National Treasure 1 film focused on the following cities: Washington DC, Boston, New York City.
National Treasure 2 — Book of Secrets film focused on the following cities and location: Paris, London, Washington DC, Mount Rushmore.
I think National Treasure 3 could have Malta, Sintra — Portugal, Rome — Italy and maybe have San Francisco due to the 49ers history of the Goldrush which everyone is forgetting at the moment.
Everyone here on the blog is chatting about the history of the White House. What about the formation Washington DC?? I do not think they will do the White House again due to the repetition from the previous film of National Treasure 2 – Book of Secrets.
I think San Francisco will be highly interesting – it will also break the dominance and influence of cities of the East Coast Region in the USA to form American History. Why not allow the West Coast Region to have a say on this?
I am sure that Los Angeles or San Francisco will be happy to share their particular history as well. The problem with these cities are the heritage and preservation of old building are such a rarity and very hard to find. This will be real quest to find a real landmark besides Alcatraz or the Golden Gate Bridge.
I will let you all ponder and argue the case now on this one.
July 2nd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
I think they should make national treasure 3 about finding common sense and morals since america has seemed to have lost them
July 2nd, 2008 at 8:13 pm
I wonder how many pages are in the book. If we knew the number of pages we would maybe be able to figure out which president wrote on page 47.
It would be really neat if area 51 reffered to a 51st state that the location of this state is a mistory. The president needed Ben’s help was because there might have been a code or cipher on page 47 that would lead to the location of this hidden 51st state!
July 3rd, 2008 at 8:11 am
Altaff, 101 dalmatians.
come on man, just stop, call the director or something.
July 3rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
I so totally loved National Treasure 1+2. They are llike my favorite movies. I am so thirlled to find out that there will be a 3rd111!!!!!!!!! I cant wait to see it!!! All of the actors are so talented- Nicolas Cage, Diana Kruger, Justin Bartha, and Jon Voit.- They all fit the roles so perfectly. I love u all. Cant wait to see 3!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 3rd, 2008 at 11:09 pm
I really think they sould do it in Gettysburg bc/ there is so much history there and so many monuments with enscriptions. It’d rock
July 4th, 2008 at 12:54 am
I’m Guessing WWII or something that can easily engage a potential member of Ben’s family. Ben’s passion and drive in NTI and II were driven by family links. The passion for following his grandfather’s dreams (Part I), and restoring his family name (Part II), were part of what allowed his wild decisions to make sense. For example, stealing the declaration of independence, kidnapping the president…
If the motive rests solely on the President’s interests, then Ben will not display the passion which made Parts I and II fun as well as important to the character. 47 may or may not mean anything, but if the plot of NTIII unlinks itself from Ben’s family, then it will lose some potential.
July 4th, 2008 at 2:03 pm
I think the 3rd film will be about page 47 in the second which relates to atlantis. So they will be going to find Atlantis.
Nicholas Cage threw in extra ideas into the second movie that helped lead us to believe there will be a third one. If you watch the first 15 minutes of the second one when you see the detective sitting in his office and his partner says there is new about Ben Gates the detective responds with the remark.. “what did he find now? Atlantis.”
July 5th, 2008 at 7:09 pm
Ok, not going to spend much time here, but here’s the scoop. Mitch was John Wilkes Booth, thus the similarity in name.
Supposedly his body burned to ashes, when the building he was hiding in was set on fire by those chasing him after he shot Lincoln.
Booth in his escape, stumbled upon the Fountain of Youth. The existence of a real fountain of youth was known by the Presidents, but its location not certain.
He (Mitch) kept this secret to himself, keeping himself alive until he could find the city of gold, proving that it did indeed exist, and could have changed the outcome of the Civil War.
Gatee realized who Mitch was as he headed for Mt. Rushmore, thus his line about Mitch “needing to find the city.”
Now, for NT3, Gates will try to find the fountain of youth, himself.
The End!
July 6th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Star Trek plot? “to boldly go where no man has gone before” space…. maybe it has something to do with the moon landing. if he truly meant the next movie is based on the plot of star trek, this has to be it. maybe some sort of life altering discovery on the moon…
July 6th, 2008 at 5:47 pm
I think Sam is on to something. He mentioned Euclid’s 47th problem being related to the Masons. Isn’t Free Masonry based around an architect – and the president studied to be an architect? And it’s known that Washington DC was designed with Masonic symbolism all over it.
July 6th, 2008 at 6:21 pm
in response to KayTCue:
You said NT3 should be kept american because as america gets older we forget about our older history… are you smoking crack? How in the name of god can you dismiss thousands of years of asian, european and middle eastern history for a few hundred years of extremely jaded american history? Remember lady that the first chunk of american history is soley based and intertwined with european history, america doesnt have all that much of a story to tell. I agree with what Cage said in the above mentioned interview, make it international treasure hunting this time round, theres been 2 fantastic films thats used up the best material america has to offer this type of film, take it somewhere else now, dont risk a flop by introducing mythology or aliens for the sole reason of keeping it in america.
July 7th, 2008 at 12:51 am
Thats maybe it. Mitch was related to him anyway.
July 7th, 2008 at 12:04 pm
I can only hope that page 47 has something to do with the events that took place in area 51(in 1947)…..hence the words “life altering”…. If the writers have the guts to uncover secret societies such as Skull and Bones and the Bilderberg Group etc hopefully it might not be too late for all of the american government and more importantly the US Congress to be impeached! I doubt the writers who have found such key elements from american history would base the 3rd film around religion for religion in my opinion was the first and most successful conspiracy of them all…..POPULATION CONTROL!!!! I advise everyone to spend time on youtube.com looking up ZEITGEIST conspiracy films…. I have no doubt that the president from book of secrets was a Yale member of skull and bones hence the real life relation to bush and kerry( mccain, clinton/S, obama all Top Secret recruits)………my only concern thou if i do happen to be on the right track is how the writers are goin to fit so much important information into a 2 hour film…… i could right about this forever so il end it with this final clever quote “the greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn’t exist” – Kevin Spacy(Verbal Kint) The Usual Suspects
July 7th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
think part 3 will be more about atlantis. If it was 9/11 then the current president would had to have known what was going on and i doubt that he would have told ben to look at it, cause if it was a conspiracy ben could get the president thrown in prison because it would be very likely that the president was in on it, so i doubt he would tell ben to look at that certain page that would oust the president.. so no it’s not about 9/11
July 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I agree with what jg said (#58)
jg Says:
“It’s pretty obvious where page 47 is headed:
1) The president was an architecture major – this was the single most intriguing thing in the book to him
2) They want to take NT3 international – Cage specifically said Egypt, Asia and Africa
3) What is the “oldest” mystery on earth?
It has got to be the Pyramids – they are nothing but mysteries, empty chambers, signs and clues that point to the heavens. This thing is going to point to aliens or somehow life-altering scenario for planet earth – all the early presidents would have known about the pyramids and obviously we have one on the $1 bill…. You heard it hear first.”
It really makes sense—I like it. The pyramids are controversial anyway—some say the Egyptians didn’t build them at all!
I think that National Treasure 3 would be amazing. These movies are very lifelike even though they are fiction. They are very educational too!!! I learned A LOT in both of them about American and World history!!
NATIONAL TREASURE RULES!!!!
July 8th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
Someone might have already said this but, could it have anything to do with Walt Disney’s death? I mean I know it’s a Disney movie and theres no treasure involed that we know of, but it could be a possibility. There wasn’t a know treasure associated with the Lincoln assasination, right.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:56 am
47 could refer to 1947, the unofficial beginning of the Cold War (the Truman Doctrine).
It is also the year of Roswell, but let’s hope they don’t go there unless it’s to propose an earthly explanation. I mean really, by NT5 they’ll be hunting for the origins of the universe, and by 6 it’ll be the meaning of life and/or the existence of God.
Also, 47 is said to be the quintessential random number… there’s even a 47 Club dedicated to occurences of the number in all parts of life. That would surely tempt Ben’s Beautiful Mind.
The Pyramids may have something to do with it, as well, I second “I”. After all, there is a pyramid on the poster and in each film (first with the dollar bill, then with those in the City).
July 11th, 2008 at 3:37 am
Life-altering, huh? Sounds like the Fountain of Youth to me. Could it be? Guess we’ll have to find out.
July 11th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
maby it has to do with the mystory (u can look it up) of y the pyimids all pont to the north star. not area 51, but a human like life form. at the end thoe.
July 12th, 2008 at 4:38 pm
Nicolas Cage said himself that he improvised the words “life altering”. So whether the writers are going to live up to that or not is really only speculation. In the first one there are SO many egyptian and middle east artifacts in the hidden treasure that even though it was based in American history, it was really a world history as Gates is talking to Sandusky he says that there are centuries of World History down there. It was only the “American” fore-fathers that chose to hide it. The second one, although the characters travel to London and France, is a true American treasure. The first Americans to be precise. It is a Native American lost city that is found. So whether or not they decide to do the Pyramids (which is a great idea) or not, you can be sure that it will have something to do Internationally, because America is such a young country with such a skewed vision of itself, that our history is more International than National. Although fun, I think speculating what it will be about is really a exercise in futility. No matter what it will be, you can bet the writers will make it good!
July 13th, 2008 at 10:50 am
I agree with #s 58. and 352.
58 says:
“It’s pretty obvious where page 47 is headed:
1) The president was an architecture major – this was the single most intriguing thing in the book to him
2) They want to take NT3 international – Cage specifically said Egypt, Asia and Africa
3) What is the “oldest” mystery on earth?
It has got to be the Pyramids – they are nothing but mysteries, empty chambers, signs and clues that point to the heavens. This thing is going to point to aliens or somehow life-altering scenario for planet earth – all the early presidents would have known about the pyramids and obviously we have one on the $1 bill…. You heard it hear first.”
352 says:
“It really makes sense—I like it. The pyramids are controversial anyway—some say the Egyptians didn’t build them at all!”
I also want to add (whether it actually worked or not) but when Ben photographs pg.47, there is a brief moment that the page can be viewed through his phone. zooming in, we couldn’t see writing, but a VERY distinct number 51
Area 51 people??
At least, I hope that’s what this all is, it’s DEFINITELEY something I’d want to watch!
July 14th, 2008 at 12:45 am
ive been reading along and it seems like some of you would have more balls then brains, i mean yes we got area 51m and sure aliens can be life altering but i mean, its not like the president doesnt know about it, its just an urban legend to the public, then there is rumors of egypt, whats there to find, Hamunaptra?…for thoughs who have watched the mummy movies, they know what im talking about…now no1 would like this but just so happens, tht a recent movie called fools gold, focuses on the queens dowry, just so happens it was the same queen in both movies, now it could be another version of the queens dowry but i rather doubt it, now if any of you know anything, NT3 is gonna be a treasure hunt not a lwts live forever and find the fountain of youth, keep tht reserved for ol jackie and his pirates, tht leaves with 2 options, my guess Eldorado, suuposively a treasure of mercenaries who crashed on an island off of florida,thts bens treasure, not tombs or area 51, if u want area 51, go watch independence day, now although we have a pyrmaid on the 1 dollar bill, that is the all seeing eye,…tomb raider, the illuminarty believe by uniting the 2 halfs of the triangle, u can control time, yet a ben treasure, and life altering , its mythical and let angelina jolie and here african babies mess with tht, Eldorado, my good sons, its eldorado
July 17th, 2008 at 10:16 pm
2 things. 1 eldorodo is the city of gold. alredy done in movie 2. 2. theres only so much to american misterys. its probibly gona deal with onother contry. their are things on this planet that we havent even been toched in probibly thousands of years. do I think mankind has a right to know serton things in life? yes. but I also beleve that some doors that are shut are better off staying shut. one more thing. to thouse how bash on aliens, out of the vastnes of the univers, are we alown?
July 17th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
the 51 moves and is not on the page. but there are words on page 47. pause at 1:16:53. take a screen shot and sharpen the picture.
July 19th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
I think that making another National Treasure is completley rediculus. The first one was ok, but the second one was a complete disaster. The plot made no sense, Riley became an unnesessary character, it was a waste of money. The only reason why Disney expanded on NT was the sucess of the first one and that’s all disney has become since Walt died: a bunch of money grabbing idiots who waste time with terrible sequels. Not even Disneyland is the same anymore. I hate to say this but it’s true. Expanding more on NT would only make the only one worth watching a complete laughing stock. If Disney wants to keep any of the little remaining dignity, it would leave NT as it is. Ikasu, telling nothing but the truth. Thank you for your time.
July 21st, 2008 at 10:37 am
Well here is my two cents worth on all the discussion. First off, as far as Mitch goes, it is a possibility he escaped. When they returned at the end to catalog the artifacts, his body was never found and never even mentioned really again.
Second, as far as page 47 goes, what I am wanting to do is use a little bit of technology. Capture a screen shot of Ben’s cell phone when he takes the pic, blow it up and try and read it. It may be worthless but never hurts to try.
As far as the order of the President’s book, pmedicteacher’s post says that page 47 falls somewhere between possibly 1825-1845, I believe this is false. When he opens the book, he is finding information on Area 51 and the Kennedy assassination, he continues turning towards the end when he discovers the Queen Victoria letter reference, so when he said he read it in a book…THAT was the book he was talking about, the President’s Secret Book.
And it never mentioned anything about page 47 being an American secret, so there are several options, Fountain of Youth, but like one viewer said, Pirates of the Carribean 4 is about that, so I doubt it is, another said Area 51, I doubt that as well, since the government was in charge of most of it, that would be too easy. Another option could be the Ark of the Covenant, but that has already been played out in the Indiana Jones movies.
I personally think it could be one of three things. I think it has something to do with an Egyptian treasure possibly. It could also have something to with Nostradamus. Here we are in 2008 and we have his writings. So I figure some where known back then as well and a lot of his prophecies have been life altering. So possibly a doomsday scenario is likely.
However, my third idea really has no plot, more of a setting I would really enjoy and that’s either Stonehenge or Easter Island. I personally have been fascinated with both as their history is well…a mystery really. All we know about Stonehenge is it was a religious site for druids. I don’t know much about Easter Island, other than it’s mysterious and creepy.
So I guess we will just have to wait and see.
July 21st, 2008 at 8:57 pm
My teenage son is a total history buff. Needless to say I can’t get him to stop watching these movies. But when they teach as well as entertain, how can I complain too much? I too agree that it would be intriguing to see a number 3 go global. What a ‘trip’ that would be.
July 21st, 2008 at 10:43 pm
OK ENOUGH OF THESE CHILDISH GUESSES, I KNOW THE SECRET THAT LIES BEHIND THE MYSTERY OF “PAGE 47″…..
THE PLOT TO NT3 IS THAT BEN GATES FINALLY FIGURES OUT WHERE THE NATIONS “MISSING SOCKS FROM THE LAUNDRY” GO.
July 21st, 2008 at 11:07 pm
I keep reading “events in area 51″ so I must ask. What “events” happened in area 51? Are you thinking of “The Roswell Incident” involving the recovery of materials near Roswell, New Mexico, USA, on July 7, 1947? That is what I think the next one will be about. Area 51 has nothing to do with Roswell. I live in New Mexico so it is mostly hoping, but sort of a movie can be made about a weather balloon?
July 26th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I think they’re on a search to find the city of atlantist but they also find a way to stop globle warming
July 26th, 2008 at 10:32 pm
Actually Area 51 does have to do with the Roswell Incident as many believe the ‘aliens’ captured at Roswell were taken either to Edwars Air Force Base or Area 51. As for the third film dealing with Area 51, that has been done plenty in films and tv. The X-Files did it to death, even Indiana Jones covered it in the new film. Atlantis has been done too. El Dorado is just another version of Cibola, and the Fountain of Youth is not especially interesting.
As for it having to be American, no it doesn’t. Cage himself said he wanted to expand, and I think that’s a great idea. There is so much to explore that way. If staying local, then perhaps an attempt to connect the English colony at Roanoke of 1586 and the L’Anse aux Meadows Viking colony est. in Newfoundland ca. 1000 AD. It would be a stretch to connect history near 600 years apart, but that’s what makes it fun! And nobody ever mentions the Vikings in America. It’s about time Americans become aware of this, as the nonsense that Columbus founded the New World is beyond absurd.
