National Treasure 3: Page 47 - Production talks have begun for installment 3 of the movie franchise National Treasure, based on the President asking Ben Gates “What’s on page 47?” as he looks at the Book of Secrets.
The cryptic reference in National Treasure 2 to page 47 in the President’s “Book of Secrets” came about from a bit of script improvisation from the movie’s star, Nicholas Cage.
“The way we left the movie, the President asked Ben, ‘What’s on page 47?’” Cage said. “I wanted to figure out what I could say that would really make people interested in what’s on page 47 without saying it, so I thought of the words ‘life altering.’ Whatever it is, it’s going to have to be life-altering.”
Nicholas Cage, Jerry Bruckheimer and Jon Turteltaub press interview:
Director Jon Turteltaub was asked in the press interview “Have you written yourself in the corner with this page 47?”Â
Turteltaub’s response is that the page 47 idea isn’t set in stone as the basis for National Treasure 3.
“We can always tell people that’s the fourth movie,” he said. “That doesn’t work. I’ve actually seen movies that seem like they’re setting up for the sequel and that wasn’t the sequel.”
Producer Jerry Bruckheimer said that the writers strike has slowed script development on National Treasure 3.
“The writers might know, but I don’t know,” he said in answer to a question about the mysterious page 47. “And they’re not going to tell me now because they’re on strike.”
In an interview, star Nicholas Cage expanded on his view that National Treasure 3 should be more like “International Treasure” than another US-based thriller.
“I believe that it should become more and more International Treasure,” he said. “I was very happy to see that we went to London, England and Paris, France, but I’d like to see the movie go wider still. I’d like to go into Africa, Egypt, Asia, and keep going. My hope is that Ben is recruited and he gets a dossier from these other countries about their history, and has to download it and learn it, and then try to go on these hunts on their behalf. That would be a lot of fun for me.”
And that’s the latest news on National Treasure 3: Page 47.
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December 22nd, 2007 at 8:34 pm
i really enjoyed the first and second i think there should be one more and then end it to go on futher would be redundant and people would eventually stop going to see them. And by the way did the character mitch really die or should we expect him in the new one. i hope you do start filming the third one i know you have many people hooked as well fascinated
December 23rd, 2007 at 11:32 pm
Loved it
http://www.myspace.com/whatsonpage47
December 24th, 2007 at 12:07 am
I’d say without a doubt that the character mitch is dead since he was shown drowning in the chamber.
We may be on strike and will say that any indication to a third movie we’ll leave to speculation.
December 24th, 2007 at 12:13 pm
i LOVED the first 2 movies ever since i saw the second movie i cant stop watching the 1st. and i think i found out what was on page 47, if U listened carefully on the conversation with mitch and ben (the part where ben was waiting for mitch to come with his mom) ben finishes his mom’s sentence and says “-had the letter written by queen victoria passed down from generations.” mitch retorts “How do you know?” ben says “i read it in a book.”
They have to have 3rd movie. if they dont i’ll kill them!
P.S. i think that they should have left ben behind when only one person could hold the door up. and maybe if he were left behind then you know he would have escaped somehow or resqued or maybe they show a scene where you think he’s dead when he’s not and then show Ian breaking out of jail like pirates!
December 24th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
i think the movie was really well done and i hope that when they do decide to do a part 3 that they do write in about page 47.i know i left the movies asking what the hell is on page 47. Could it be the lost city of atlantis, could it be the holy grail, or el dorado. im pretty sure what ever they come with, you can count on me buying a ticket to see it.
December 24th, 2007 at 3:52 pm
National Treasure 2 rocked! Thought it was much better than the first one in terms of action sequences.
Don’t think we’ll really find out what’s on page 47 until they write the new script…
December 25th, 2007 at 2:55 am
I think the page. 47 is gonna be about World World II.
at the end of the movei when Cage said “Life-altering”. It gives me clues and when asked in the interview she said He wants to go international maybe hes referrin to Asia or soemthing.
December 25th, 2007 at 6:10 pm
I Enjoyed this movie so much. The two sure have entertained our family. When the movie was over, my husband asked,
did I miss something about page 47, what was on that? I suddenly realized after all the action and adventure that question was never answered. I look forward to number
3. May the writers in the writer’s strike
come to a resolution soon!
December 26th, 2007 at 12:43 am
In response to J.S. Heart…“How do you know?” ben says “i read it in a book.”
This was in response to Riley’s book “The Templar Treasure” in which the clues needed for this hunt’s success hinged.
Anyone thought of the 3rd movie being the hunt for the fountain of youth? After all Ben did say it was “life altering” and Ponce De Leon was in search of the fountain of youth in 1513.
December 26th, 2007 at 1:00 am
i think page 47 has to deal with the fountain of youth
December 27th, 2007 at 2:03 am
I think we need to reexamine the idea of Gates finding the remains (or still thriving) colony of Roanoke island. Maybe the colony of people are still alive, living like the Amish are in an area cut off to the world. Maybe thats bringing fantasy too much into the picture. However, I still think that it would fit chronologically. From the look of the size of the book, we can estimate that it is 200-300 pages, depending on how much stuff (photos, maps, etc) were placed into the book. Page 47 was flipped BACK to when Gates found it to take the picture. This means it it before The Lincoln Assignation and therefore Roanoke is still a possibility. However, America didn’t have a president at the time of Roanoke, BUT that doesn’t mean that its secret didn’t lie with someone….like a stone mason???……
I also agree that the idea that NT3 has to do with another great war. And I do want to reinforce the idea that this is an AMERICAN treasure. Therefore I feel Atlantis, Locke Ness Monster, are out. I agree that the Hoover Dam is out b/c of Transformers and that The Fountain of Youth is too mystical and was used in too many movies. I don’t see the director taking that angle. I do find it interesting that the Fountain of Youth was thought of as the 3rd treasure of the United States someone stated, but I can’t find much information on where that it mentioned on the net. Anyone else want to entertain some ideas. All in all, I think the best bet is to watch out for the disappearance of the Roanoke Island colony in NT3.