July 26th, 2008 at 10:36 pm
jstone3503, Stonehenge has nothing to do with the druids originally. It was around millennia before the druids came onto the scene. It acted as a Neolithic lunar calendar in order to coincide with the summer and winter solstice, to allow both for proper harvesting and to let the Neolithic people know when it was time to celebrate certain festivals. The druids came near 1500 years later and used it as a religous site, but it was not Stonehenge’s intended purpose.
As for Easter Island, they represent the ancestors of the Rapa Nui people, watching over them. They were carved from local rock and dragged to the site using logs and pulleys. There is nothing especially mysterious about them anymore. Interesting to be sure, but no longer mysterious.
July 27th, 2008 at 5:26 pm
Well…We COULD always ask GWB what’s on page 47….
I’ll bet dimes to donuts, He doesn’t know either, because Cheney won’t tell him.
BUT…just in case I’m wrong…I will hazard THIS GUESS
He will intimate only to ROBERT NOVAK…on the condition that the conversation never took place (because you know he’s such a leak…or is that Armitage?) that the book of secrets IS in all actuallity…. a book of Presidential Recipies.
containing ON PAGE FORTY SEVEN Benjamin Franklin submitted to then-President George Washington the super secret ingredients and how to make … Manna! (yes..the same manna that fell from heaven, that fed the hebrews, wandering in the ‘wilderness’ of saudi araibia for 40 years, before FINALLY coming into the land of milk and honey) and the reason why its so secret…is because were he to make it by coventional kitchen methods…it would taste AWWFULL, and probably poisonous…unless…you added the ONE ingredient whose chemical properties when cooked, would tie it all together, make it taste sweet in the mouth and allow you to see and thank God, the more you eat and digest it.
I dont think WE today would recognize it as manna, though…….
Ladies and genetlemen…the recipie on PAGE forty seven would today be recognized as “4:20″ brownies, except it’s not brownies…it’s FRUITCAKE!
That’s right, folks….HASH FRUITCAKE!
And on page 48 the following warning……written my George Washington, at the behest of wife Martha!
“Upon Treason and pain of death, you are NOT to carry out the recepie on the preceeding page, doing so will only bring ruin to the country….as well as your social standings., if not you underclothes.
And so the mystery of page 47 would finally be solved. if my guess is correct…..
Tinfoil Helmet and Asbestos Longjohns quickly donned, awaiting response……
July 28th, 2008 at 5:16 am
I guess we are all going to have to wait. Hollywood has their own ideas and we all could be on the right track but they are going to keep us guessing, that is how they all make their money
July 28th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I just watch National Treasure 2. I’m kno i’m a “little” late but i live on a small island. I don’t kno much about american history but National Treasure 1 and 2 made me do lots of research on it. I kno wat they show isn’t necessarily tru , but its isn’t necessarily fake!
I’m really excited to see wat they come up with in National Treaure 3 (If there is one). Watever they come up wit i’m sure i will enjoy it becuz NT series are interesting and educational at the same time and i”m sure that NT 3 will be no less.
July 30th, 2008 at 12:04 am
hi page 47 is about george washington!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 1st, 2008 at 10:28 pm
The code to open the Book of Secrets:
23 47 86
2+3=5
4+7=11
8+6=14 (1+4=5)
Therefore,
5115 ???
August 4th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
Everybody keeps making references to 47…… does it being on page 47 really make a difference….. doesnt it just mean the president at that time was up to page 47? Fountain of youth idea isn’t a bad idea but a little overused. Now Atlantis is quite a good one. Remember the cop saying whats he looking for this time, Atlantis?
Would be funny if it actually was Atlantis in the next movie. Though that just my opinion i know there are many, many others.
August 5th, 2008 at 12:52 am
Sean Bean must return for another one. I’ll be disappointed if he doesn’t.
August 6th, 2008 at 1:15 am
After thinking this over and reading some very plausible ideas & theories and reading some that are a bit ‘extreme’ I find it odd that someone hasnt considered the following theory. First of all, disregard the idea that the book is in any kind of chronological order and just take it that it’s a book of ’secrets’. If the book carries no real meaning in that it isnt in chronological order, the reference to page 47 could be the clue itself. Remember, 1947 is the year of the Roswell incident with the UFO in New Mexico. Page 47 could mean the year of 1947 and this incident. If it was to be discovered that the Roswell UFO incident actually happened then to me, that would be considered ‘life altering’…. just some food for thought along a different course of thinking…
August 6th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
i was reading these comments and if anyone thinks that the national treasure three it will b about the fountain of youth i disagree. if anyone watched pirates 3 closely at the end of that u will c that the map map jack sparrow has says fountain of youth in the middle. i don’t know what NT3 will be about but i hope they will be going international. it would becool to see the treasure found in egypt or china. i also would like to see Capt. Jack speaks idea.
August 6th, 2008 at 3:37 pm
also what kind of treasure would they find with roswell
August 7th, 2008 at 12:58 am
I loved both the movies and I thought that a good plot for the third one would be the Holy Grail. That would be really “life altering”. Or maybe Noah’s Ark or something to do with the Pyramids or something, I don’t know. LOL!! I just know that they are all good movies and I can’t wait for the next one whenever it comes out.
August 7th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Wow… just went and had a look at the movie again. When he takes the picture of page 47 on his phone the number 51 is clearly highlighted… strange…. lol. Oh and Captain Jack if it wasn’t in order how did he find what he was looking for so quickly?
August 8th, 2008 at 3:34 pm
If Nic wants to go INTERNATIONAL, Maybe they’ll make NT3 about Atlantis….hmm…..That would be interesting.
And the writers going on strike is really stupid. Why are they even on strike?
August 11th, 2008 at 3:33 pm
I somewhat agree with an above comment about National Treasure 3 possibly being about the Gettysburg Address. I had look at the pictures that Cage made of page 47 in the second movie. The second page (Page 47) does mostly resemble the second page of the Gettysburg Address. However, the page before it (Page 46) did not look like the first page of the Address. My thoughts are: One, it is not about the Gettysburg Address, or two, it has to do with the Gettysburg Address possibly having another page (not known by anyone besides those who have seen the President’s book). As far as what is on that page, I have no idea, but this would go along with the quote about the content of page 47 being ‘life threatening,’ or along those lines. I look forward to seeing the fourth in the wonderful National Treasure series.
August 14th, 2008 at 8:59 am
it will be amazing if Jerry Bruckheimer, John Turteltaub and nicolas cage join forces again and make the third instalment of the national treasure franchise, also if the rest of the familier faces join in aswel, such as Diane Kruger, Justin Bartha and Jon Voight, it will be great if they get a big time actor as the villian for the third film. Also, what’s this deal with the page 47, what is in that page
August 14th, 2008 at 9:07 am
the third film will be better then the previous to, because it has alredy left us with tension as to what the third one will be about.
August 14th, 2008 at 9:32 am
it will be amazing if Jerry Bruckheimer, John Turteltaub and nicolas cage join forces again and make the third instalment of the national treasure franchise, also if the rest of the familier faces join in aswel, such as Diane Kruger, Justin Bartha and Jon Voight, it will be great if they get a big time actor as the villian for the third film. Also, what’s this deal with the page 47, what is in that page.
August 14th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
I know about pae 47…some of you are really close, but nobody is right so far…how bout that for a cliff hanger…keep hunting!
August 15th, 2008 at 3:09 am
great movies please dont leave us in the dark about page 47
August 16th, 2008 at 5:24 am
I hated this movie. You can do all the guessing you want. It’s a waste of time. I’m so glad I didn’t pay $10 at the theater to see this movie, even though I enjoyed the first. I cursed the screen when I realized that the answer wasn’t coming. What a BS waste of dialog and a complete time-wasting loose end.
Screw you makers of National Treasure 2! And that goes for that hack John Voight as well. Nick Cage might still be cool, but this is certainly a big knock against him because apparently it was his “Life Altering” script improv.
Anyone who can say they liked this movie in light of this cryptic loose end, that has absolutely no meaning to all involved with the making, are movie going marks!
So glad it was $1 rental at the RedBox.
August 17th, 2008 at 9:10 am
“Life altering….” The only thing that can be life altering…by any feat, would be ET in nature. It may be far fetched…but seriously the only thing that could affect human kind…and the vast history of our exsistance, would be the interaction of life not of this earth, and really the only contraversy left that would be of any interest…
August 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 am
OMG! I absolutely loved these movies! I wish I had the first one on DVD but I have the second one. The weekend I got it I watched it four times! I’m so excited about NT3. These National Treasue movies are what actually got me really interested in history. So keep um coming!
Whatever the writers come up with I’m sure its going to be great. I love Riley, he’s so hilarious.
I really hope they keep Patrick and Emily Gates in the movie. I love their constant bickering when they meet again.
My worst fear for themovie is that they’ll keep the same characters but some might e played by other people. I hate when they do that. They could do fifteen NT movies but as long as they keep the same actors I’ll be happy.
“Life- altering” wow! I just can’t wait! Unless one of the writers comes out and says #3 is about ….. No one will really know what it’s about until it comes out. Or at least until the previews come out.
The day It comes out I’m going, I hope I’m not in Spain or Dominican republic when it does come out, because I’ll be furious.
Go National Treasure!!!!!! Whoooooooooooooooo!
August 23rd, 2008 at 8:59 pm
i want to marry…
nicoas kage
August 24th, 2008 at 11:52 am
it can’t be area 51 (Independence Day did that), not fountain of youth (Pirates of the Caribbean 4) and not holy grail (Indiana Jones). other than that i have no idea! looking forward to it tho, hope the strike wont last too long!
August 24th, 2008 at 11:56 am
p.s. nick cage is really cute!
August 24th, 2008 at 7:48 pm
I’d like to add one perspective if you like. The theme of the first treasure was knowledge and history, the second treasure was great wealth and forgotten history.
After reading about the 47 th problem in Masonry, I and inclined to go with the origins of live as the 3rd treasure.
As for where, both movies have actually been international, movie 1 – the treasure was brought here from distant lands. Movie 2 – clues to the treasure were found abroad. Movie 3 will have even more connections to international waters and lands. The great thing is, they can pick any point in US history and spin it based on Masonic teachings.
But, mark my work, it will be about the origins of life….
August 25th, 2008 at 1:21 am
NT3 = lost dutchman mine
August 25th, 2008 at 1:22 am
or NT3 = King Solomons Treasure
August 26th, 2008 at 9:26 pm
What about trying to find the Garden of Eden?? I also like the idea of King Solomon’s Mines too.
August 28th, 2008 at 12:50 am
Garden of Eden I think maybe too religious for mainstream theaters, maybe he finds a rubber bigfoot living in the remains of Noahs ark and Riley takes the money and leaves Ben and Abagail and moves to France to write a book called,”The Cebola tax exemption”.:)
August 29th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
Hi all,
I am back from the long wilderness.
I find the comments of 352. I say: very interesting and thought provoking, something to seriously debate about now guys about this new possibility.
#352. Comment: I Says quote is shown below:
Dated on July 8th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
I agree with what jg said (#58)
jg Says:
“It’s pretty obvious where page 47 is headed:
1) The president was an architecture major – this was the single most intriguing thing in the book to him
2) They want to take NT3 international – Cage specifically said Egypt, Asia and Africa
3) What is the “oldest” mystery on earth?
It has got to be the Pyramids – they are nothing but mysteries, empty chambers, signs and clues that point to the heavens. This thing is going to point to aliens or somehow life-altering scenario for planet earth – all the early presidents would have known about the pyramids and obviously we have one on the $1 bill…. You heard it hear first.”
It really makes sense—I like it. The pyramids are controversial anyway—some say the Egyptians didn’t build them at all!
I think that National Treasure 3 would be amazing. These movies are
My answer to this is, has the Egyptian Civilisation has been exhausted or not. Can someone out there please comment on that one.
Another factor to think about why the Pyramids is it because it is the first Civilisation that really known to man or a large empire that evolved overnight.
I personally think there must be Other Civilisations out there before the Egyptian Civilisation.
What about the Babylonian Civilisation?
It is a highly interesting one to chat about and to do research on and etc.
What about the famous Hanging Gardens of Babylonians?
With it’s beautiful prime of Gardens Waterfalls and Beautiful Gardens. Everybody hears about it and but nobody knows anything about it or anything made into a film about it, there must be information about it.
Let debate about this now.
August 31st, 2008 at 6:34 pm
PAGE 47……AREA 51
August 31st, 2008 at 6:35 pm
PAGE 47…AREA 51
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:12 am
Pirates of the carribean 4 is most definately about the fountain of youth so that rules that out for NT3, the pyramids seems plausible, but not from an alien point of view. Maybe a mason view though, the all seeing eye maybe?
National treasure 3: poked in the golden eyeball! haha.or maybe national treasure 3:I saw the pyramid and my eye popped up.
National treasure 3:the third eye!
September 2nd, 2008 at 2:08 pm
National Treasure has done such a great job connecting with American Hsitory, and that trend needs to continue. Although the Fountain of Youth would make for an intriguing story, there is adequate mystery surrounding Alamo defender James Bowie and the fabled Spanish Silver of San Saba that another tale could be developed that would have national interest, and force Gates to explore the southwest. I just visited Mt. Rushmroe over the weekend, and I am ready for the next film!
September 4th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
Heyy,cool,NT2 premiered on my Bday.
September 5th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
No more Area 51 please!!!!!!!!
We had Area 51 on the Indiana Jones 4 Film: Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of Crystal Skull (2008) starring Harrison Ford.
Area 51 must be rule out totally because Area 51 was also shown in the film Independence Day (1996) starring Will Smith, Bill Pulman, Jeff Goldblum and others.
Fountain of Youth must be rule out because it might be shown on Pirates of the Caribbean.
Area 51 must be totally rule out now.
September 6th, 2008 at 6:42 pm
Ok nt3 won’t be about fountain of youth because pirates 3 is probably gonna be about that. Don’t get me wrong I love this nation and that theme but if love if we went international. I believe page 47 will be about Atlantis, 2012, maybe pole shift? aliens and what is under the sphinx and also possably pyramids all around the world. I think the ark of the covenant may be under one of the sphinx’ paws. In any case it’ll hopefully be as great as the 1st and 2nd installments
September 8th, 2008 at 2:14 pm
I love #304’s idea! It should be that! also, regarding the rumors of atlantis, maybe, but i think going to the island directly would be dumb, and maybe should have treasure FROM island have been smuggled into US and be hidden in some national landmark. also, this time around, they should much more obscure history facts and only one that everyone knows.
September 11th, 2008 at 12:08 pm
your a queer #63! some people actually have lives and girlfriends and don’t spend their time reading every single post. i only glanced at some on the way to the bottom of the page. get alife! geez.
September 12th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
How about the illuminati or another secret society? i think that would be a good story.. about the illuminati and the New World Order and Ben has to like solve the clues to stop them. Which of course couldnt actually happen because the illuminati are so insanely stealthy and unseen it would take a lifetime just to find them.
Please reply..with good or bad comments.
September 16th, 2008 at 4:36 pm
I loved both the first and second movies. As far as page 47 some of the theories I read were good ideas. I don’t know if someone has brought this up but possibly page 47 contained an ancient language. This would bring Ben Gates’ mother back into the movie, her being a language expert. Also the “life altering” comment could possibly refer to the Atlantian power source.
The one other plot the the movie could follow would be to explore the ancient mysteries such as Stonehenge, Easter Island, the Great Wall, and of course the Pyramids as they could be linked to each other. I think if it the pyramid’s are used as part of the plot line, it will heaily reference the first movie as the Free Masons with the all seeing eye. I don’t believe the illuminati would be a part of this movie as that was well explored in Tomb Raider with the Triangle of Light. I also like the idea of the Bermuda Triangle being included, but at a later time.
If any one else has made these suggesstions then give credit where it is due, I did not have time to read the 400+ posts.
Please reply, all comments are welcome!
September 18th, 2008 at 9:29 am
i see that 2 mowies and they was realy good if creators are rely smurt guys they will do the 3part then 4 and 6and…i think this 2parts of national treasure is the best movies i ever sean and thath wiil be sealy if thei dont do the continue national tresure!!!!
September 21st, 2008 at 10:13 am
Hopefully, page 47 will have something to do with Oak Island, which I believe President Franklin Roosevelt did in fact get involved with.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:22 pm
I am thrilled that there will an NT3. Just watched NT2 this weekend, over and over again! I loved it, as well as the first one. NT2 was just as good.
I think NT3 should pick up with page 47 and leave one of the other wonderful ideas for an NT4.
September 26th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I think n03 will be about the lost city of atlanta. Because there keeps on beeing refrences to atanta. There are some prop aswell
September 27th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
I think it will NOT be about the Fountain of Youth, because in the third Pirates movie they show Jack looking for it, and it would be stupid for Disney to have connections with it in both series.
October 4th, 2008 at 1:41 am
I just saw NT2 (I know, I’m a bit after the fact) and I am intruiged by the possibility of a NT3 that deals with the secrets of page 47. I just wish that they will try to make it more consistent with reality thatn NT2.
For example, the Olmec culture never spread beyond Mexico. Neither did the Aztecs, and the Incans were in Peru. How is there a Mesoamerican city of gold (El Dorado) in South Dakota? The only people in that area in prehisoty were the Clovis and other people that gave rise to the Lakota and Sioux tribes.
Another thing that is not consistent with reality is the placement of the lake behind Mt. Rushmore. Sylvan Lake (which is where they were) is actually to the south-west of Mt. Rushmore. Since Rushmore faces south, how can a lake that is to the south-west be behind it? I do not know if there really is a lake behind Mt. Rushmore, but if there is, why not use the real lake, instead of a well-known area of Custer State Park that is nowhere near Mt. Rushmore?
Back to speculation of NT3, I agree with those who say that the fountain of youth is out. The ending of Pirates 3 clearly shows Jack searching for the fountain of youth, and I think Disney has better writers than to have two storylines around the same myth. Though a crossover would be interesting… Say Jack found it in the 1600’s, and Gates finds him still there in the 21st century. That would make for an interesting movie.
October 9th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
my guess is about “page 47″…i dont want to say it…but i think it is something to do with Atlantis…or similar.
only because 47 has some references in astronomy and specifically “ocean” and “water”
at least id like to see things like astronomy, being clues….
October 11th, 2008 at 11:30 pm
Page 47 – The location of Osama Bin Laden!
October 12th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
I think we have to rule out the possibility of Area 51 because when he first opens the book Riley says, ” Area 51,” and Ben flips through a lot more pages, and since Area 51 was on like page 5 or something, I doubt it is Area 51.
October 15th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
Perhaps page 47 is about possible alien visitation,or intervention and or an ancient alien civilization that is known only now to the presidents. LOL,who knows.I enjoyed both movies and look forward to the next one.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:50 am
Loved NT1 and 2. the third should be where ben gates and abigail look for abigails dress. And she spends the whole movie naked. She is so hott!!!!
LOL. Really cant wait for the 3rd one.
October 17th, 2008 at 8:59 pm
i think page 47 has something to do with the pyramids in egypt. since the president has intrest in architecture,maybe theres something hidden in the pyramids thats “life altering” as they say.
October 17th, 2008 at 9:03 pm
it might also be about the conspirecy behind 9/11 or the location of manbearpig. and the information is about al gore
October 20th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
How about the Treasure being the values of the people of the States, Such as who killed Kennedy was it russia, the mob,cuba,the cia, etc, Is Elvis really dead, Is Jim Morrison buried in europe, or is the bermuda triangle the real national treasue consuming all atlantis, fountain of youth, amelia ehrhart, flight 19, hitlers missing body (alive) and being connected to the other triangle near Japan
October 20th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
all the above could be on page 47 or how about a clue to the location of the lost dutchman mine, which is connected to a german imigrant and indian gold
October 20th, 2008 at 11:48 pm
The problem with the Hoover Dam idea is that it has been done (Transformers) and Area 51 (Indiana Jones) and Nazis (Indiana Jones). How about Atlantis, but putting an American spin on it by weaving it with the story of the lost British Roanoke colony?
October 21st, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I am thinking they find the “Garden of Eden” or Fountain of youth, one one more possibilty, Atlantis….
October 23rd, 2008 at 12:10 pm
The Roswell, New Mexico extra terrestrial crash event was in the year 1947. Hence “page 47″. This event we know of whether we want to or not through the massive multi media saturation on it over the past 60 years, lol.
Nothing will be more “life altering” (Cage qoute to the President in the end of the movie) than finally putting to rest the primitive, arrogant, superstitious masses view of the child species “mankind” being “alone” in our Universe. (loves to overquote, lol)
Interesting Cage should hypothesis on what the writers will think of in terms of international hunting for clues in another sequel. International includes The Pyramids, Stonehenge, Atlantis, Bermuda Triangles magnetic space warp portals, etc. ALL are actually different types of technological celestial mapping points of a sort. Many (like myself) believe these famous locations being built by the Ancients was influenced by extra terrestrial contact. Linking the loctions all to a head with the Roswell alien crash evet would be not be too tough to accomplish for the Hollywood writers guild.
October 25th, 2008 at 6:09 am
Series of national treasure was great….the movie holds the viewer tightly as the mystery starts to unfold and the game goes on…so i expect another sequel too!!!
October 25th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
First, I want to state that I did not find these two movies to be all that great. I enjoyed them, but some posts discuss them as though they are great, patriotic films. Don’t get me wrong, your enjoyment of any film should not be altered by my beliefs. Any film that you enjoy is for purely personal reasons. With that having been said, I have a few thoughts.
Please, please, stop and think your thoughts through. Also, check and see if your thought has already been posted…let’s say 25 times before. I am not saying you need to read every single posting, but just for the sake of discussion add something new.
And please, if you need to, use a spell check. One posting started by begging apologies for English not being his or hers first language. The same post then thanked everyone for their patience. For that one post I happily spent a little extra time trying to read it. However, some people placed posts that reminded me of the addage “if you placed a group of monkeys in a room with typewriters you will eventually get the works of Shakespeare.” These unfortunatly, looked like the monkey’s lesser work.
I do not understand the need to post your thought’s if you don’t care enough to make them understandable. Typos and “texting” language aside just slow down.
On to the movies: While I stated that I did enjoy them I feel there is a certain reality to them. They come across not as real, but similar to events that could happen. It is really just a feel to them.
With that being said and this thread suppose to be about Page 47, I have a few other thoughts. I do not wish to dispel thoughts reviewed endlessly above so I will attempt to spur the conversation further.
Harvey Keitel’s character Sadusky is the one I find most interesting. He is obviously a freemason who works for the F.B.I. Many, Grandmaster’s of lodges have been men with less than famous occupations. Not all have gone on to be President, or captain’s of industry. Perhaps in the secret society’s world he is one with great power. Sadusky seems to give Ben Gates enough rope to hang himself. His character plays every situation cooly as if he knows the outcome ahead of time. I wonder if he could be revealed as a puppetmaster.
As I understand the Freemason’s structure of it’s members there are several levels. On the bottom levels it seems to be a social club. A social club with an eye towards charity. As a member climbs the levels they are bestowed with more secrets. What if these secrets are actually, at the pinnacle, what so many people fear? What if they are running the world? Perhaps the reason Sadusky allows Ben Gates to get away with so much, even taking him outside of the F.B.I. headquarters to tell him that The Book Of Secrets actually exists is that he is pulling all the strings.
Quick side note: It was my understanding the reason Wilkinson gave up his guns and thugs to be apart of finding the gold was he needed it. In the beginning he had initiated this round of treasure hunting. He was the one with a family secret. Gates understood this, for in the first movie he was the one with the family stories and the one with an almost addiction or obsession. He saw himself in Wilkerson. Just one man’s thought.
Personally, I thought the best idea for the next movie was from “The Steven” #79. He stipulated, a surrender being signed after the War of 1812, leaving this country of ours to be called The United States of Great Britain. The surrender never reaches England.
What if, in a last ditch effort The President at the time traded a “life altering” secret for soveringty? What kind of secret would be worth an entire country. Page 47?
Would a secret the Freemason’s held leverage the country?
Okay, time for my tangent.
If I was to incorporate most of those ideas on the message board, here is how I would do it.
The Book Of Secrets is a book that only the President knows about. Only the Presidents would read it and inscribe it. Who is to say with such a heavy burden the President’s don’t become unofficial members of the Freemasons? Privy to secrets that nobody out side of the Freemasons know about. Washington, a Freemason sets forth this tradition. Honorable men by oath, or office they are trusted.
The Presidents can’t really act on anything that is in the book during office or after. They are too high profile to go treasure hunting. For whatever reason, this President, deems it time for action. You got a guy in front of you, in Ben Gates, who found two of the greatest treasures in history. Who better to give this quest to?
Okay, here is where I would ruin the franchise if I wrote this movie.
The Mayans belive we are in the fifth and last incarnation of Earth. The whole world comes to an end according to their calender on 12/21/2012. The people of Atlantis were using Earth as a colony and gave the Mayans this date based on the stars and what was to be the evacuation of the planet. The Atlanteans used the rest of the world the way England used Australia, as a prison colony. Exhiles were sent away without the advanced technology, and over generations regressed to simple man. As time goes by they feel regret for exhiling members of their race. The Pyramids, Stonehenge, and Oak Island, were built along with several other monuments as a way of leaving clues for their exhiled brothers and sisters. Atlanteans, sensing their exhiles were learning to record history, thanks to Plato’s work, decided to destroy Atlantis and live among the exhiles worldwide. They passed on their knowledge and traditions to generations through secret societies pre-dating the Freemasons. Once this became too watered down they formed the Freemasons. They have allowed their secret society to be known as a way to bridge the gap between the haves and the have nots. Over the generations they have kept their secrets only in the highest circles. With the end of the world approaching, Sadusky relies on Gates to bridge the gap for all of humanity.
Perhaps when Turtltaub said Page 47 was the plot to Star Trek we could be as members of Earth being inducted into a “Federation” that 2012 is the interview for.
Again, that is how I would ruin the franchise.
October 27th, 2008 at 1:22 am
When Ben takes a picture of page 47 there is a #51 at the top of the page.
October 27th, 2008 at 11:24 pm
Well, theres no harm to do the Fountain of Youth twice. is there? I mean, It would be awsome if in the Forth film of National Treasure, “Ben and gang are sent back in time and ben is forced to join forces with the Legendry Captain Jack Sparrow to defeat an evil plot to try and change the fate of history of both the Gates family and the Pirates Battle with the East India Company and Davy Jones.” But its Disney’s choices, not any body else.
October 28th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Alright, seeing as how their are more than 400 responses to this, and many of them devoted to the repetitious ideas in them, I went ahead and read every one.
And, having done so, I have a couple of interesting ideas, and a few people to agree with.
First, #79 The Steven…I think you have a wonderful idea. Incorporating such a little known piece of American history would be not only beneficial but entertaining as well.
Second, to both #396 Castortroy and #426 Scott, I was intending to present the same idea of the Lost Dutchman’s Gold Mine.
Now bear in mind that from living in AZ, I have a bit of an interest in this, but not enough to even attempt to be an expert. The Lost Dutchman’s mine, as the legend is known today, would present an interesting take on history.
Supposedly located in the Superstition Mountains, it is said to have a rich vein of gold. Is this ‘life altering’? I don’t happen to think so, but, that’s what writers are for.
Plus, as I was reading up on this legend on Wikipedia…not the best source for information, but useful, there is a mention to the Knights of the Golden Circle, the KGC that is the basis for the second movie. Surely this can all be tied in together, and as a quick thought, maybe it can have something to do with establishing the US on the gold standard again?
Again, I am not an expert on any of this, just a curious fan of the movies, but with all the others possibilities floating around, I thought this would make a good contribution. And as a added bonus, what better place for our heroes to be stranded with villains than the scorching AZ desert?
Just a thought.
October 28th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Are you two serious? I ask sincerly. I am presently doing the best I can to choke down my wrath. Please, please, glance at the conversation as it has already taken place. Please, read and add something new to the conversation. You don’t need to read all 433 posts, it is a pain in the butt! I know, I did it! But, your views lose credence when you neglect the conversation before you. Like the guy that enters the party 3 hours late and says”wow, lotta guys here!” in a room of frustrated men, you leave me annoyed.
November 1st, 2008 at 11:16 pm
Page 47 was about the Roswell Incident, which occurred in 1947. This is why Area 51 was mentioned.
November 2nd, 2008 at 1:45 pm
On page 47 is the signature of God. It is one letter.
M.
November 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm
id like to see it stay as far away as it can frm and movie this year..area 51 was done in indiana jones earlier this year….i think it would be a cool idea to include asia and africa and iraq..and have a storyline based aroundmaybe the native americans not being the first ones in america..or something that we as american take as known fact but with no actual proof..like when his mother started researching the ruins and find an even earlier civilization. somewhere that takes him deep in the jungles of the amazon to eqypt and deeper sounth into africa and throw in a little iraq or saudi arabia for some spice.
November 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 am
That is an interesting comparison with 47 i haven’t noticed before Rick. although the idea of aliens wouldn’t really suit NT that much. But also not completely unusable.. for example the fourth indiana Jones. with reference to no aliens in the first three then bam the fourth = what the hell?
If it’s ‘life altering’ then there’s an endless list of possibilities. My opinion if they stop it at a 3 movie saga(which they should). they should make it exactly ‘life altering’ that wraps up NT.
The great pyramids have been a major symbol.. Atlantis has been brought up itself in the 2nd movie.. and would be incredible if they mix the two.. although thats my thoughts
They can go absolutely where ever they want with it.
November 4th, 2008 at 5:17 pm
let us say that the national treasure is truly our national treasure Fort Knox, of which there are two, The original Fort Knox is in Maine and is the home of one of the tallest observation towers, there are four of these towers in four different countries, The forts are named after major General Henry Knox from the revolutionary war and he ended up being the first Secretary of war, the second fort is in Kentucky, where almost all of our treasure is secured in numerous vaults underground, The treasure in Fort Knox could be and probably “Life Altering”,
The first fort Knox was to protect us from British naval invasion and is shaped like the Pentagon, Now suppose that Captain Jack sails off into the sunset and follows his compass and ends up at the original Fort Knox “time era ”
Match OK, At the same point in time 230 – 240 odd years later Gates tracks down info that Henry Knox on orders from George Washington Commanding general at the time has hidden the New Americas total Gold fortune in Fort Knox But he is in Kentucky not Maine But Jack Sparrow is in Maine and has found the Countries fortune and is now on a trek to hide his new found treasure, So the total gold depository that is to be in Fort Knox is and has truly never been there, page 47 has the key information that gates needs to travel back in time to find Jack and the treasure which jack being Jack has hidden all over the world, The four towers metioned earlier one in China one Slovakia one in Thailand, and the one in Fort Knox Maine, that is your country hopping and a connection to the Pirates movies, Now you dont have Depp and Cage fighting for screen time plus cage could not hold his own against Depp on screen at the same time anyway, Now you two movies telling one story with jack still looking for the fountian of youth to cuddel his treasure, and Gates trying to return the gold to the Kentucky Fort Knox before the country finds out that the treasure was missing for 200 plus years, and yes some of the treasure could be that of the lost Dutchman mine, Jack as a sailer could have sailed down the colorado river to Az. There is a story line to follow here with cameos for both and a good strong finish for both movies, “Just some thought ” After all there is over 200 years of history in our countrythat should be told
November 4th, 2008 at 5:57 pm
still from #440 We know that George Washington was a Freemason, Knox may have been a Freemason Also, The four towers are portals for time travel through Area 51,
and Jack and Ben can cross paths throughout both movies , Sadusky and Wilkerson can be time travelers themselves allowing Wilkerson to escape the flooding cavern, and Sadusky being a Freemason can be Ben Gates ultimate back up man with the powers of the hidden government behind him with the Presidents support, and Wilkerson being an old pirate that had dealings with Jack in the past history at Fort Knox and followed jack through time also tying those four characters all together, could you imagine Sadusky and Barbosa dueling it out. the fountain of youth against the curse of the black pearl, OOOH the special effects
November 4th, 2008 at 6:11 pm
From #440 & #441 I forgot to tie in the first two N.T. Movies Major General Henry Knox was from Boston, Ben Gates saw in something in Boston in N.T. 1 that ties into the Presidents page 47 and the response of Gates in N.T. 2, Maybe the glasses in N.T. 1 and Jacks compass let them travel through time percisely, also the matching desks would tie Ben and Jack together along with the ship Charolett which could of been Jacks father Keith Richards Ship, Come on People We can write the purfect script ourselves that will do justice to both Sagas
November 8th, 2008 at 6:40 am
Love those 2 movies. Saw both at the theatre and bought both on DVD. I don’t buy the fountain of youth or ufo ideas. They are out of scope for these characters.