December 29th, 2007 at 2:04 am
this is rly amazing! a third one, WOW, thats awesome! i just saw the 2nd one for the 2nd time today and just as great as the 1st! rite now as i type i am watching the 1st one as i type! i also watched it yesterday! i rly cant wait wait for the next one to cum out! URG! im sooooooo angry at the writers strike! all my favorite shows arent playing and the 3rd treasure is on hold! its so dumb! get over watever they are whyning about and write the dang movie! anyway im excited!
December 29th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
The second one rocked, but it bothered me that they didn’t say what was on page 47. I have no clue what’s on it, and it really bothers me not knowing. I think it would be cool for it to be Roanoke, but I doubt that that’s it. I really want to know. I hate the writers’ strike!
December 29th, 2007 at 8:30 pm
If you do a google seach on Page 47, the first entry is about a manuscript, where page 47 is blank. Maybe there is not NT3
December 29th, 2007 at 9:34 pm
Maybe Area 51? I don’t think so but they mentioned it. Overall Great Movies!!!!!! They are my favorites of all time!!!!!! Does anyone know what the writers strike is about?
December 29th, 2007 at 11:39 pm
I just got done watching national treasure 2 and I just wanted to say that it was just as good as the first if not better. I think that the strike thing of national treasure 3 is really stupid. please just writing produce the next movie because these movies are the best.
December 30th, 2007 at 12:39 am
In response to J. S. Heart and Jared. I believe that when Ben references “the book” he means the President’s Book. It was there that he read about Queen Victoria and General Pike when he found the picture of the carvings.
As for the next movie, I hope that whatever the story line may be it remains based upon US history. As we get older we tend to forget about the events and places that made this country so great! These movies get us interested in the people and places of the past…I wish they were around when I was learning US History!
December 30th, 2007 at 1:13 am
How mundane..the story begins in 1865 concerning a ciphered message whichis found to be dated 1876!! How is this possible, I want my money back from this very poor attempt at what could have been a much better movie.
December 30th, 2007 at 2:37 am
Did anyone else catch when Ben said to Mitch that Mitch “needed” to find the treasure. Like Ben knew something about Mitch that no one else knew?
That was right after he made the comment about reading about the letter in Riley’s book.
“You need the treasure. I know you do.”
And then all of a sudden, Mitch changes his mind about not taking the guns or the guards?
Might THAT have anything to do with page 47?
Or do you think the entire Mitch thing is over and done with since he died?
~ALison
December 30th, 2007 at 3:52 am
“dear diary,
i have a crush on benjamin gates.”
- page 47
December 30th, 2007 at 4:09 am
My husband has some theory about the 47 ammendment having to do with Taxes, supposidly tax-free donations/gifts to the gov’t. Thats why Riley got the note at the end that said “Tax Free”. but I’m with most of you, it has to be a real “AMerican Treasure” The fountain of Youth would fit that but like some else said that might be getting a little too mythical hoaky for this. Maybe it is some treasure from the west but the west is too new and would not have all the detailed history that these movies go off from to be an American Treasure. Maybe it will be a treasure from Columbus or even Vikings time. Im not a history major but that would fit more in the treasure hunt scheme of things since the treasure is always an ancient treasure that some American organization has been hiding for centuries.
December 30th, 2007 at 4:10 am
I think page 47 has nothing to do with wonders like Area 51 because if it was something like that the president already would know about it. It intrigued me because if it has stirred the curiosity of the president of the united states it has to be something that not even the government or its resources know. Just think as the president you have access to all the files the government has produced and if he still cant figure it out, it must be “life altering” as either Gates or the president said. Also, the president said he went to school to become an architect so i figure out of all the mysteries in the presidents book he would mention, he would have chosen something that would have been appealing to him. or maybe im just being to analytical. great movies though
December 30th, 2007 at 1:47 pm
MITCH’S BODY WASNEVER FOUND. MAYBE THERE WAS ANOTHER WAY OUT ONCE THE CHAMBER FILLED WITH WATER AND HE GOT OUT. ALSO MAYBE THEY WILL BRING SEAN BEAN’S CHARACTER BACK FROM THE FIRST MOVIE, HE SHOULD BE OUT OF PRISON BY NOW.
December 30th, 2007 at 1:52 pm
WHICH IS WORSE, STEALING THE DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE OR KIDNAPPING THE PRESIDENT?
December 30th, 2007 at 9:26 pm
i think page 47 has somethhing to do with area 51. i thought i saw a 51 on the page when he took the pic with his cell phone.
December 30th, 2007 at 9:55 pm
I dont think the number 47 is a clue in itself. Its just the page number. If you look at the size of the book when he opens it, it looks to be 200-300 pages long. It would be logical to assume presidents put things in the book chronologically, not picking a page that matched what they were putting in. Thus page 47 is not a clue. However if you do the math and assume all presidents put about the same number of pages in on average, page 47 would be about 35-55 years after the origin of the book. Again assuming that Washington started the book, that would make page 47’s entry somewhere between 1825-1845. There were 10 presidents during that time: Adams, Jackson, VanBuren, Harrison, Tyler, Polk, Fillmore, Pierce and Buchanan. That eliminates any Area 51, Hoover dam ideas
December 30th, 2007 at 10:03 pm
Did anyone else see a similarity with Mitch. His full name was Mitch Wilkinson. The guy who assassinated Lincoln was John Wilkes Booth. Mitch was looking to give something to his family’s name as well. But he had a lot of clues and artifacts from his family that just any historian would have found it hard to come by. I think there is much more behind Ben’s lines of ,”You need the treasure. I know you do.”