I think the reference by Riley to “Area 51″ is a deliberate red herring. The writers intended for us to be curious about page 47 in the “Presidents Book” and hoped to create a buzz. The visible “51″ on page 47 was obviously put there on purpose to lead us on and make people jump to conclusions.
I believe it’s the date of 1851 when the Library Of Congress burned and 2/3 of the books and documents were lost. The plot of the story may be that the fire was deliberately set to try to destroy certain documents stored in the Library. Page 47 contains information about some historical documents that could change current beliefs about early America. So the plot could go in any direction. Gates is an historical expert and a treasure seeker so there is probably going to be opportunity for both. I don’t believe that Wilkinson’’s reason for wanting to find the treasure was fully explained so it’s possible he is still living and the story will intertwine. Gate’s mother also said something about a greater understanding of a language and that would allow her character to be involved in future plots as the story probably will involve other cultures. So it is possible that the script may have at least 2 story lines which somehow intersect.
Whatever happens it can’t change real history or fix a currently unfixed problem. While it’s only make believe it has to feel real. In the end, American history will be confirmed and unprovable treasures will be found.
November 8th, 2008 at 11:21 am
IF they did cross POTC with NT, It wouldn’t be that hard to do. Especially with the rumors I have heard about nobody but Jack wanting to do a fourth movie.
If not, they should find a way to tie in American History. If they go off to investigate the Stonehenge, they’re going to have to rename this thing “International Treasure”.
November 8th, 2008 at 8:27 pm
The phrase was “LIFE ALTERING” I have the answer to the riddle! If the writers would like to contact me I would gladly tell them about what was on page 47. It’s a bold statement I know but we could take movie goers to a totally new place never seen before. I don’t claim to be better than anyone else who has written comments but my answer to the riddle is “LIFE ALTERING”. Think of my comments as an anomaly and thats what they are looking for. The history I speak of is not as it seems, people have missed what was was right in front of them. NO CHARGE!
November 15th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
I think an interesting idea to cover for NT3 would be the infamous Kohinoor diamond which would put Queen Victoria back in some controversy. This would make a good storyline because of rumored stories about India and Great Britain fighting over the rights of it. Also, there are people of Indian and British descent who claim to be descendants of people who discovered the diamond. There are tales of people being cursed by the diamond–good Hollywood stuff!
November 16th, 2008 at 12:06 am
I tried to read all this before posting, tedious & repetitious as it is, and I don’t think anyone mentioned this…
I saw on another site that someone claiming to be an assistant to John Turtletaub said the writers were exploring the Lost Colony idea. While this does not seem “Life Altering”, it was, at the time, an exploration of “new worlds” and “new civilizations”, and it would be international. And, as someone else above said, making it “life altering” is what the writers are paid for…
But, as was mentioned by one of the saner voices above, they will do whatever they want to do. It will be in keeping with the franchise that has made them so much money, and, hopefully, it will be just as fun and (mostly) educational as the first two.
Personally, I am insanely curious as to what was on Page 47, and hope they use that idea for the sequel. But you do all realize, there really isn’t a Page 47… right?
November 16th, 2008 at 2:44 am
Just a minute! I am a new comer to this site, and just saw the movie recently. But it seems to me that the President asked Ben to take a look at page 47…Humm here is my thought. It CANT be any of the conspiracy theories that are out now a days, but how about something relating to George Washington??? Remember, Ben said to the President, that he knew the Pres was a big Washington history buff, and great admirer of the first president. How about page 47 being about some secret about Washington that was alluded to on page 47, but never proven or researched. Something about the formation of this country and Washington’s real role in it, or lack of role. Or maybe something in Washington’s past. That would truly be life altering. At least “American Life” altering. I am not saying that they should defame Washington, but they could play with this scenario without tarnishing Washington’s name or contribution to this country, maybe they could use this idea in such a way that it actually increases his contributions.
To me that would be awesome story crafting, as well as excellent use of literary devices such as foreshadowing. Great writing just doesn’t happen, great writing is truly an art form which is crafted through the use of great literary techniques. After all, the creators of these techniques also created some of the greatest literature in the history of the world.
November 16th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
I think that page 47 refers to the lost army of cambyses. Which was an army sent out by the Persians which consisted of 50,000 solders which got caught in a sand storm and were never seen again till about 500,000 years ago when a dealer found body’s washed up on shore.
November 16th, 2008 at 9:20 pm
just wanted to add a couple comments, i have seen both movies at least a dozen times and cannot wait for a 3rd. i dont believe that nt3 should be outside the country nore about another dreamed up reality of a fountain of youth there are too many already. the reason the movies did so well is they do have american history that most people would have never known………….. TO THE WRITERS… get away from the wars too much ruins a good thing take it to the west teach us something that will blow our minds.!
November 18th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
page 47 should include the philippines from world war ii when the US was there. A lot of theories speculate that the famous yamashitas treasure from the japanese war loot was mostly recovered by the US of which financed the cold war. How did an almost bankrupt japan and US become rich all of a sudden. Also why did general yamashita himself hardly given a trial and hung quickly. Although there is speculation and little proof and of course noone would admit this. It’s a nice treasure hunting topic. Since the philippines is deep in old US history, there is almost no mention of it in movies at all. Kinda like a forgotten topic. Manila was the second most devastated city after one in europe.
This for page 47 would make a great topic, it would bring cage to asia (philippines), which if you do your research has a fascinating american history to it.
November 19th, 2008 at 2:13 pm
Kevin….That is an excellent storyline. I forget about the hidden treasure in the Philippines. I may be wrong but would there be worth billions in hidden gold over there? What about Hitlers hidden gold. Hollywood could make something of it. Good ideas. I like the thought of conspiracy theories and secrets involving WW 2. Great stuff!
November 19th, 2008 at 2:18 pm
I also want to say that even if the writers persue a storyline where the characters have to go international to persue it…writers can always ty the USA to it. After all, surely ppl realized that the Templar Treasure didn’t land or was hidden in the New World. Surely, ppl new that the City of Gold was in fact only a legend.But, still Hollywood made it fascinating to watch and wonder if it could be possible!!
November 19th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
well i look at it this way the movie is called national TREASURE so there 4 it is gonna be about a treasure so the fountain of youth would be stupid and lost cities unless made of gold or something would also make no sense
November 21st, 2008 at 9:31 pm
the movie is not set to come out until 2010
November 22nd, 2008 at 5:07 pm
I do like the idea of a WW2 theme for the 3rd movie, especially since there are many legends of lost treasures during the fall of germany. Including several museums worth of original art
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:26 pm
Well I am looking to go into film myself, so what do you think of this. After The Revolutionary War the Native Americans tried conquer the US, but had no money to do so. So King George the third gave them not money, but a map. Which was giving to him as a gift. Which tells of a treasure that was devoted to the Gods in order to give them more food during the ice age. Which is said to have fossils, gold, art, and other values. But why would the president care. The treasure is said to have the moons wait in diamonds, which of coarse is not accurate. And he plans to use it in order to help lower the country’s debt.
November 23rd, 2008 at 7:27 pm
I like your ideas but we cant use gold again.
November 27th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Its perfectly feasible, given the Washington mention by the “President” in Part 2 that the 3rd one will center around George Washington.
The first one made mentions and references to Jefferson and Franklin, the second one centered around Lincoln and the third one can move around Washington.
It covers 4 of the most revered figures in U.S. history and could wrap up the series nicely.
The Library Of Congress theory with the “51″ in the book is a good jumping off point.
November 27th, 2008 at 10:00 pm
i loved the first 2 movies. i think that the 3rd will be about atlantis. when his 2 people came in with the paper and said that ben was in the paper again he said what did he find now atlantis. hahahaha i figured out that it is a clue movie and they give us clues to the other movies
November 28th, 2008 at 1:31 am
i think it should still be based around american history but they should go on to WW2 and find a treasure like the red room and other artifacts lost during WW2. that would be altering enough and it all of the artifacts lost from 2 different invasions one by germans and then russians invading germany it can be almost anything.
November 30th, 2008 at 8:56 am
These movies are great, I’d watch one every week if I could….well at least every 2-3 years definantly!!!!
Let’s face it…THE WORLD NEEDS MORE MOVIES LIKE THIS!
It encourages anyone, especially children to take an interest in history and further enhance their academic knowledge.
My best knowledge, see’s a third epic heading in the direction of the Roman’s, Greeks or Egytions…let’s face it….the possibilties are endles with these alone, throw some religion in there and somehow link it back to American history, and relate it to modern day landmarks and locations and you have got yourself a winner that could pull a big audience.
Also India, China or maybe Japan would be fascinating to work into a NT Movie…but the above would be sweet.
Longer movie length would be ideal….(just cant get enough)
Anyway, that’s the view from a 24 year old Australian Male.
Thanks for reading and sharing your thoughts.
December 1st, 2008 at 1:41 am
I didn’t think i would be that into this movie but after the ending and dieing to know what is on Page 47, I can’t wait to see the next movie. I wonder what page 47 could be about???
December 1st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
At the end Gates sais, ” life ..”
so I was thinking about the fountain of youth
wich is located in florida (pirates of the carribean 3)
it will remain a national treasure instead of a international one
peace out
December 2nd, 2008 at 4:49 am
its about the usa 1st african american presedent.”"OBAMA”
December 4th, 2008 at 7:06 am
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December 6th, 2008 at 1:25 am
if you read all the entries there are some great ideas. as i just watched NT2 and the movie is fresh in my mind i would like to share my views.
for starters the bases of both adventures are based on the involvment of a preson form the gates family. the first had a little boy from the gates family receiving a letter about charalotte and the second had a little boy hearing is fathers dying words.
secondly both treasures found consisted of lost histories or ancient histories. each treasure ben gates searches for he mentions giving them back to the people, “alot of history buried down there”
the treasures are not about gold, but about lost history and civilizations. i think the gold is just added in because treasure is usually aligned with gold.
each storyline revloved around an american war.
another twist is that each treasure is pursued by an opposing army and if they obtain such a treasure it could have changed the outcome of the war, american history or world history.
the treasure is always found on american soil.
masons are always in the storyline.
at mt. rushmore gates mentions how he read about the letter in a book. people have mentioned it was rileys book, but riley was taken back as if he never knew about the letter from queen victoria to general pike. one the of the letters is mentioned in the presidents book, as it was intercepted.
we also know that mitch wilkinson was a decendant of general pike as a stated in the movie, not a decendant of john wilks booth.
the movie title is called national treasure, not international treasure. these movies are made famous by imploying certin aspects of american history, events and structures into a creative storyline for our entertainment.
international sites are only used as a way to obtain information on the treasures whereabouts or the history behind them for further enlightenment.
as for page 47, i think is just a page number with some very interesting information on it. i don’t think is got anything to do with 1847, 1947 or any other hundred year you can place in front of it. we can only take from page 47 that it is the forty seventh page and anything on it would have been writen by a earlier president than pres. coolidge as the entry written by him about the wood plank was in 1924.
lets say the entry on page 47 is from 1850 as a estimate. atlantis and its energy source would not work. what did we know about renewable energy as cars and planes where not invented yet. folk in those days did not care about air pollution or electric power sources and they certainly were not depentant on oil.
therefore having a renwable energy as people have stated they would find on atlantis would not be a concern of the people or president of that time era. i dont think they would have even understood it, and no disrespect to the people of atlantis (if the existed), but what could they really have figured out that we cant with all the science and technology we have. “we put a man on the moon for heavens sake” or did we? lol.
another interesting side note i did not see mentioned on this site (or i missed it) is that sandusky said something like “someone writes a book about american conspiricies and you think we dont know about it”. he later in the following scene does admit there is a book, but that line would indicate that he knows something, right?
so if we keep with the movie story board what war is going on when a decendant of ben gates is a young teenager. war of 1812 does fit, but wouldn’t the gates family know of anything that there family was involved in at that time. plus that would make this new child the father of thomas gates that was shot in NT2.
it would seem very akward that a person from the family is always around during a war and a prospect of treasure, wouldn’t it?
i dont see NT3 involving area 51, it wouldn’t fit. it doesn’t have a world history behind it.
the fountain of youth, its not gates style. plus to find something like that would not be good for american business, people would kill over it, fight wars over it.
i dont see egypt either as at the end of part one they gave some of the templar treasure back to egypt. remember the “opening in cario” as they are walking at gates house in part one?
so the question is what would be life altering and written in a secret book about 1820-1880 that the president of the united states needs the help of a historian for? and of course it has to be buried underground.
Black Gold? maybe … america needs it bad and a abundant of if would be life altering. world war II was sorta fought over oil, at least regarding japan.
american indian treasure/city buried in the grand canyon or in lake mead. history, treasure, on american soil … this could fit also.
how about a buried alien city covered up by our founding fathers. that find would be life altering.
what are your thoughts?
December 7th, 2008 at 4:46 pm
i think for national treasure 3 ben and his dad and abigail, riley,and ben’s mom should go to egypt and inside of a pyradmid find a secret room and leeds to a tomb and inside be a hole lot of gold,gems,,and other treasures
December 7th, 2008 at 4:49 pm
hello i just love page 47
December 7th, 2008 at 10:28 pm
The # 51 on the cell phone picture is on the phone and not the book. The 1st picture (of the plank) he took is picture #50 in his phone and the picture of page 47 is picture #51 in his phone.
December 8th, 2008 at 12:45 am
NT3 is about a famous American treasure thought lost forever.
Do a search for on Google for “missing treasure America” and you’ll find that the two biggest lost treasures in the New World are the pirate Blackbeard’s lost loot and the Aztec’s hidden treasure after Montezuma was killed by Cortez.
Gotta go with Blackbeard’s missing loot on this one…
December 8th, 2008 at 1:59 am
I look forward to #3 in the series. I loved the first one. The second one wasn’t as tight knit, with one clue leading into another as the first one was, but I enjoyed it as well. Book of Secrets to me failed when it came to the idea of the treasure and the site of the treasure at Mt. Rushmore. It’s just too far fetched to believe that a slave named Esteban caught by the Indians off the Florida coast would have been taken 1500 miles inland to the Black Hills to be shown a treasure, as mentioned in the movie. That type of travel was unheard of in those times. It’s just too far feteched to believe that the Aztecs or Olmecs (whoever is credited in the film with building the lost city of gold) would have built it so far from central Mexico where the Aztecs and Olmecs lived. I also just didn’t buy the idea of a lever inside the “noble bird” triggering the fall of boulders on the other side of a chasm that revealed the entrance to the city of gold. Ancient people simply didn’t have anything near that kind of technology. To me, film #1 had better and more logical clues and allowed me to suspend disbelief better. I can suspend disbelief enough to believe that a templar treasure could exist in an underground complex in Washington, D.C. Also, in #2, the inscription of the Statue of Liberty in France was clearly referring to the two “twins” as the two statues of liberty, one across the ocean from the other, not two desks. How the writers shoe-horned the idea to have it stand for two desks was also a big stretch. The plot behind #2 was just a little more contorted and forced than the one in #1. I loved the acting, the camerawork, the sharp editing, and the directing of #2. I just wasn’t as taken in by the second film as I was the first because it didn’t create as cohesive a world. As some people have expressed in this thread, it was the series of historical revelations in the first film that really gave it a unique charm. I hope #3 (if there is a #3) gets back to that aspect more strongly.
December 12th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
I always thought since the first time I saw NT:2 was pg47=1947 year of roswell. IMHO that was my first hunch when I first saw the movie. But since it’s just a hint and not set in stone they could do anything they want with the 3rd movie anyway
December 18th, 2008 at 1:31 am
I know what is on page 47. Tis a secret.
December 19th, 2008 at 7:24 pm
friend has given the link has not regretted that has come
December 22nd, 2008 at 1:43 am
you know croanok? or somthign like that……the word the pilgrams left on the tree when they came back? maybe they could find like an inner civilisation of the world that is in the center of africa………the part that where no one has entered i think it should be on page .47 that there is like a secret plant or some sort of tectnology that is in area 51 that could help track some sort of civilisation………but hey im just a kid i only know what would be fun for a kid to see and i know that a billion kids i know would just love to see another movie……………i love those movies!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!an ill be sure to buy it!
December 22nd, 2008 at 10:21 pm
Roanoke, but we know what you meant.
December 23rd, 2008 at 1:11 pm
ahhhemm i just have one thing to say ATLANTIS!!!!!!!ATLANTIS!!!!!!!! *coughs* that will be all ATLANTIS!!!!!!!!!!!
December 26th, 2008 at 2:09 am
47 is 4 and 7 which added together equals 11, the 4th prime number. When added together, the first 4 prime numbers (1,3,7,11) equal 22. The fourth month is April, and the 22nd of April is my birthday. Therefore, page 47 is a copy of my birth certificate.
December 26th, 2008 at 3:30 am
Page 47 revealed how to use those 3 seashells.
Yes, I know that is in the future
December 26th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
two words
Beale Treasure
look it up
December 27th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
NATIONAL TREASURE #3 – The Tomb of Alexander the Great
Alexander the Great died in 323 B.C. after conquering the known world. He was buried in a mausoleum in one of the cities he founded, Alexandria, Egypt. For centuries after Alexander’s death, the world’s kings and queens including Roman Emperors went to Alexandria to pay hommage to Alexander’s mausoleum, including Julius Caesar, Cleopatra, Octavian, Caligula, Hadrian, Severus, and Caracalla. Although a Hellenistic Macedonian, Alexander the Great was virtually worshipped by Romans and others in the centuries after his death. But in 391 AD, Roman Emperor Theophilus outlawed paganism and pagan icons and the tomb had to be hidden by supporters of Alexander and it remains lost to this day. Some say the destruction of the great library of scrolls of Alexandria (the scrolls mentioned in National Treasure 1 and part of the recovered Templar Treasure) coincides with the decree of Theophilis (there are four periods given by historians for the possible destruction of the ancient library: Julius Caesar’s Fire in The Alexandrian War, in 48 BC, the attack of Aurelian in the Third century AD; the decree of Theophilus in 391 AD; the Muslim conquest in 642 AD or thereafter). Alexander’s tomb and all its riches was supposedly moved after that to Venice and hidden although no one has ever found it. Its whereabouts remains one of history’s greatest mysteries.
At the same time, there is a real order of Masons called the Ancient and Heroic Order of the Gordian Knot. They are a Masonic Order dedicated to keeping the memory of Alexander the Great alive. As you know, Alexander cut the famed Gordion Knot in Asia Minor (the knot that by prophesy supposedly could only be undone by the man who would conquer the world). The order was founded by German Masons and its highest level members are called “Keepers of the Royal Secret”. This is REAL STUFF. What is that Masonic secret? I think that Masonic secret is the location of the Alexander’s tomb.
The popular notion is that Freemasons started in Scotland in about 1598. But there are other traditions within Masonic beliefs that the Masons inherited their brotherhood from the Free Masons who built the great cathedrals of Europe, who in turn inherited their secret knowledge from the Roman Collegia of Builders. The cathedral builders of Europe were called Free Masons because they were builders (from the French, Macon) and that they were free to move around from one build site to another (they weren’t tied to the plot of land where they were born, unlike serfs). That ancient Roman society of builders which was called the Roman Collegium would have been the ones to retain the secret of Alexander’s remains, handing it down through the ages to Masonic members of the Cathedral Builders and finally to the Masons we know today.
My idea for National Treasure III is that Romans faithful to the memory of Alexander the Great didn’t move his mausoleum and treasure to Venice. Instead, they fled from Emperor Theophilius and his decree for the destruction of Alexander’s tomb and went beyond the Pillars of Hercules and out into the Atlantic Ocean. They were swept up in a storm and eventually landed in Mexico, thus inspiring the legend of Quetzalcoatl (who the Aztecs described as a bearded white man who came to their shores long before Columbus). Quetzalcoatl then sailed away, promising to return, according to Aztec legend. I propose that the Romans sailed to New England where they found a lasting secret resting place for Alexander and his treasure. The Masonic Keepers of the Royal Secret (actual true names of the highest members of the Masonic Order called the Ancient and Historic Order of the Gordion Knot and dedicated to Alexander the Great that keeps a “royal secret” – the location of Alexander’s tomb in the New World). The information on page 47 of the President’s book would involve the fact that the Romans discovered the New World long before Christopher Columbus, back in the 4th century A.D. There have been disputed claims by some archeologists that there’s evidence that Europeans arrived in New England before the Vikings and before Columbus, according to ancient habitations that they have found.
National Treasure III could rely on the past two episodes. The scrolls from the Library of Alexandria recovered as part of the Templar Treasure could contain a secret message regarding Alexander’s tomb. The Aztec City of Gold in National Treasure II could contain writings or markings describing the arrival of ancient people in Mexico who accompanied Quetzalcoatl (the Romans). Maybe Ben even finds the Gordion Knot or the chariot that held it as part of a clue. Since Nicholas Cage wants to travel more abroad in the next episode, this episode could have him go to Germany (where the Masonic Order dedicated to Alexander the Great exists), Egypt (where Alexander was first buried), Italy, Mexico, and finally to the U.S.
Finally, in every story, there must be something at stake for the hero. Why would Ben go through the trouble of traveling the world to find this treasure? In both past episodes, it was to clear his family name, not for riches. I think this motivation has already been used and a new one must be found. What if it’s to clear his own name? What if the President’s Book goes missing and Ben is accused and imprisoned pending arraignment? Suppose the FBI finds an faint imprint into the old varnish on one of the Boston Tea Tables of the emblem of the eagle and scroll from the cover of the President’s book? This would be planted evidence by the true villain, who wants Ben to solve the mystery of Alexander’s tomb and Ben has to solve this puzzle to clear his name and keep faith with the President as a man of honor. This villain would have computer and high tech knowledge on a par with Riley and was able to break into the Libary of Congress to steal the book to look at page 47.
December 28th, 2008 at 1:46 pm
Its interesting to note, the “Book,” the main theme of the 2nd film gets lost. The fact that story’s does not permit the characters not to have photo capable cell phones when needed is also strange. The reality is there is a real President’s book of secrets and I believe the government interviened in some aspects of the movie. Just like the saying “poetic Licence,” I guess there is a “Story writing” license. Movie is great fun – both of them. It would be interesting to see the third film doing something about the like of Jame Booth as several conspiracies say he lived his life out in France, – Page 47?
December 29th, 2008 at 11:50 am
commment 71, I think is the most resonable idea of what might be on page 47. but everyone else has some good ideas as well.
December 29th, 2008 at 11:54 am
comment 71, I think is the most resonable idea to what might be on page 47. but everyone else had some good ideas as well.
December 29th, 2008 at 9:22 pm
I think that a major detail is being overlooked about page 47. If you look closely at the screen, you can see an image in the upper righthand corner of the book. It appears to be a white head surrounded by a black square. Its size seems to suggest that it is perhaps a stamp, a colonial stamp to be exact. It perhaps may be a British colonial stamp due to its appearance. This fact may reference that page 47 has to do with the British empires relationship to America and perhaps the world. A clue to an international treasure because a stamp indicates sending something a long distance. This is only a theory of course. Also, there appears to be a line which is crossed out at the bottom of the page; whose message may be important but not decipherable. I dont know…
December 31st, 2008 at 10:14 pm
Chuck – comment 480…
Well played Sir…
January 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pm
I sooooo… hope that they make a third movie because I’m dying to know what was on page 47. The person “J.S. Heart” up above that says where Ben says he read the thing about the Queen’s letter in “a book” he was talking about Riley’s book because they then show Riley kind of smiling about it.
January 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pm
If they’re going to go international with #3, they’ll need to plan a very daring break-in of a high security place in keeping with the previous two films (the national archives to steal the Declaration of Independence in #1 and Buckingham Palace and the Oval Office in #2). I can’t think of a more interesting and daring break-in than the Vatican library, where supposedly a lot of ancient secrets are stored. They could maybe connive their way into an audience with the Pope (all done in the best of taste, however, to avoid offending any religious sensitivities).
January 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 am
Here is a new thought while reading the nearly 500 posts. There was no mention, that I seen of, mentioning the Mayan Calendar. The rumored “end of days” is at the end of the Mayan Calendar, December 21, 2012. (12-21-12). The “life-altering” phrase of Cage’s character could mean that he figures out there is a new Mayan Calendar, which starts 12-22-2012. Thinking about the end of days only for it not to be true would be very much life-altering.
Another thought could be the truth about someone in the Bible being a direct, but extremely distant, relative of Ben Gates. Someone like the Roman guard who pierced the side of Jesus while he was on the cross at Calvary.
Whatever the movie is about, I am sure that there will be enough of us “National Treasure” fans who will pay to see it…thus paying for them making the movie with mega-tons of ca$h to profit from.
January 3rd, 2009 at 7:12 am
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January 3rd, 2009 at 7:17 am
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January 3rd, 2009 at 7:19 am
Sorr I do not understand what you want!!
January 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Hans said “you know croanok? or somthign like that……the word the pilgrams left on the tree when they came back?”
and Wesley replied, “Roanoke, but we know what you meant.”
Actually, Roanoke was the site of the first English settlement in the New World referred to at the time as “Virginia”. John White left and returned 3 years later to find CRO carved into a tree and CROATOAN carved into a fence post. Upon his departure White instructed settlers to carve their destination into a tree or post before they left.
Nobody knows what happened to the settlers, including Virginia Dare the first English child born in the New World, for sure, but in the late 1800’s it was written that some Indians in the area had light hair and eyes leading some to assume that the Roanoke settlers assimilated into the Croatoan Indian Tribe.
I doubt that is the premise of the movie seeing as it is a compelling legend, but hardly life-altering.
January 5th, 2009 at 9:07 pm
Ok, heres my idea…
Ben gets married to Abigail. He and Riley go to ancient mayan ruins to shoot a video for TV. He finds drakes tomb and gets captured by modern pirates. He meets a man named sully in thier jail named sully. Together, they break out and call abigail. She tells them shes on her way. In one of the buildings they find Drakes lost journal. Together they find El Dorado through a series of clues. Once they find it, they discover that it holds a curse. They sink it.
January 5th, 2009 at 11:54 pm
Wat is on page 47 the president says ben im curious about that favor i asked of you…any report Wats on page 47..ben says i believe i can help u with that….president says so its good then…ben says life altering…..
my opinion is wat is something that is life altering hmm i think for like an hour and honestly i think it might be the fountain of youth because its life altering it can alter your life if any 1 agrees with me e-mail me at the_atv_master@hotmail.com i would like to hear ur side of the story
January 11th, 2009 at 11:48 pm
All right. There are rumors abounding about there being a fourth movie, so as much as we may hate to wait, it would be logical to put the life altering treasure last. How would you even follow that up? NT3 could do the Beale ciphers like many have noted, or maybe the other six cities of Cibola since the original legend says there are seven. That way there’s a climactic sequence. I wouldn’t be surprised if Agent Sadusky’s freemason standing or Ian’s possible escape from jail come into play as well. There’s so much they could do with the treasure alone, not to mention Ben’s relations with everyone. Riley has gotten the short end of the stick many a time, and sadusky is still very intriging seeing as Ben’s gotten out of two arrests now. Who knows–2010 can’t get here fast enough!
January 13th, 2009 at 12:28 am
Ian, (Sean Bean), MUST escape from Prison… He ends up hiding and sending out assassins’ to kill Gates all the while leaving secrets and clues on where to find him along with a huge loot of stolen goods which he steals earlier in the film from the United States Archives or something. THAT IS A STORY!
January 15th, 2009 at 7:41 pm
they would never do this cuz it is so high up in religios beliefs but what if they hunted for the holy grail. it would be cool but i also would like to see them find the fountain of youth. it would be very cool to see. i want to see another POTC movie cuz jack sparrow ended in a boat looking for the fountain of youth. i cant wait for both to come out
January 18th, 2009 at 3:26 am
NT3 hm maybe Camelot,King Arthur, the sword in the stone, which could be tied into the templer knights and the crusades,
Maybe a stopover at Easter island and a trek through Scotland.either way, there’s always the Ben gates finds hoffa angle!
January 19th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
With all of these ideas of roanoke, atlantis, fountain of youth,…. WHERE’S THE TREASURE!!!! What about the other things other than the main idea. In NT1 they mentioned how bens parents split and never talked, now in NT2 their now in love again. In NT3 u know that they are going to live together or die or something. Also with riley he finds a women at the end of NT2, are they going to hook up, or is she really another treasure hunter trying to beat ben to it. There are so many other things that can happen to the story while on their journey to the treasure.
January 19th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I agree with some people, it could be about WW2. There is still about 25,000 pounds of Gold unaccounted for that the Nazi’s stole.
And there is some lost American treasure/ money ( I think about over 500 bill.) that is unaccounted for during the cold war.
January 21st, 2009 at 9:44 am
yeah and not to mention missing art and stuff the natzi idea is good but well thought out treasures r usualy left by clues that stood the test of time do u realy think 60 years is long enough to build a good treasure story with a lot of clues
January 21st, 2009 at 11:31 am
I loved both national treasures. I think that it would be awesome to make the movie about the lost city Atlantis. That sounds awesome. They said they would think about doing the fountain of youth but i like Atlantis way better.
January 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pm
Both were great movies. But no one knows exactly what is on page 47 because it hasent been written! But has anyone thought mabey it could be about the lost secrets of the Bermuda triangle? Or secret treasures found during the Louisiana Purchase. Any way i cant wait
January 21st, 2009 at 8:56 pm
Perhaps it has something to do with Hitler and other famous dictators of the time.
January 27th, 2009 at 1:55 am
I’m extremely glad that they are making the third movie and that there will also be a fourth one. I thought the second movie was absolutely brilliant but I also loved the first one almost as much. There are some problems and silliness associated with these movies in my mind, but I am willing to overlook them as they provide the best movie entertainment to me. What can be better than action, adventure, history, archaeology and cryptology mixed together!?
I can actually relate to this history of the Gates family based on my own, it’s fascinating to follow ones genealogy back, look for clues and how they impacted history.
Cannot wait for the third movie! I hope that it’s really something unexpected yet realistic, I don’t want it to third into mythology/fantasy as some commentators here suggest.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:52 am
jg- i totally agree with u if it is someting about egypt or the pyramids. if it is, i think it might b a quest to find the pyramid that’s on the back of the $1 bill or something to that effect. if it was, it would be both a nationl and international treasure
January 28th, 2009 at 11:50 am
Although it would be interesting if it were an international treasure as I just said above, I think it should still be based on this countries past.
One idea that I had was that it should be about the Roanoke settlers. I think that the movie should start out sort of like the 2nd one with Ben telling about his family’s past. I think that Ben’s ancestors should have come over on the ship with the people that found the clue that the settlers had left on the tree.
Also, if you have read the Gates Family mystery books, this proves logical as does theories about the West and the Louisiana Purchase.
January 28th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Matt(comment #474):
If you know what’s on pg. 47, you could at least give us a bit of a hint.
January 28th, 2009 at 4:39 pm
maybe NT3 will be about the past of the president’s family.
But some of the suggestions on here are fantastic.