Also as far as the Queen reference and wondering if that had anything to do with page 47. When Ben refers to the fact he read it in a book I don’t think that was a reference to page 47. That was just the same information Mitch had in his letter. It was read on the same page as the pitcure of the wooden scripture from the desk stating of how the desks came to be and where and why the clues were hidden in them
December 30th, 2007 at 11:12 pm
I really do not think that page 47 contains information about the fountain of youth because that is supposed to be the theme of the fourth pirates of the caribbean movie. I doubt Disney is hurting that bad with writers to use the same theme for current franchises. I am really interested to see where this goes. enjoyed the movie!!
December 30th, 2007 at 11:57 pm
I don’t mind having this be the next Indiana Jones, but I wish that the crappy sappy dialog would quit. Nick Cage should be single and should drop the girlfriend completely. It was a good movie, it makes me want to know history better, which is what this country needs. I hope it doesn’t go international, like Nick Cage wants, because that would allow for less authentic history. And maybe even more manipulation of historical facts, and I like to know that there is some truth to the story.
December 31st, 2007 at 8:30 am
When Nic Gage says “I’d Like to see this be more INTERNATIONAL Treasure…” thats all the clue you need. being the Star of the the Movies, and the “script minipulator” of NT2. I think He would have a lil inside info.
I personally think It has something to due with Egypt.
there are still a lot of unfound stuff in Egypt. or maybe a Mythical peace of treasure that the Nazi’s are rumored to have stolen In WWII.
anyway this is out of a encyclopedia.
“The British cabinet in 1800 was forced to make a strategic gamble in sending an expeditionary force to Egypt as a means of undermining French expansionism. Napoleonic victories on the continent of Europe had left Britain with little choice but to confront the French military abroad. The conflict in Egypt gave British naval forces the opportunity to strike at the French and prevent their anticipated advance on British-held India. The costliness of the war and the failure to achieve victory … “
December 31st, 2007 at 10:18 am
oh and also… the president says He studied architecture at “Yale” so page 47 has to be something of interest to him right?
Read about The 47th Problem Of Euclid which is also teachings to Masons. or a “Masonic teaching”
December 31st, 2007 at 11:40 am
page 47—Rambaldi
December 31st, 2007 at 6:30 pm
Now when the President suggested Gates read Page 47. I was under the impression that he knew what it referenced and felt that Gates should be privileged to know it as well. Assuming that it was either something crucial that he needed to know about for survival sake like a ,doomsday scenario or something relevant that only Gates could give special insight too. like something much more important than a city of gold. Like another spin on the founders of the U.S.
Regardless of what page 47 might refer too. Do we agree that the President(since it was his book to hide) wanted to include Gates in this special secret only nterested in what Gates take on the mystery was?
January 1st, 2008 at 1:45 am
Having just viewed NT2, I am looking fwd to NT3. Page 47 is in the presidents book of secrets. This may be nation or international. Since Area 51, City of Atlantis, Foution of Youth have all been discussed. Here are a few that have not been mentioned. Illuminati refers to an elite set of enlightened individuals a secret set of individuals who run the country. Or Noah’s ark found with dinosaurs onboard.
January 1st, 2008 at 2:01 am
In National Treasure: Book of Secrets, Nicolas Cage’s character Ben Gates is after the President of the United States’ book of secrets, an unofficial book which contains the answers for the biggest coverups in American history.
In addition to his mission to restore his family’s name, Gates is advised by the President of the United States to “read Page 47”.
And of course, the information which is contained on Page 47 is never revealed, setting up a possible third film.
Someone posed the question to director Jon Turteltaub at the film’s press day, and here is his answer:
“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.”
Now that’s funny!
January 1st, 2008 at 11:34 am
I don’t think it has to do with any of the things people just said. Didn’t anyone notice that National Treasure 1 and 2 was fictional?
Map on Declaration or Treasure under Trinity Church? not real.
Treasure in Mount Rushmore? not real.
You can’t find a solution to like the Roanoke mystery or watever. Today it is still a mystery so you can’t make a fake solution.
It could be plain anything. The possibilities are endless.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:36 am
Also to add to my other comment
Book of Secrets? most likely unreal.
But definatly the things in the book were real.
JFK and Area 51? Its one of the biggest conspiracy theories there are!
January 1st, 2008 at 4:20 pm
“Map on Declaration or Treasure under Trinity Church? not real.
Treasure in Mount Rushmore? not real.”
lol How do you know? have you looked on the back of the Declaration? or done sonar ground probes over Mt Rushmore?
there is a 99.999999999999999999999999% chance they are NOT real. but it is not PROVEN otherwise. Yet.
as for the Book of secrets…. Hmmm probably not just one Book… Say, the WHOLE CIA “EYE’s ONLY” Archives =D.
That is definitely real!
January 1st, 2008 at 7:08 pm
I think that leaving the page 47 answer out causes me to leave the next film (if there is to be one) out of my list of movies to go to.
hellooo writers or editors.. either wrap everything up in the same movie of leave it on the cutting room floor.
January 1st, 2008 at 8:38 pm
I love the National Treasure movies!I watched the 1st movie twice already since i’ve seen the 2nd. I’m just a teenager…but I’m trying to figure out the plot of the third movie…I believe that the President already saw what was on page 47 because all the President’s look at the president’s book. I think that he told Ben about it so that he could look at it and analyse the meaning of it. I have no idea what the plot of the 3rd movie could be though. If it does go international i think that treasure might be in Egypt?I don’t think that it would be the Fountain of Youth because that would be the plot for the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie…I don’t think Jerry would do the same for National Treasure
January 1st, 2008 at 8:44 pm
PS. I also think that Thomas Cage is the perfect person to play the role of Ben Gates along with Justin Bartha playing Riley…i also like the relationship between Ben and Abigail in the 2nd movie.
January 1st, 2008 at 11:00 pm
Being the star of the movies, you are all off track. Yes, the fountian of youth will be part of the fourth pirates movie, and it is in production already!! Even though the writers are on strike they are close to an agreement and one got in touch with me. They are leaning towards a theme that intertwinds with another United States Treasure and an International phenomenom something linvolving Stonehenge.