January 28th, 2009 at 10:13 pm
I don’t see why they don’t just use the Fountain of Youth idea for both National Treasure 3 and Pirates of the Caribbean 4 at the same time, because that makes more sense if you ask me. And by the way, both Pirates series and National Treasure series are AWSOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
January 29th, 2009 at 8:21 am
First 2 parts were awesome
Looking forward eagerly for third
January 31st, 2009 at 4:11 pm
natlie- they would not use fountain of youth for both because which ever one comes out 2nd won’t earn as much money. Also, fountain of youth is fictional so they couldn’t use that for NT3
February 1st, 2009 at 11:13 am
Urm…. i think i’d definitely love the idea of Atlantis, since it’s awesome to see Ben & his gang go diving & looking for the place.
mainly coz Pirates otC will be doing fountain of youth & i think tht pirates do the fountain oY better than the NT..
& NT would do way better in Atlantis than Fountain oY.
There r lotsa ideas here tht is awesome!
but Atlantis wud be the best…. & also… i agree with the Alexander the Gr8 idea… tht sounds awesome too.
February 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
Waiting for the third installment
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 pm
I wonder what it would be like if Trevor Rabin would not score National Treasure 3 and Hans Zimmer writes a new score for it.
National Treasure 3
Original Themes By
Trevor Rabin
Score By
Hans Zimmer
Just an idea.
February 4th, 2009 at 8:57 am
i think ive cracked page 47 …
the book location in the library of congress..
XY-234786 gives it away with a bit of homework…
lets break it down
234786 and in the depths you will actually find that sequence is the GENOME CODE for HOMOSAPIENS now biology class at least taught me that ‘XY’ = MALE
Now put them together stating that it’ll be Life changing
Im betting on the “Evolution of Man” or something along those lines for NT3
February 8th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
I think this is the setting for a great movie.I have an idea that I’m going to shoot out there for you people.How about for instance as he says in the script he has to go to all these different countries to connect the peices of av greater puzzle gathering knowledge from all corners of the globe on the greatest mystery of all……..ATLANTIS.The society where we all originally came from but never knew because it was hidden from the world on a global scale.The first human society on earth,millions of years ago consisting of the missing peices of our very history.Think about it, virtually nothing is known about our history before the last ice age…..what if we could find out.Think about it.Also blending BRENDAN’S xy thing inti that would also be interesting
February 9th, 2009 at 5:18 am
how about the garden of eden as an option perhaps
along the lines of raiders of the lost ark
February 9th, 2009 at 10:46 pm
About the page 47 and the theory that it would be about the fountain of youth…
Pirates of the Caribbean 4 is going to hopefully be released in 2004. If any one followed that trilogy, then they’d know (if you havent seen it and dont want to ruin it for your self then dont read the following) that the end of #3 Jack steals the inside of the round map to go and find the fountain of youth.
So hopefully, DISNEY wouldn’t bore its audience by putting out 2 fountain of youth movies within the same few years. But then again who knows?!!
February 9th, 2009 at 11:08 pm
Page 47 has to be something big enough for a president to write about in this book. It must of occured or have been hidden, if it were Atlantis then the treasure hunters would have probably found it. I really hope its about roanoake because that would make the mystery of roanoake even more intense. The book of Secrets is like a timeline.
February 13th, 2009 at 5:49 pm
I’m so sorry i can’t read all posts… but I bet that in the third part of the move the mistery is something from our times. .. no so old ..is not the area 51 because he left the page with that thing in the second part.. when he looked up for that piece of wood …and the page 47 was after that page … what ever… i don’t think is Atlantida…(atlantis.) or Holy Grail ..the first one .. Atlants.. is smt almoust exactly .. the people know were this land was… (probably) and Holy Grail … it supose to be before this 2 stories…. I thins is a Treasure … because the move is based on this … or something about americans presidents….smt with masonery :X …. we will see in 2011:( ..I hope that the producer make the movie before .. in 2010
.. NATIONAL TREASURE RULLZ !!! GOOD MOVIE ..one of the best I ever seen. Sorry for my bad english .. 
February 14th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
I loved both of the NT movies and have read most of the posts here but there are over three years of posts here so I did not take the time to read all of them, sorry if I post something that seems redundant.
If the writers go with the 3rd containing Atlantis maybe they should tie in Atlanta, GA being some significance. I mean that city was on of the fastest growing towns in the United States and it holds a lot of history being tied into the Civil War as well as close ties to Charleston, SC and Savannah, GA.
The Oak Island Treasure is also fascinating but you would have to tie into the story somewhere northern European nations.
The Fountain of Youth could possibly be integrated into it if there was some significant story with it. I’m sorry but a story line based off of St. Augustine, FL and the Everglades just doesn’t seen to interest me as much as some of the other story lines that could be used.
If the writers go the route of starting out with the first Roanoke Colony started by Sir Walter Raleigh they would have to include the colony of Jamestown founded by Capt. James Smith and the Native American Tribes.
Which ever story line the writers go with will defiantly need to bring forth the meaning behind the reference to page 47. History though does show us that whatever is entailed of page 47 means it was pre-World Wars. Can’t wait to find out what number 3 will bring us.
February 15th, 2009 at 9:10 pm
I don’t think that NT3 will have anything to do with Area 51, the Fountain of Youth, Atlantis, or the ones that numerous people have already mentioned. Those just seem very predictable, and I think that the hints that might support the theories for those two ideas are false leads. I expect – well, I hope – they’ll take a different spin on things that will make it more interesting.
I like the idea of it being about Roanoke Island, because what I love about the National Treasure movies is that they’re exciting and interest you in history. I would love for it to be about a history mystery not known to everyone but still interesting.
I’m a little torn on the idea of it going international. I mean, I think international history is very important and it would make for a great plot should they base it on international history, but I think that keeping it in American history could really help Americans gain a sense of pride and interest in their country’s past. I’d like for it to be about American history but also expand internationally a little as well, keeping it in America but also allowing Gates to find clues and have adventures around the world as well.
Or they might take a historical event that is not a mystery at all and question what really happened. They might even go into the future, perhaps with Gates stumbling upon a portal that transports him into the future.
Or they could just ignore the whole ‘page 47′ idea and leave it open for us to imagine about. Not that I’d like them to – I would be incredibly disappointed if they did. But they could.
February 16th, 2009 at 9:35 pm
@Luna- although keeping it American history, movies are made for the international market… im an Aussie and would have he foggiest clue about Roanoake ? god i had to google it … it’ll be the same as making a movie about Capt Cook settling in Sydney Harbour…not interesting enough for the world market. The movie Australia was a flop in the USA but broke box-office records here …
February 16th, 2009 at 10:19 pm
Anybody ever consider that maybe the president just doesn’t know how to dance and thats whats on page 47? Maybe he’s just very embarassed by this and figured that he wouldn’t be judged by Ben or any of his predessecors. Maybe it’s just one big gag for us to go see the next one which you know all of us will. Just think about it.
February 16th, 2009 at 11:12 pm
Ok, some asked the producer what is on Page 47.Sorry to break it off to you guys but the government trust me wouldnt let you make a movie dealing with anything about Are51 I am like 100 percent sure they wouldnt let you make any commenst about it in a movie.Now back to the topic, so someone askes the producer about what is on Page 47 and he anwsers back by saying this exact comment not made by me anyone else!
Jon Turteltaub(Producer):“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.”
February 16th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Star Trek as we all know is…Atlantis so here it is guys the thing that is going to be in the movie is Atlantis!
February 17th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I hope they come up with a third movie. The first and second ones were so fantastic!! I REALLY want to know what is on page 47.
February 17th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
Nop .. NT3 will be not with Atlantis..or with Fountain of Youth .. because … the first one .. dont have nothing in comun with american history .. and Fountain of Youth will be the next Pirates of Caraibean … and Area 51… is out of page…. u saw that in NT2
February 20th, 2009 at 11:39 am
Recently finished watching NT2-the book location is XY-234786. I don’t no what it means but it may help.
February 22nd, 2009 at 1:20 am
oh, so you’ve been in my desk too?!?!!
February 22nd, 2009 at 4:33 am
@ Iluvnt
“Recently finished watching NT2-the book location is XY-234786. I don’t no what it means but it may help.”
read my post #518
March 1st, 2009 at 2:25 am
as far as post #528 do you remember Indepence Day. Come on were else would Will Smith had taken that ugly thing to other than area 51. These two movies have been great. If and when they do another one you can be sure of one thing and that is I will be there.
March 1st, 2009 at 7:28 pm
I think they should name part 3 “National Treasure ”
residents Quest
March 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 pm
National Treasure 3: Page 47
Coming out: 2011
March 7th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
well what if page 47 has something to do with all the countries of the world together? and they go off to look in each of them of course sneaking around to get to each document what if that place was the fountain of youth or atlantis something that each culture has in its past and history or even they could go into Jesus and his tomb? or they could finish what they started with ab lincion (sorry if i spelled it wrong) im a total history geek and i love these kinds of movies i dont want them looking for the wrong thing in these movies.
March 7th, 2009 at 11:26 pm
another thing is why keep making a big deal about it why not stick to the U.S.A. for a little bit longer and then go out to the world i know they went to Paris and England but that was because those played a key role in Civil War which is what the movie was looking at. why cant they go up to the great depression or even nixion and the missing tapes again sorry if i spelled it wrong something that makes our imagination go wild and gets us really thinking hard. just a thought what if it had to do with how the atomic bomd that hit Japan was constucted and gotten all the way over there?
March 8th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
its about ufos
March 15th, 2009 at 5:32 pm
are these people only let out now and again to the real world make the film so the rest of us can go get a pop corn a drink of coke and just sit back and enjoy is that not enough !!!!!
March 30th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
I hope there will be a National Treasure 3 and that we will learn what is on page 47 ~ where they left off inthe second film.
Atlantis perhaps or the legendary Fountain of Youth?
Will the “Gates” family figure into it or will Ben Gates be working for the President on this?
The previous 2 films have figured heavily on two wars and hidden treasures … but what other mystery could be solved?
Perhaps this will follow along the books and the Louisiana Purchase … maybe some lost French or Spanish gold?
JUST MAKE THE FILM!!!!
April 6th, 2009 at 7:47 pm
The only problem with making this a non-American, “Inter-”National Treasure, effort is that Ben Gates is, at the core, an American Patriot, with his extensive knowledge of American history. To that end, I don’t see a problem with following clues around the world, but it would take away from his character as an unapologetic American history buff, unless the clues had their genesis with American history, particularly starting about the time of the revolution.
Frankly, I do agree that the treasure should be internationalized, but they should ensure that the character and underlying theme is based on American revolutionary exceptionalism.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pm
I think the movies ROCK! they have to make another movie. If they don”t, about 1,000,000 people will be let down. Also, I think they should ask a kid to be in the next movie. I wonder if It is going to be about the fountain of youth because at the end of National tresure 2 ben said it’s “life altering” and he is going to live forever to search for treasure.
April 6th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I agree with Ethan, but probrably over 1,000,000 people would be devistated. They should definetly make a third movie to complete the trilogy!!! National Treasure ROCKS OUT LOUD!!! MAKE THAT THIRD MOVIE AND PUT IT IN THE THEATERS!!!!
April 12th, 2009 at 11:33 pm
I have read a lot of your visions but one thing is for clear, they mad it a myster so they have the option of making a third one or not and to make it on what they want. We can guess all we want but its a good way of making people think that a third moviewill come out, and to get us thinking about what it will be on. I enjoy the movies very much and hope that they do come out with a third movie. Also in the secound movie I beleave that Michal is actually working for someone and that his family did not have the page all these years. Thats just my thoughts though.
April 15th, 2009 at 7:25 pm
i love national treasure! i have seen the first one about 11 times and it never gets old! i saw the second one maybe 6 or so times and i still love it. riley is so awesome. i am waiting anxiously for the third movie to come out. i hope riley will be in it more than the last two, but who knows. i love national treasure and hopefully it will come out before my next birthday, because i want to take all my buds there. this is the bast movie ever, and if you disagree, you are making a huge mistake, because the box offices got sold out when it came out, therefore, alot of people love it SO LOVE IT TOO!!
April 17th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
i like adore national treasure! Nicholas Cage is my favorite actor. i knew from the momment that the pres. told ben to take a look at page 47 there was going to be a third movie.
April 18th, 2009 at 3:37 am
may be NT3 could be that they find all of the worlds lost treasures, give them back to their countries of orgin and every one could pay off and have a ZERO defiset, then this tax payer nightmare ride will come to an end the the world can go back to it’s fun loving ways and NO ONE would be in debt and the United States all 50 of them could all have balanced budgets, then we could all get some worry free deep sleep, NOW THAT WOULD BE LIFE ALTERING
April 20th, 2009 at 1:53 am
im soo excited, i luved the othr 1s and hav seen them heaps of times. i cant wait till da third 1 cums out.
maybe the nt3 could include ancient myths and sum things about greek and aztec gods or sumthin that wuld b cool.good luck makin the nxt national treasure!!! : )
April 26th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
I did not go through reading all the comments, I read about 1/4 of them. Both of the National Treasure movies have been my all time favorites since the first one hit theaters. when the 2nd one was in theaters i litterally saw it at the movies 6 times. no joke. history has always been my favorite subject in school since 7th grade when i started taking history classes. im going to be a senior starting in august and have decided that American History is going to be my major at college… So these movies are definately a fun time for me to watch.. Nic Cage is my all time favoirite actor, espicially since I saw The Knowing. I never get tired of NT and NT2.
For NT3 I knew it was going to be about pg 47… I dont think it would have to do with anything about peru because that was what indiana jones 4 was based off of. like the conquistadors, incans, and aztecs, im sort of clueless as to what it would be, but i do agree with nic cage that taking these movies to egypt would be interesting. i think that would be soo cool.
as for “life altering” im not sure. i love the idea of roanoke that people above me have said, but that i dont necessisarly (sp?) would be “Life Altering”.
Those of you who were arguing about the Queen’s letter being on pg 47 thats not true. Remember when they were in the library of congress and ben took a pic of a page in the book on the cell phone, the location is the combination what the president told him in the underground passage. that was where the queen’s letter was. which obviously was not page 47 nor in riley’s book “The Templar Treasure”.
For PG 47, it could possibly be Area 51, remember when they were in a hurry flipping through the book and riley got excited and was like “area 51!! area 51!” and ben said “we dont have time to look at it right now!”. and then he turned the page really quick. thats my theory, im sorry if somebody already said it above, i didnt want to read that much LOL.
Anyways, I frekaing love these movies and nic cage, ive been waiting for a 3rd one since the first time i saw the 2nd one its first day in theaters back in 07.. im so excited. i hope they make a 4th and a 5th and so on. because these movies are sooo interesting and well written i dont think people will just get tired of them. usually i hate sequals but i thought that NT2 was like 10x better than NT1. so yeah.
angela.
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 pm
These movies are my absolute favorite!!!!!!!!!!!
Watch some youtube videos–one has a pretty good idea…
that all the National Parks are cover-ups for treasures–could work!
I dont know
but I HOPE that a third and beyond do happen
They are amazing and I learned so much from watching them!
Amazing
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pm
OH 1 more thing
I think another good idea would be something Biblical area based–TONS of history there and amazing
any European thing would be good too–maybe Germany or Austria—MILLIONS OF IDEAS
They could make like National Treasure 1,000,000: The Final QUEST
LOL
SJ
May 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pm
Sorry for my name–HUGE FAN OF SARAH PALIN
I think that these movies are great–whether you are a history buff or not.
Europe or Biblical Area would be good
Maybe a sunken ship in Caribbean (I’m thinking Fools Gold)
or Out West–Lewis and Clark, or Oregon Trail
World War II would be great
OR another Civil War thing (Like Sahara)
AMAZING MOVIES–GREAT MUSIC AND PLOT
THANKS TO THOSE WHO WRITE, DIRECT, PRODUCE, AND DIRECT THESE! YOU ARE A GODSEND!
SarahPalin’s #1 FAN!!!
May 4th, 2009 at 5:56 am
i totally loved NT 1 and 2..
it’s intelligent and it gives us a good glimpse of the American history.. not to mention, the cast did a very good job in portraying their roles..
about the NT 3 craze, I’d also like to give my ideas on this.. someone mentioned in comments that the president’s book might have been written in chronological order.. so the idea that the “secret” might also have been revealed in the book during the 1700-1800’s is quite logically possible.. after all, page 47 in all books is still in the earlier chapters, right?
so maybe, they’ll focus on events that happened during that time frame, or even earlier but definitely not after that period [so the area 51 or WWII ideas may not be possible]..
but then there are a lot of possibilities, which are mentioned in the comments [I won't write them all because it'd be so redundant..]
anyway, I’m looking forward to NT 3! I do hope they’ll make it as good, or even better than the previous ones.
another note, I think it wouldn’t hurt for NT to go international.. after all, they’ve been searching for clues in London and Paris.. i think it wouldn’t make the film less interesting if they broadened their reach..
May 4th, 2009 at 6:03 am
oh yeah, but they said that page 47 wasn’t the sole basis of the movie.. so maybe page 47 was just a clue or something that might lead to the ‘life-altering’ thing..
May 4th, 2009 at 11:17 pm
Reading some of the comments, i was very surprised bout the impact of NT. Well, discussing treasure plus history is fun!!!
Well, for me. page 47 could mean a “treasure hidden outside America”. I think its not the Fountain of Youth were most of the European and American voyager were looking for, and i don’t even think its the Atlantis. What i am thinking is a kind of “treasure” that will benefit all human race. Liike, evidence of the NOah’s Arc, the missing link perhaps, these are some possible insights i can think about page 47.
But, if I am correct, why only the US presidents knew about this/these secret/s?
Is that unfair?
Anyway, whatever was written onthat page, we will see it on NT3…soon!
May 6th, 2009 at 9:14 am
I can’t wait to see the third National Treasure if there is one I think it would be jusst as good as the first 2.
May 6th, 2009 at 10:07 pm
In my economics class, we were watching a movie about Fort Knox. In the movie, they said that Fort Knox is the basis of National Treasure 3
May 10th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
Did no one notice when the head of the FBI heard that Ben was in the papers he said “What did he find this time? Atlantis?” I think that was hinting to something. Atlantis is definitely a probability for the next National Treasure. And it would make it quite interesting. Either way whatever the next movie is about I hope it comes out soon and before 2011! I can’t wait 2 more years!!!
And whoever said that Ben should drop his girlfriend… Movies need SOME romance! With Abigail in the picture it makes it more interesting. Because you know that if something happened to either Ben or Abigail it would really stir them up. It makes you kind of hold your breath cuz you know they like each other and you don’t want anything to happen to either of them because they love each other. It would be heart breaking. Besides, what do you have against girls anyway? Lol
Go National Treasure! And I love you Nicolas Cage!
May 11th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
Looking back to all the comments on NT 1 and 2 it is obvious that the next movie is going to Egypt and the mysterious Pyramids or Stonehedge in the UK..
Hope to hear about NT3 soon.
May 12th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
I can’t imagine NT 3 without the Abigail Chase character included. I could do with a sub for Cage, as I am not a fan of his acting. Diane Kruger, on the other hand, add some class and beauty to the franchise. Perhaps the person who thinks Abigail should be dropped is envious of Kruger’s beauty, or some other absurdity. Success no doubt lies with the Wibberleys and the other writers and scriptwriters. Given the clout behind the first two, I have no doubt that NT 3 will be great.
May 17th, 2009 at 1:35 am
emilia airheart and bumuda triangle
May 22nd, 2009 at 9:24 pm
Who is the woman who asks for Reillys autograph at the end of the movie below Mt. Rushmore? Any clues?
May 24th, 2009 at 2:11 pm
I loved both NT movies and whatever they come up with will be fine with me as long as the whole cast returns. I’ve read a lot of interesting ideas on this site-some are very good and others are obsurd. I hope we all learn soon that NT3 is filming and will be out very soon-the public is sure waiting!
May 29th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
IMO I think that Page 47 in which Cage replies ‘Life Altering” The only things I could think of would be the Fountain of Youth, or the Holy Grail. I don’t think they would try for the grail since Indiana Jones already did a spoof on it during the “Last Crusade”, so I’m betting on the Fountain of Youth.
Who knows just gotta wait and see.
May 30th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
“Life Changing” sounds to me that we should question what we know about life. That could be our understanding of the origin of life or the future of life. Maybe about life other than our own due to the constant references to Area 52?
May 30th, 2009 at 8:14 pm
Make Sure The Girl Who Plays Abigail In The First Two Is In This One, She’s Mad
She Should Have A Baby XP
June 2nd, 2009 at 12:48 am
Here is an excerpt from an iterview with Nicholas Cage about NT3:
“Still, Cage already has ideas. “I believe that it should become more and more International Treasure,” he said. “I was very happy to see that we went to London, England and Paris, France, but I’d like to see the movie go wider still. I’d like to go into Africa, Egypt, Asia, and keep going. My hope is that Ben is recruited and he gets a dossier from these other countries about their history, and has to download it and learn it, and then try to go on these hunts on their behalf. That would be a lot of fun for me.”
I’m telling you, since the philippines used to be an american colony from 1898-1946, have yamashitas treasure be part of this, since this was directly involved with american history. The US gained the philippines through the spanish american war. Then with the signing of the treaty of versailles, they gained other countries as well. After the US got the philippines, there was a philippine american war as well. Alot of people think there was a great cover up with the gold looted throughout asia and the quick execution of general yamashita.
Much is not known about this type of american history involving one of its former colonies.
June 6th, 2009 at 7:50 pm
I am sooo anxious for the 3rd story to come out. I will never get tired of this cast, please keep the same stars.
June 11th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
OMG!!! i love all of jerry’s films especially pirates and national treasure!!!!
So i have done some prelim. research. the third movie has various ideas. these include sumthin to do w mitch, world war II (nazi/egypt),fountain of youth (POTC 4), atlantis, and roanoke island. my votes are 4 nazi and roanoke island.
and for tht idiot who thought they should get rid of diane kruger cuz its too sappy..ur probably just some freak who has never had a girl and will probably never get one…
keep up the success Jerry!!!!
June 11th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
i agree with maddi…
nick and diane SHOULD have a baby!!!!
tht would b great!!!!!
and cute too…
June 18th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Personally, “life-alterning” to me means one thing – The Fountain of Youth….
June 22nd, 2009 at 8:14 pm
To Rick, the girl’s name is Jaquelin. I think the 3rd movie should go to the lost colony of Roanoke, but Nicholas Cage wants to go international. One problem. The series is called National Treasure. Unfortunately, the main character doesn’t seem to realize that. Roanoke would be the sensible option because it was an American colony and there is enough mystery surrounding its disappearance to make a decent movie. But Nick Cage is famous enough to throw his weight around. Oh well, I suppose with Turteltaub and Bruckheimer at the helm it will still be an enjoyable film. I hope Jaquelin becomes a main player. Riley needs a love interest.
June 28th, 2009 at 8:24 pm
yea i dont know if anyone has said this yet so if someone has please dont shoot me. its sorta random but i think it might have something to do with Amelia Earhart. think about it, if she vanished on a mission, then probably the only person to know about it would be the president. i think it would be life alterating for alot of people to know what happened to Amelia Earhart. but sense no one knows and she might have just drowned…….i dont know. its just a random thought.
June 30th, 2009 at 4:50 am
I think that it would have to deal with the fountain of youth as the book location was XY-234786 and agreeing with brendan that this has to do with the evolution of man
June 30th, 2009 at 5:56 am
i have been surfing da net and found an article that some people in 1909 stumbled on egyptian treasure in the grand canyon. so now i am torn whether or not NT3 will be about the fountain of youth or egyptian treasure
July 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 pm
I loved National Treasure 1 & 2. Looking forward to the next 8 installments!!! Please remember these are movies not documentaries. This is fiction with a little bit of fact. The whole purpose is to entertain and to maybe inspire the need to research some of what is in the movie ie: the city of Cebola.
July 6th, 2009 at 11:28 am
I’m a big fan of National Treasure 1 and 2. Can’t wait to see the third one and hopefully 10 more! I will go see each and every one of them multiple times. However, I hope they stay on American-European themes and don’t go into exotic countries in South America, Africa or Asia. It just wouldn’t be the same, in my opinion.
Also, I’m hoping that they don’t do anything too extravagant and fantastic, like nothing to do with aliens please. I love how real history is mixed with fantasy, making it both somewhat realistic and very entertaining. Maybe some cover ops, conspiracies, failed alliances, “skeletons in the closet” of someone famous, that sort of thing would be awesome.
The absolutely BEST setting would be Dutch New York (New Amsterdam) of the mid 1600’s.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:17 pm
^^
By setting I didn’t mean that they should travel back in time, but that the mystery part should be set in colonial Dutch New York.
July 6th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
National Treasure 3 Page 47 could be the location of the rest of the Mayan Calender that ends in 2012. But we will just have to wait and see! I’m sure it will be worth the wait!
July 6th, 2009 at 10:56 pm
I loved the first two National Treasurer’s and I think that they should continue on. I have looked through the internet and read through all the possible rumors of the movies and I like the idea of page 47 containing information about the lost colony of Roanoke. I love that idea and think that disney should go for it. The idea of the fountain of youth is already taken and the idea of atlantis is already a movie!
July 7th, 2009 at 12:57 am
I also am one of the people who actually really enjoy these films. I find that I can watch them over and over, simply because of all the American history it has in it. I hope that both in keeping with the idea of the first two and in keeping with the title of the film itself that they don’t go more international and keep it dealing with “National” American treasure.
So far they seem to be dealing with things going on around American wars. The first one dealt with the revolutionary war, the second dealt with the Civil War. It might seem like the next place to go would be another war after that.. but not necessarily another war chronologically in time. I think that a good place for them to go in the third movie would be the War of 1812. It’s full of big figures like James Madison and Andrew Jackson, they could visit places like New Orleans… go over the story of the British burning the White House, and the story could maybe revolve around Dolly Madison saving different paintings and things from the British, maybe one of which was something to do with some sort of treasure.
Hopefully they won’t pull an Indiana Jones and stray too far from what the other films did or get into too unbelievable topics like the Fountain of Youth or Area 51 or something. The story and the treasure needs to be grounded on real things and real events. The first dealt with the real library of Alexandria and the second dealt with a (possibly) real mayan city of gold.
Just some thoughts of mine. Look forward to seeing the third! And unless they have a REALLY good story and script for a 4th, I think they should again learn from Indiana Jones and just leave the franchise as a trilogy.
July 11th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
I haven’t read all the posts, but, I think one point has not been made by any of the posters. The Book of Secrets has passed down through all the Presidents. In nearly 230 years of Presidential notations there has to be a great many pages that come after “page 47″. Ergo, the information on “page 47″ would have to have been written by one of our very earliest Presidents. I would opt for President Jefferson, in that he was well versed in classical studies. He was also a well traveled and functioned well in the international political scene.
July 13th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
I loved National Treasure 1 & 2 and I would love it if there was a #3! I think it would be better if the next treasure would be found somewhere else that in united states, like underwater or in a deserted island would be good.
P.S. I am a fan of National Treasure and I have all two movies!
July 16th, 2009 at 9:27 pm
National Treasure 3 will be about the Lost City of Atlantis. When Ben Gates finds the city he also finds that alien beings had been on earth and had left ways for our civilization to survive and give us power and technology so that we don’t destroy the planet with green house gases. Also I think when he finds the city there will be one alien who stayed behind to tell gates about the origins of life and how to harness this energy. If I were a producer and director that is what I would do with the story line. I posted a comment about Transformers 2 way before it came out, and I was exactly right about the entire movie. NEED A SCRIPT WRIGHTER GET IN TOUCH WITH ME.
July 17th, 2009 at 1:00 am
I am also a National Treasure fan as well and also a huge fan of U.S History. I’ve got the first NT films and a huge copy of the Declaration of Independence hanging on my wall too. I would love to see Atlantis in National Treasure 3!
July 19th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
page 47 is atlantis ,
July 20th, 2009 at 3:40 am
Well, you all…. the studio is gonna use all your ideas….those last two movies should be awful good…all you guys were…
July 27th, 2009 at 4:15 am
well i want to watch it
July 27th, 2009 at 1:32 pm
I have not read all the comments but the ones I did read had very good ideas But has anyone mentioned the verious obelisks around the world? We watched National Treasure 2 last night for the fourth time:) And I thought What an interesting idea the obelisks would make. Example The Washington Monument???
July 27th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
My friends and I have been brainstorming this one since NT2’s release. Of all our “what if” scenarios, I think we found one that sounded pretty good.
What if page 47 revealed details of a vast collection of european pirate treasures hidden somewhere inside the continental US? According to history a british sea captain named Cpt. James Kidd hunted down and destroyed several pirate ships in the Carribean and Spanish Main. Kidd himself was a master mason and though he put an end to piracy in the Americas, no pirate treasure was ever recovered from his campeigns. What if Kidd hid the treasure from his own government?
We thought it would be cool if Gates and his team followed clues to find this treasure. The synopsis would include using the Bermuda Triangle as a map, Arlington Cemetary as a mysterious tomb, and even throwing in the USS Constitution “Old Ironsides” as a possible key to the biggest clue. Gates would have to steal the ship, elude the navies of the Atlantic, follow the clues, and recover the treasure (mostly crown jewels) before the world blames the US for piracy.
Too bad none of us are Hollywood writers. This would be a cool movie.
July 29th, 2009 at 1:02 am
perhaps page 47 reveals the the lost treasure of atlantis which lost quite a long ago but may be it would refer to the maya calender which reveals that world would end in last of the year 2012 which is quite uncertain but may ben would try to solve the mystery behind the unknowing shapes that hav been created in the paddy field but on the whole it would be quite instresting to watch the third part of national treasure
July 30th, 2009 at 6:36 am
yeah i agree, atlantis!
except ben, his wife, reily, parents go on a holiday to greece. they are at a museum, whilst reading ancient inscriptions Ben discovers a map or coordinates leading to spain. they find some kind of monument and a riddle, signifying the bermuda triangle where a spanish ship went missing. the ship in my idea is one that was not highly advertised coz it was carrying sumthing valuable to the states on trade and went on a certain route to avoid pirates. THis leads them to the bermuda triangle where they find the rotten ship at the bottom, somehow in the centre of it. since the triangle is known to be not very well known, they soon get lost while scoober diving back which prompts them to seek refuge in a under water cave. they follow the cave and find that there is a rather large field of grass surrounded by old walls and temples.
{the theory of journey to the centre of the earth) and city of gold. they soon find themselves faced with yet another mystery that ranges bac thousands ofyears and with just 48 hours until the underworld city collapses they must solve the clue and somehow get out!
i kno its far fetched but hey who cares lol
July 30th, 2009 at 6:40 am
that is just my idea
August 3rd, 2009 at 10:10 pm
Gotta be the Beale cipher treasure…
August 7th, 2009 at 10:46 am
the first two films were very well put together, i am very interested in the freemason’s and there secrets during the Civil War and post-civil war era. Both movies have been connected to the freemason’s in some way and i think this will continue, the question is what with next, the presidents book deminished certain sequels like area 51. Possible sequel ideas could be the lost city of atlantis, Hitlers Gold but i really dont know, waitin is the best option…
August 13th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
I agree with one of the submits, (can’t for the life of me find it again) : the treasure hunt sould remain national, hence the name, national treasure, but intertwine with some other country, such as the much debated idea on Egypt, like Mr. Cage suggested. It would be fitting, since the dollar bill we all know has a pyrymid like structure. Could it be another clue, Mr. Gates? Some sort of hidden message, a mark on a long forgotton mystery, on the very dollar bill many of us have within reach this very moment? After all, in the first movie cleverly used a clue from the hundred dollar bill. Way to go on that daylight savings thing, Riley! (speaking of the one dollar bill, did you know that on the top right corner of the side with Washington there is a ‘bump’ in the flourishes, look up close, perhaps with a magnifying glass, because it is a very tiny owl drawn in! True story!) Anyway, I just combined other’s ideas, and I’m just a teen, but I think that is a movie I would pay to see! And while you’re paying, look for the owl!
August 15th, 2009 at 9:19 pm
it will not be about area 51 or aliens. it was already on another page in the book so scrathch that.. neither fountain of youth.. its going to be about something awesome.