January 2nd, 2008 at 1:42 am
My famly and I thoroughly enjoyed NT2. We can’t wait for NT3.
We speculated tath page p 47 has to do with either the Fountain of Youth, atlantis or perhaps connected to the Bermuda Triangle.
January 2nd, 2008 at 3:51 am
You stupidly said: “I don’t think that it would be the Fountain of Youth because that would be the plot for the 4th Pirates of the Caribbean movie”
That scene was a maguffin. If there is a 4th which is not all that likely based on some of the statments made since last summer what it will be about is rather obvious if you’re not brain dead.
January 2nd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
I think the fact that the president asks ben to take a look @ pg 47 is significant it must be important to the president to have the mystery resolved. also why ask ben with all the resources the president has available he asks ben to help him? Out of all of the mysteries why this particular page out of 200ish in the book of secrets. It must be significant to the president and not just any random mystery such as the fountain of youth although i’m sure most people would want to live forever.
January 2nd, 2008 at 6:39 pm
abegail kindly think before you bore us with your verbal abuse about the writers strike!!!!!!
The reason that us writers are whyning as you put it is that we have had enough of being ripped off by the movie companies, we should not only just be paid a fair wage for our work but we should also get paid royalties for this as well, as all artists do in their business. we are also being supported by all manner of artists, actors and directors etc as they all know that we have been treated unfairly and deserve a break and kindly also remember before you go verbally bashing us that we are the guys and gals that write the stories so that you can go to the movies and watch enjoyable films such as National Treasure 2. Its also very plainly clear by the diction in your writing that not only have you not the faintest idea what your talking about but you lack the maturity to think before you write.
Im sure what ever it is thats on page 47 will have you all sitting on the edge of your seats and gasping with excitement when you see it, its good to see that so many people are interested in finding out, it means that us lowly writers are doing our jobs right.
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:27 pm
Right on Darrell. I completely agree with you. Being a musician for 30+ years, I concur with you about royalties and such. Some people should do a little research about things they don’t know anything about, before blurting out and flaming the writers. Speaking of flaming, I don’t know who this “dan hooker” is, but I think he’s all gopped up on goop! I think you would have had to been comatose in your seat not to enjoy the movie, but that’s just me. Confederate treasure? Who knows… What I thought was funny was the French policemen being so nice to the americans. I just returned from europe, and they were by far the rudest country I have ever had the sorriest displeasure to meet! Take a bath guys!
January 2nd, 2008 at 11:55 pm
I am surprised that no one has made a comment about Milo Rambaldi, page 47, it was his favorite number… and full of intriguing possibilities.. althoughm since J.J Abrams is not involved, probably a pretty far stretch…
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 am
Yes the Prez would’ve certainly known what was on page 47, and wouldn’t likely have asked Gates to check it out unless he couldn’t figure it out himself.. implying he was really asking Gates for help, so it must be something really cryptic that only a treasure-hunter like Gates might be able to cipher OR the subject matter is so sensitive / “out there” the Prez can ill afford to engage all of his infinite resources to research it.
Which leads us to, what major mystery in American history would be recorded that early in the Book Of Secrets to so interest the Prez or possibly be covered by an Architecture major @ Yale, and cause Gates to describe it as “life-altering”.. couldn’t be the Fountain of Youth, that’s not a treasure per se and I doubt they’d a) make two movies along the same plot line or b) have Nick Cage drinking himself back to his youth anyway.
So what could be so life-altering, possibly something religious? We’ve already gone Holy Grail-ing with Raiders, and they would NOT attempt to plagarize the scurrilous DaVinci code plotline. so what’s left other than the Shroud of Turin or something to that effect?
Maybe page 47 is merely something as basic as the search for the true origin of our country’s foundation, the world’s first free democracy founded upon centuries of tried-and-failed government strategies.. maybe the real history behind the free masons that built our country, possibly as a contrast to the whispered Illuminati / NWO agendas of the late 18th / early 19th centuries? Ultimately perhaps knighting the Gates family with “hero” status for their contributions over the past couple of hundred years? This would certainly explain Nick Cage’s “life-altering” comment (life-altering for him that is).. however he’d probably not get that just from some brief verbiage on a single page of handwritten text.
So where to then? Lots of folks are talking up Area 51 and some sort of interstellar adventure, but they’re not going to turn Part Three into a sci-fi epic.. “International Treasure” is my guess!
January 3rd, 2008 at 8:02 am
Since he said page 47 is “life-altering” maybe it has to do with the secret of evolution. Just somethin to think about
January 3rd, 2008 at 4:56 pm
I love the 1 and 2 national treasure and can’t wait tell the 3!
January 3rd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
i love when movies leave cliff hangers and questions about the movie like national treasure 2….. tells us that page 47 is a clue not only to the 3rd but also a 4th national treasure…
January 3rd, 2008 at 9:40 pm
I totally agree with the writers strike!I think they deserve a fair wage for their work because not just anyone could write such exciting movies like they do!I also think Nicolas is such a good actor for these movies!I really like him!=]I’m just really hoping that the third NT is going to be really exciting!
January 3rd, 2008 at 10:53 pm
I love both Movies. I really think that the third should consist of pwhat they said on page 47 in the secod movie, for gate to be able to work along side with the President.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:39 pm
mshay…
Thank you! I thought I was the only one who saw that. It did seem like Mitch and Ben were hinting that Mitch’s family needed to reclaim their honor somehow. That’s why Mitch was so insistent that he be remembered for finding the treasure.
I think that Mitch Wilkinson, was a descendant of John WILKES Booth. Which is why he said he “needed to find the treasure” for his family’s “honor.”
I hope this issue is revisted in NT3. They really didn’t explain it fully in NT2.
January 3rd, 2008 at 11:56 pm
Hey Dab Dabney why dont you shut your mouth and suck a fat dick!!!
January 4th, 2008 at 12:01 am
Hey Dab Dabney shut your gay mouth!!
January 4th, 2008 at 5:36 am
It’s pretty obvious where page 47 is headed:
1) The president was an architecture major - this was the single most intriguing thing in the book to him
2) They want to take NT3 international - Cage specifically said Egypt, Asia and Africa
3) What is the “oldest” mystery on earth?
It has got to be the Pyramids - they are nothing but mysteries, empty chambers, signs and clues that point to the heavens. This thing is going to point to aliens or somehow life-altering scenario for planet earth - all the early presidents would have known about the pyramids and obviously we have one on the $1 bill…. You heard it hear first.
January 4th, 2008 at 10:34 pm
Wow!! The 2nd one was amazing! A lot of movies can’t live up to their original! This one totally did! To respond to people’s comments, the page 47 would not be about queen victoria’s letter! Ben said, “I read it in a book” because he saw the letter glancing through the presidents book, not Rileys book. Why would he say that he was the only one to see and then burn it if it was in rileys book. This letter from the queen pertained to this movie…it would not be brought back. The letter gave them clues to finding the enterence to the city of gold. It is not page 47. This is something totally different but I don’t think it is internaitonal. Just because Cage wants it to be doesn’t mean he is giving you a clue. And the end of the 2nd i dont even think they knew what they were going to put on page 47. They are probabaly doing that now. But I dont think they will end up having it international because honestly Americans know more about our own history and if they opened up another countires history like Africa it would be knew and not as exciting. I mean we learn about these things in history and for someone to put a new twist on a old story that we thought was lost is amazing. IT would not be as cool if it was something we ere not familiar with because we haven’t had time to think about it. Other people’s comments about Roanke is good and possible. I would love to see it about an unanswered mystery in history. THE ONLY THING I was dissapointed at was something I thought for sure they were going to include! In the first movie at the end Riley is upset because he didnt get a huge portion of the treasure and Ben said that he promised the next time they found another treasure that would change history Riley could be in charge…I was waititng for them to mention it in the 2nd. Like him to be like , ” remeber that promise”? I would have laughed but they didnt. O well, still a great movie cant wait for the next!
January 4th, 2008 at 11:28 pm
area 51 took place during 1947, possibly showing the relevance of pg 47
January 5th, 2008 at 4:47 am
i just saw nt2 and i think there should be a nt3! i think it st should have to do with page 47 and noa’s ark. i realy,realy think that they should make a 3!
January 5th, 2008 at 9:24 am
I think that since both ben and the president said that both there favorite president was lincoln that it has something to do with that. 47 (4 scores and seven years ago) or how about 4 being the fourth day and 7 being the seventh month independence day july 4th! maybe about the gettysburg address. you heard it here first. and i also think that mitch has some relation to john wilks booth.
January 5th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Jesus, Do people not read the other comments before posting their own? or do they pretend that they didnt see it. uhh and stop writing “you heard it here first”. someone else wrote it above you FIRST.
jg: read comment 30-31. Euclids 47th problem, which is a Freemasons Teaching is a Triangle also.
again the president says He studied architecture at “Yale” so page 47 has to be something of interest to him right?
the 47th problem of Euclid is used while building any structure or ARCHITECTURE
read about the 47th Problem of Euclid.
you heard it on comment 30-31 first! LOL!
just say “i Agree” or something… instead of wasting your time and our time re-typing something someone already said.
January 5th, 2008 at 8:31 pm
not the real Nick Cage, the poser from post #42. First, the real Nick Cage has discussed page 47, on slashfilm.com. Second, the real Nick Cage would not be using such horrendous grammar, such as the capitalization of the words “treasure” and “international”. Grow up and get a life, loser.
January 6th, 2008 at 2:56 am
NT3 = Oak Island
January 6th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I watched NT2 last night and was curious as to what “page 47″ was or maybe if I had missed something. I’ve since noticed that there is MUCH speculation about the signifigance (if any) of the number 47.
I’ve read the comments on this page and some others and after doing some short research, came to some conclusions.
There are alot of people who have looked at “47″ as 1947, having to do with area 51… Is it not possible that “47″ is refering to 1847?
1847 was before the civil war, which would follow along with why Gates had to turn the pages backwards in the book of secrets.
Also, this must be something, as it has been said, that “47″ is particularly interesting to the President (who went to Yale)
Let’s look at what happened in 1847…
- The gold rush was taking place…
gold is obviously a treasure (however, gold was covered in NT2).
People have said that they would like to see the movie “go west” which fits with the gold rush.
-In 1847 Yale olpened what became known as Sheffield School (with major emphasis on chemistry and mineralogy)
-Scientists organized professional society… The American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS).
-The United States issued its first postal stamp.
-James K. Polk was President and his 25 volume diary (the first attempt of a president to keep a daily log of his presidency) currently sits in the Library of Congress.
-America was on the verge of the Mexican/American War.
-Thomas Edison was born.
Also…if the writers decide to do an “International Treasure”, 1747 could be a significant year…
There is a “lost treasure of Afghanistan”
-The treasure originates from Mughal India. Durrani was a general in the service of the Persian emperor who sacked Delhi in 1739. Having forced the treasury open and loaded its contents onto a vast caravan, the emperor was assassinated. Durrani took control of the caravan and led it to Afghanistan, where he was crowned king in 1747. Amongst the treasure was the Kohinoor diamond, a stone which now sits in the crown jewels at the Tower of London, but the rest remains hidden.
January 6th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
There are many many directions (with this information) in which the writers of NT3 could go… Each of them, if covered correctly, would be very interesting!
However, I could be wrong.
Some of the sites that I got this information from (for implied copyrights and avoiding plagerisms and the such)…
http://www.tvthrong.co.uk/search-for-the-lost-treasure-of-afghanistan/search-for-the-lost-treasure-of-afghanistan-tuesday-august-21
http://www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/jp11.html
also…
various google.com searches
any comments, feel free to post here or e-mail me personally at ntideas@hotmail.com (an account i set up for this)
January 6th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Does anyone know how the President could have gotten the “Book” into the Library of Congress? Was the secret compartment already there?