August 18th, 2009 at 8:53 pm
I Believe that that Atlantis is a big Possibility. though i also believe that there might be some type of advanced technology in this one to be found like a Time Machine from the Future or H.G. Wells Time Machine. or maybe a buried spaceship that was just a myth.
September 2nd, 2009 at 2:12 am
I believe that the third will have to be about the masons. The first two, which in my opinion were some of the best to come out of Disney, were about the masons and their treasures. So, lets think about this and ask all of a sudden, why would they lead away from what has made them so popular and so much money at the box office? I don’t believe they will if they want the fans to keep seeing their movies. The facts and the intrigue about the masons are what keeps us so inthralled in these movies that we want to watch them again and again. Well, that and the fact that deep down we all want to secretly find a treasure. Who wouldn’t? So, I believe they will stick to the masons and finding treasures they left behind. I have faith that this will be what the third movie is about because when I watch the first and second over and over again I always feel like I am seeing it for the first time again, no matter how many times I have seen it. If they stick to their original theme then I have no doubt this will be a long running series. People love learning history in an interesting way and lets face it they have made us want to learn it. Lets just hope they come up with their writers and have a good story for us to see.
September 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pm
Life-altering is Mr Gates descriptio of page 47. This could be medical discoveries that causes a life style change, and also lots of new wealth. NT 1 & 2 were about USA history lets keep the USA as the central theme in NT3. NT1 was the Revolutionary War Era, NT2 was Civil War Era. So NT3 should be starting with an internal based war in the USA-how about a war with nature that releases cures and treasure. So after the gulf states were hit by Katrina- the biou’s gave up their hidden pirate treasure and lots of treaties and documents…medical cures for our most cruel diseases, new treaties found that prove USA owns most of central and south America. And the Gates family tree has
many of the pirates, doctors, voodoo shaman, politicians and
generally shady characters hiding there.
September 7th, 2009 at 2:25 am
I love natioanl reasure. Oh and… The president asked ben to see what waas on page 47 becasue it was in hyraglifics or what e and he couldnt raed it, but ben could.
:):)
So i think, the president doesn’t know what it is because he cant rraed it.
That is why he asked ben to have a look. Ohh and national tresure is not fictional! and i thinkein should save mitch, and they become partenes. and i think all of the same actors should still be in it. INCLUDING DIANE KRUGER SHE IS THE BEST!!!!!!! ftw this is my fav movie! and i think the first one is better
September 7th, 2009 at 2:26 am
FTW i love national tresure! oh and please make a third one lol. I still think mitch should come back. and the water flows out somewhere!
ohh and if u have any questions on my comment just ahh ask me lol in ur comment:)
September 9th, 2009 at 2:17 am
hii i just wanted to say that it’s the 9t of th 9th of 2009 and my cousins turning 9
so yeah!
September 9th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
I do believe what I wrote a few days ago about the NT3 being about another templer treasure. If they stray from the formula then the movie will inadvertently bomb. If they stick to the formula then the movie will be another success on nicholas cages long list of achievements. please let us know soon as to what it will be about
September 17th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
National treasure should not be about USA. It should be more about the middle east or something.
September 26th, 2009 at 12:01 am
I beleive that it will be about the ark of the covenant. due to the statement about life altering.
September 28th, 2009 at 2:53 am
I have been given the answer to the question of page 47.
I can only give hints:
1. WATER!
2. A BOAT IS A KINGDOM!
3. A PLACE TO LIVE!
4. MEDICINE THAT HEALS!
5. PEACE!
October 5th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
i think nt3 could deal with the nazi-gold, because there are still 500t missing. what do you think?
October 6th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
why else call it NATIONAL treasure if it is not about the NATION united states of american!? does anyone get an education anymore in this world.
the plot will include the us capitol building, probably the stacks in the library of congress and monticello bc they have already done mount vernon and jefferson and madison used to have a secret code. they in the first movie hinted about the white house 2nd they r in the white house, 2nd they r outside the capitol building 3 they r in it. each one will progressively have more of the library of congress as it should since their are three of them and books are the key to knowledge. there were 1000 star wars movies so why not the same for national treasure. for you who say have it outside of the united states of america, how would star wars be if it was about war but conventional like the civil war ww1 and ww2…… exactly
October 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm
What about the premise of connecting the Anasazi indians to the freemasons and possibly connecting the pyramids to the great celestial beacons and each of these point to the lost location of Atlantis which of course leads Ben to discover that the Gates family are direct descendants of both cultures? Just my two cents worth!
October 24th, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Has anyone thought about time travel? I know this may sounds like Sci Fi (Back to the Future). When asked by the president about page 47 Ben replied “Life Altering Sir”. Now would time travel alter life? I think it so.
October 24th, 2009 at 5:20 pm
Sorry DougieJ58,
I did not see your post before I wrote. I agree with you.
Thanks
October 26th, 2009 at 7:17 am
I think page 47 is all about Human evolution. Come to think of it, on the newspaper that the president gave to Ben writes “Evolution of Human Behavior” and this might lead to something. Family ancestors of Charles Darwin, known for the “Evolution Theory”, are FreeMasons, but not him. I think that’s the mystery that Ben and his team will unveil on NT3.
“Before coming to Derby in 1788, Dr. [Erasmus] Darwin had been made a Mason in the famous Time Immemorial Lodge of Cannongate Kilwinning, No. 2, of Scotland. Sir Francis Darwin, one of the Doctor’s sons, was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge, No. 253, at Derby, in 1807 or 1808. His son Reginald was made a Mason in Tyrian Lodge in 1804. The name of Charles Darwin does not appear on the rolls of the Lodge but it is very possible that he, like Francis, was a Mason.”
Another interesting clues from the movie:
- XY 234786 (code for the President’s Secret Book) – “XY” is a gnome code for human. “XY” for man and it something to do with Evolution of Man.
- International location. Most of the proofs that man evolves from primates are located all over the world. This is somewhat the clues Ben and his team to gather.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:00 pm
Another possibility could involve the Holy Grail (sans Mary Magdalene), the Templars coming to America, and the Masons, and how all three of these influenced the founding fathers and the philosophy behind the Declaration of Independence. This was suggested by the documentary on the History Channel entitled “The Holy Grail In America.”
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:53 am
so in national treasure 2, that sandusky guy wants to know why wilkinson came forward with the page then but had it for a long time. NT 3 may have something to do with the other missing pages of the booth diary pages, but who knows
It will definetly be linked to the book of secrets beacause of the whole page 47 thing goin on, which is supposedly “life altering”
here are my list of possible scenarios
Roanoke Colony
Area 51 (probobly not tho)
Other missing pages of the diary
Atlantis (i dont think so tho)
Fountain of youth
It could be one of these or some other cool stuff
I think the president dude will also be in it to assist with watev is on page 47, and im sure it has to do with page 47
It will probably be called National Treasure 3: Page 47
November 22nd, 2009 at 10:57 am
Oh i forgot these posibilities
The Lost Ark
El Dorado (but thats like the cibola)
Maybe something about the moon landing
November 22nd, 2009 at 11:14 am
i just have a question
if in national treasure it said some ship wrecked on the coast florida and some slave got taken to it by indians (which is historically false) how did they get all the was up to south dakota
the legend for the real cibola which is actually the seven cities of gold, was different. here it is
In the 16th century, the Spanish in New Spain (now Mexico) began to hear rumors of “Seven Cities of Gold” called “Cibola” located across the desert, hundreds of miles to the north. These rumors were largely caused by reports given by the four shipwrecked survivors of the failed Narváez expedition, which included Álvar Núñez Cabeza de Vaca and an African slave named Esteban Dorantes, or Estevanico. Eventually returning to New Spain, the adventurers said they had heard stories from natives about cities with great and limitless riches. However, when conquistador Francisco Vázquez de Coronado finally arrived at Cibola in 1540, he discovered that the stories were lies and that there were in fact no treasures as the friar had described—only adobe pueblos.
Esteban probobly thought the adobe was gold beacause it kinda glows like gold in the sun, but who knows
I dont think NT 2 got it right
November 24th, 2009 at 4:36 am
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November 26th, 2009 at 1:07 am
sorry guys there not making a nt3. nicolas cage and diae kruger have both said they will not do it in a interview. i was so shocked. i guess we have to stick with the other ones
November 27th, 2009 at 11:47 am
I loved both National Treasures! I think that National Treasure 3 shouldn’t be about the fountain of youth cause that is what Pirtates of the Caribbean is gonna be about and it comes out the same year as National Treasure 3.
December 5th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
i love national treasure page 47 is to atlantis
December 5th, 2009 at 8:10 pm
i am so freaking horny 4 you
December 6th, 2009 at 10:53 am
Has anyone read The Lost Symbol? Maybe some of the information in that book would lead to clues of what is on page 47.
December 8th, 2009 at 11:15 am
With the money the second one made, there’s little doubt that Disney is planning a National Treasure
3. The question is where else can they take it? How many times can Ben Gate’s family be coincidentally involved in the pivotal events of history before the whole thing gets a bit ridiculous?
That problem may be solved in the third movie by ditching the “national” part of National Treasure and taking the gang outside the country to hunt for other lost treasures. That’s already been hinted at by Nic Cage, who several months ago said he wanted the next movie to be more international. Now the guys over at Jim Hill claim to have the scoop on what exactly Gates will be hunting next. Their guess? Atlantis.
They claim there’s already a brief plot synopsis for the sequel floating around at Disney. In it the Gates family goes to Easter Island to hunt for Atlantis and the perfect, clean, power source which was supposed to have powered the legendary sunken city. Their goal is to use it to end global warming, which would mean Disney could preach to us about reducing our carbon emissions while at the same time throwing Nic Cage off a cliff.
To me, the whole fun of National Treasure has always been the way it explores American history and makes it come alive. If that’s what they’re doing, then they’re totally abandoning that. Not only are they ditching the notion of looking for lost American treasures, they’re tossing history overboard as well in favor of hunting down fairytales, myths, and fantasy.
December 8th, 2009 at 10:24 pm
horny guy/girl kind of weird, ah anyway what ever the new movie is about you have to think of it in the prespective of the president, something that intrest him, SO far, what we know of him is that he likes washington, and Lincoln… anyone think they can build upon this ?
Another thing you cant speculate on what is on pg 47 based upon simple hints in the secound movie, because the simple fact is they didn’t write it yet at that time
December 8th, 2009 at 10:37 pm
I sure I think Ive figured out what is on pg 47 based on clues from a source that claims to know but isn’t allowed to tell
shangri-la!!!!
December 12th, 2009 at 11:47 pm
i think that they should bring Ieon Howl back into the third on and they can discover atlantis or the fountain of youth or maby the ark of the covenant
December 24th, 2009 at 10:39 pm
i believe ive discoved the fountain of youth, the clue is benjamin franklin on the 100 dollar bill pressing his lips
doing this right produces endorphins
basically press both lips when relaxing and not moving
when moving or focusing on something do not press lips together
and do not bite lower lip as it will protrude and you will look like bubba gump in forest gump
doing this right will make you feel good, doing it wrong will produce mental illness
December 25th, 2009 at 11:24 am
The first two movies were amazing and the frirst one was very funny. I cant wait until the next movie is out.
December 27th, 2009 at 2:19 am
Something everyone has overlooked. The Whitehouse is said to be haunted by ghosts. Perhaps the “Life” altering scenario is going to start with a ghost-story told by the ghost?
December 31st, 2009 at 2:37 pm
I think that because the president practicley asked for Ben’s help, national treasure 3 should be about like a curse that is going about D.C, or even the white house.
January 2nd, 2010 at 2:23 am
I come from the Thomas Family, My uncle is Ben, so I know whats in page 47 and why the president was interested. It is abour the end of the world of course, not another golden city, not treasure, that was the hunting of first and sequel. Nothing to do with the president right.
So It might have to do with life in other planets and might connect with the Mayas in Mexico. If the writers are in strike, let them have permanent vacation. No body is indispensable, nobody. Get the fans what the want. Get the movie out. Page 47 coming this 2012…. to a theater near your end of the world calendar….
(this is for recreational purpuses only, not to be taken seriously)
January 2nd, 2010 at 11:29 pm
Ben (Cage) wants to take it international-I have the perfect solution. Movie should start out with Ben & Abigail getting married. Since she is from Germany, their honeymoon would be spent there. Then, of course, they would run across something, like art treasure that was hidden during World War I (not WWII). That would give it international flavor, and a whole new script. Plus, since this is a Disney movie, they should be married and not just living together. Then of course, they would recruit the rest of the team, dad & mom, Riley & the new girl he met at the end of NT2. It could also bring in Abigail’s family. And the villian’s of course, would be some sort of international art thieves….maybe even Ian & company!!!
January 3rd, 2010 at 3:35 am
Nat Treasure 3 should be about OIL, the Civil War, A future look ahead in the 1860’s a discovery that has been hidden by the govt and it was found down in Georgia during Sherman’s march and wisked away to DC for safe keeping, then lost…. This combines with a “LIFE CHANGING EVENT” like running out of OIL,,,,,Now thats a MOVIE!!! Nick cage and the hot blnod—Kruger should do it again!!!
January 4th, 2010 at 9:53 pm
Naftali~
You have your story line wrong for NT2. The story goes that Estaban saved the king of the local tribe. They were referred to as natives, not specifically American Indians. In return for this act, he was shown the city of Cibola.
Remember that even though the movies have some historical bases, they are movies. There is not a hidden treasure room under Wall Street either. The idea is for Disney to make money. The nice thing is that there is historical fact conveyed in the movies also.
I like the idea of going international. Linda’s idea of Ben and Abigail getting married and running into something on their honey moon is great. That could even be tied in to page 47. When you think about it, both the first and second movies have international ties. The masonic treasure certainly wasn’t an “american” treasure and the second treasure took them to Paris and London.
I look forward to it, whatever it is!
January 8th, 2010 at 8:32 pm
Hello All,
What about time travel? Ben said to the president ” Life Altering Sir; now would time travel alter life? I say yes.
January 11th, 2010 at 12:06 pm
I want to know where jess in post 621 got his information? Just curious. I am anxiously awaiting/hoping for the third installment. Franklin I don’t have any input on the topic of the 3rd I just want the movie out!
January 15th, 2010 at 9:00 am
i think you should keep it in america. do you know how many kids are looking into our own history since th nt movies came out. the indiana jones movies were great but the last was just to unbelievable. lets stick to the states.
thanks
January 16th, 2010 at 6:23 pm
Terrel23, i saw the 51 too. The words are too small to make out so i cant tell you whats on pg 47. Something tells me abrahams lincolns viceprez wrote this to tell who killed prez libcoln. Also i dont think itll be a bout 9/11 because it involves the countries iran and iraq etc. And sense our country is fighting them right now i think they would be scaredto make a movie on that. Area 51? I dont think so. Because race to witch mountain. I honestly think this mivie will startt from the 1800s to the 1900s. Like start off with george washington up to the great chicago firee or mabe about martin luther king jr. I do wish i could read what was on page 47. If any one knows please comment peace!
January 16th, 2010 at 8:07 pm
Don’t know if this was mentioned but I think without a doubt it will be in America and it will have to do with ROSWELL 1947. Watch number two again and you will see a lot of suggestive things about the Roswell alien stuff. The President will want Gates to look into it and remember he told the pres that pg 47 was “life changing” and his also spied something about it in the pres. book.
January 16th, 2010 at 9:24 pm
I think the movie should open with Abigale and Ben getting married and then in the next scenen Ben or the president should be seen opening then reading the news paper and the headline should read “Golden City found by Wilkonson” or should say something about the Wilkonson man who drowned so that the audience knows that he (Ben) made sure not to forget to mention the founder of the Golden Temple or the Golden City. That should not take up a full scene, but then it should show Ben and the president meeting and then discussing page 47. I also like the idea that page number 47 should be about our first president, George Washington, since “George Bush” ( the president in the 2nd National Treasure movie) said that he was interested in our first president. Therefore I think it would make since to have page number 47 have something to do with George Washington. Riley should bring along the girl that he met in the @nd movie near the end of the movie.
January 22nd