January 6th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
My husband and I think that page 47 revealed how to work the toilet in the Lincoln bedroom.
January 6th, 2008 at 11:57 pm
The deciphered code would be something like, “Jiggle the handle.”
January 7th, 2008 at 10:45 am
I think p47 might refer to the ancient hall of records. There is a story that says when Atlantis was doomed in 10000 b.c. they split their records to two places…one under the right paw of the sphinx and the other in Peru.
If NT3 does go “international” I can imagine it would be along these lines.
If it stays within the States…possibly could be the movement of these records to the US and placing them in the west. There is also another legend that a tunnel underground was found in the grand canyon back in the early 1800s with artifacts that should not have been there.
To me, personally, that would make a very “life altering” discovery because who knows what those records may hold…
January 7th, 2008 at 3:44 pm
I really enjoyed the 1st and 2nd! I will be SUPER ecstatic to see a 3rd installment. I really hope its about pg. 47, after I saw the 2nd one, my mind is so boggled as to what could be on that page. Love Nicholas Cage, Justin Bartha, and of course the ever so lovely Diane Kruger!
January 7th, 2008 at 5:44 pm
I am sorry if someone else has said this before me but i didn’t read all the way through to prove my theory. Before it said it had to be life altering. well why not go with a nuclear war head left somewhere and they have only a single clue to find it and within that path of clues they find out it will go off when the sun hits it on the rise of a full moon somehow linked to a certain year. Now it is up to them to figure out what clues and how to link them but i think that would be a pretty cool way to end it. but since it is a treasure story…. i guess the wouldn’t work… but i like the whole sun on the lunar moon sort of idea…..
January 7th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
how can i have missed it… yes like sam said Euclid’s 47th problem…. a triangle…. Burmuda triangle…. he said he wanted to travel… so didn’t the spanish lose millions of gallions down there???? well that could be the treasure. and the bermuda triangle could be the obstacle. as you probably well know that well. anyone who goes there never comes out alive…. like that one lady. the first lady to fly who flew there and never came out alive… couldn’t they connect them… well they are hollywood….
January 7th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
Rockstar, the $500 billion dallor treasure seems more in keeping with the previous senarios.. although, the bermuda trianle (and other like triangles) is appealing…
I would love to something about the the Oak Island mystery, and the treasure there too….
January 7th, 2008 at 11:32 pm
Parts 1 and 2 are great, and I believe that part 3 should be about page 47.
Making a part 3, and even a part 4 would be awesome!
January 8th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I heard that the 3ed national treasure was going to be about fort knox. I heard about it when I was waching the history channel and they where talking about fort knox.
January 8th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Maybe something based on another famous buried treasure mystery with the clues contained in the Beale Cipher.
Part one of the three Beale ciphers about where the treasure was buried in Virginia back in 1820 was decoded using numbered words in the Constitution as the key…
January 8th, 2008 at 11:13 pm
NT3 will deal with the secret surrender of the war of 1812. We didn’t win. Page 47 has the clue to finding the “deed” to all land described as “The United States of England”. It must be found by a colonist or decendent of a colonist otherwise the US reverts back to being a British colony.
So, does that qualify as both “life altering” and consistant with the Gate Family?
January 9th, 2008 at 2:05 am
I guess page 47 will tell who is the antichrist, who is soon to be revealed by the brotherhood (Freemasonry).
or it could be the 3rd world war that they are planning.
January 9th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
I think that “The Steven” has the best therory yet. I was thinking along the same lines but I thought that it might have something to do with another predient turning the company over to british power that the American people were unare of.
January 10th, 2008 at 12:20 pm
Page 47,….? Was this a blank page with only a time and place written on it? Written back, let’s say in the 1700’s was only the numbers 9.11 and New York on that page. But,..on the very bottom of page was an exact date of
09.11.2008!!
January 11th, 2008 at 1:00 am
They have to shoot National Treasure III in the Philippines where “YAMASHITA TREASURE” is hidden. It is a myth that most Filipinos are up to know believe. This was said to be buried since WWII, Japanese Occupation. Just a suggestion!:) Wont hurt!
January 11th, 2008 at 3:27 am
YAMASHITA TREASURE it has been found its in the marcoses… they hide in their swiss bank account… hey eyjey ur filo right….
January 11th, 2008 at 5:38 pm
First of all, the part where Ben talks to mitch, when his mom was captured on the stairs at mount rushmore. Ben finishes the sentence, because he read about it in the book, yes. but that was the part riley noticed, he said something like “the queen was with the confederates”
Second, page 47 must be something way further back then WW2, since the book was atleast 150pages. so WW2 secrets would be at about 130 I guess..
The writers must have thought about which page they would choose.. not just random..
those are my thought.. dont have any ideas about what it could be.. things will be different anyway:P they always are..
Loved the movie! keep it comin.. and I agree with cage.. international treasure!
January 11th, 2008 at 11:36 pm
yay i love national treasure… i hope there is a 3rd movie !!
January 12th, 2008 at 1:04 am
David Joshua:
I am a Mason. You are an Idiot.
Did you even see NT1 or NT2?
You _must_ be thinking of the “Left Behind” movies.
January 12th, 2008 at 11:44 am
wow!this is so great…and imagine there are many people that talk bout the PAGE47…i really dont have the idea…coz i dnt know much about american history..but going “INTERNATIONAL” will be great…why not include Philippines..hehehe just hoping…well but his movie is really spectacular…i’m very excited about NT3…hey just a comment maybe we shouldnt very serious of thinking wats on page 47…maybe we should think that this is a fiction and writers mind rules!!…unless there are real treasures…its really “LIFE aLTERING”=D
January 12th, 2008 at 12:29 pm
just saw the movie and i agree it rocks!!
Anyway, I think the 3rd sequel is about Charles Darwin’s “theory of Evolution” and some alien stuff. I figured what’s more life altering than knowing what’s the missing link of the evolution’s theory.
January 12th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
Just saw the movie, I want to know what’s on page 47, what total BS.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:48 am
In response to Ben’s post:
I think the storyline isn’t mundane at all D:
January 13th, 2008 at 1:55 am
I haven’t seen anyone mention (so far) about page 47 being about Atlantis. It was alluded to in the movie (the FBI agent said about Ben Gates, (paraphrase) “What? Did he find Atlantis?”
I really like the idea someone wrote about Stonehenge…I don’t know how it could be “life-altering” though.
January 13th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
I have to agree with ‘J.S. Heart’, I recall hearing mention of a letter written by Queen Victoria secretly endorsing the South during the American Civil War.
January 13th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Page 47 doesn’t have anything to do with the letter from Queen Victoria. At the end of the movie, AFTER the treasure was found, the President asked Ben “what about page 47?” and Ben replied “I think I can help with that”. If it was about the letter, then why would the president be asking about it still? The treasure had already been found. It has to be a tease about another movie. It could be about anything.
January 13th, 2008 at 8:33 pm
National Treasure 3 ….. I think finding the last pint of water from the Fountain of Youth would be a life altering find. After following a puzzel trail around the world the last flask of life givin water collected from the Fountain of Youth could end up being located within the confines of the USA borders. What would be greater than gold and is life altering gift …..eternal youth.
Ponce de Leon, at his own expense, equipped an expedition to the North America in 1513 seeking the Fountain of Youth. The Fountain of Youth National Archaeological Park in St. Augustine floorida is the site where Spanish conquistadors first came ashore in what is now the continental United States.
January 14th, 2008 at 9:29 pm
NT3 area 51 FTW
January 15th, 2008 at 11:39 am
From Jon T’s interview:
“I’ll tell you, what is on page 47 is I think the single greatest secret in America today… which is… the plot of Star Trek.”
So maybe the Area 51 / Roswell / 1947 UFO crash may not be too farfetched? Add to that the pyramids of Giza?
The pyramids of Giza has to be one of the great mysteries of all time. One theory is that the air shafts are actually pointing to significant stars like those at Orion’s belt. Even the layout of the 3 pyramids are supposed to correspond to the layout of Orion constellation.
They say that there are even hidden chambers under the sphinx which could very well be the “Hall of Records” predicted by Edgar Cayce which could have ancient documents about humanity’s origins… life-altering “truths” that can be considered an international treasure?
January 15th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Or then again…
Maybe page 47 was…
… where Rhonds Byrne copied “The Secret”?
… the one used by Shrek as toilet paper?
January 15th, 2008 at 3:05 pm
As far as Ben saying he saw it written in a book… He is not referring to Rileys book, he is referring to the letter sent to General Pike as he read it in the Secret Book. This was clearly laid out as they were looking for the board from the HMS Resolute. In the movie before leaving the library, he flips to page 47 and takes a quick photo. Thats the end of the reference to page 47.
There is no doubt that page 47 will be intrical to the next movie. After reading the interviews, and wanting to go international. One would have to only speculate about where and what treasure they will resolve to discover.
I certainly enjoy the story lines and how they try to redefine our nations history as to have some other meaning. It certainly makes for great entertainment.
January 15th, 2008 at 11:46 pm
Page 47 food for thought:
The first movie was indirectly about the Mason’s. How about another controversial group in the third movie. The Mormon’s settled Utah in 1847, Joseph Smith as well as many other Mormon leader’s were Mason’s. Brigham Young was rumored to have access to a huge treasure of gold - Brother Brigham’s Gold. Brigham Young also had a legendary bodyguard by the name of Porter Rockwell who was rumored to be ruthless. Anybody see a possibilities here.
jarmanm79@yahoo.com
January 19th, 2008 at 1:25 pm
When i went to go see the movie i seemed to be the only one that noticed that page 47 was still left unanswered but my friend didnt believe me! I am totally excited for the 3rd one to come out my life dream is to be an extra in the film if you know how that can become reality please email me!!
January 19th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
nick cage r u that stupid that u didnt kno egypt is in africa? man i thought he was cool.
January 20th, 2008 at 12:53 am
I´m from Argentina, therefore sorry my english. I´ve enjoy the movie. And I am really impressed as I read all these you wrote.
I think:
* NT 1 and 2 have obviosly reference to masonery.
* The president is a mason himself (he had study architecture, knows about mason signs, many presidents had been masons, and so on)
* The president not only replies, but ask as a personal matter to read page 47. (He seems to be in a need, he ask for help.)
* I agree with those who wrote, this aenigma belongs to the past (nothing to do with area 51 or alien thing) but has connection with the present, and the future (so the president ask help with)
* The movie’s plots are just ficcional. I you want, you can call it ficcional history, but they are not, science ficcion movies. (out again with area 51, clonation, aliens, and so on.)
* I agree with those who think that would be:
- Youth fountain. (The president is ill. So he needs “more time”. A matter of life or death. Or…
- Bermuda Triangle. (triangle: masonery sign) The president has someone loved that has been lost in that aerea.)
That’s all. Hope you have understanded my bad english.
January 20th, 2008 at 9:08 pm
I loved bothe mvies 1 & 2. They r 1 of my favs!! I thnk they should do the mvie of pg 47 about the statue of liberty. it is blieved that before it was built, pirates buried a treasure map and buried a pirate of it alive just to keep watch over it, even in death. it was said that two men went out searching for the map only to be scared of by the gravely image of a ghost. and to this day it is said that the statue of liberty is haunted. Who knows?
January 20th, 2008 at 10:42 pm
I totally loved National Treasures 1 and 2. i can not stop watching ether of them. the page 47 idea for the third National Treasure is a great idea. i think Area 51 and what could be in it should be whats on the page.
But, No matter what the third movie is about i will buy a ticket a month before it premieres, if i can.
January 21st, 2008 at 12:11 pm
Life Altering…Either God or Aliens..Holy Grail or Area 51..? Looking forward to it…Some one said earlier they should make #3 and leave it there..WHY..?? If Harry Potter is worth 7 and even Rocky was worth…Umm..A lot..lol..Then ALL the secrets of the world must be worth a hell of a lot of movies..As long as there are few main characters and on going influx and exit of villians and others..maybe a cameo here and there of past guests..As long at characters GROW and they don’t do a mummy returns and add heaven forbid KIDS…(I love kids I have 4 but not in a movie please)…I think there is a HUGE scope for a TON of movies…
Someone end this selfish strike so we can get on with our cimematic lives please…
January 21st, 2008 at 10:52 pm
wow ok just wanna say movies were good, ben’s comment to mitch was that he just knew about the queens letter cause he read it in the presidents book thats all that was, as for 47, cage just said that he wanted a hook something to keep people intrigued, that doesnt mean its gonna take place internationally. he just said he thinks they should for future movies go on quests on behalf of other people cause it would be fun for him so i dont see the page 47 connection even producer Jerry Bruckheimer said he doesnt know what it is cause of the strike only they know right now.
January 21st, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Yes, NT 1 & 2 are great movies. As far as page 47 goes, it is obiously the key to the next movie. It was possibly designed by the writers to have no specific reference to an event in American History. Maybe the writers were intentionally planting a seed so these types of suggestions or ideas would be their fodder for ideas for the script of NT3. In other words, the writers are checking these comments every day!
I personally think that once Ben Gates tells the President what is on Page 47, the President will be so grateful that Ben Gates will be appointed to a new Cabinet Position that has something to do with finding and cataloging National Treasures (now that would be Life Altering!). I think also that the President from NT2 will will have a place in NT3. At the same time, Abigail and Ben will have gotten back together, as will have Ben’s parents. Abigail will have one or more children and one of them will become as knowledgeable as the kid in NT3. NT3 will conclude the Series with the realization that the real National Treasure of this country is not gold or other treasures, but actually the children of this country. What an ending!
Hey Writers: How do you like that story line?
January 22nd, 2008 at 5:41 pm
In my opinion national treasure two is the most redundant movie of all time, apart from the terminator series. Let’s all go look for some massive treasure lair that alone contains more gold than is in all the world. The plot is basically the same with a few minor details sewn on. If you would like to see the first National Treasure again, watch it, but do not spend your time on this waste of a movie. The third movie, I can imagine would be even worse.
January 23rd, 2008 at 6:33 pm
OMG if they make a National Treasure 3…
IDK what i am going to do i loved the first two and i am going to mount rushmore this summer.
If they do make a third one i will see it like 1000 times
i hope to God that they make a third one
January 24th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
hey all you guys talking about area 51, maybe they should have the aliens bring Elvis back too
January 25th, 2008 at 2:23 am
Please don’t put me on a list.
I loved the movie, but I think Page 47 is lame. The president gave him the info to get into the book. Why wouldn’t the president be straight up with him? And why did the president threaten to have him arrested anyway? It fell apart. If whatever it is is so “life altering” why wouldn’t the president just share it with him? He only had a few seconds to look at the book, why distract him with Page 47? It was a plot flaw. Sorry Nick.
January 27th, 2008 at 5:32 am
Why can’t page 47 be only “page 47″. I doubt that the “47″ refers to any date, book, script or something. It is the content of page 47 that is so interesting IMO. However, I do agree that page 47 was written until max. 1850/60 due to its position in the president’s book. Thus, it has something to do with history, but also is linked to the present (cuz of the president’s personal interest)
Two things are bothering me:
1) It is “life-altering”
2) The president seems to have a special interest in solving this
When someone like Gates says that the content of page 47 is “life altering”, this could obviously have a twofold meaning: a) it is life-altering for him as a treasure hunter because it is about a mystical treasure that now becomes real or b) it is life-altering for mankind, hence, by resolving the possible riddle on page 47 something could be revealed which is of enormous importance for men.
If it’s a), IMO it is a treasure based on myths such as oak island, certain pirate stuff, inca-aztec-eldorado etc.
If it’s b), then it is more about a treasure in combination with conspiracy. It is the treasure that makes it interesting for a treasure hunter, but more importantly, the conspiracy behind it is “life-altering” for mankind because it is so unbelievable, beyond belief etc. Something like the masons and the holy grail in the Movie “The Da Vinci Code”. It would be the secret information that bonds us.
Concerning my 2. point, the president was in Yale, he studied architecture. Maybe he’s a mason. It is said that the masons and illuminati are converging where the latter is the more secret group with the most influence on world’s politics and economy. Maybe there is a connex between page 47 and the president’s interest. He read it, but does not understand it. Therefore he needs Gates to help him solving the riddle. The secret behind could then be life-altering either.
However, I think that too much is interpreted in the number “47″.
gato
January 28th, 2008 at 7:27 am
Page 47, is also an important page in the TV Serie Alias Starring Jennifer Gardner…
January 28th, 2008 at 10:35 am
Here’s my plot for NT3: Page 47 (pulling in all the clues given in “Book of Secrets”):
The saucer that crashed in Roswell (in, coincidentally, 1947) contained a treasure map. On a visit to Area 51, JFK found it and wanted to make it public; hence, he was assassinated. And the 18 missing minutes of the Watergate tapes contained Nixon’s revelation that the real purpose of the Moon landings was to get the treasure, which now resides in the secret nuclear bunker at Mount Weather.
January 31st, 2008 at 1:15 am
My thoughts for NT3: Page 47
I think it might be plausible to have the NT3 be about the Spanish-American War. I mean if you think about it, NT was about the Revolutionary War. NT2 was about the Civil War. So why not make NT3 about the Spanish-American War.
I mean if you really think about it. Both movies dealt with a treasure that might be real. (who’s to say it’s not?) They also dealt with history that took place with the U.S; but started out dealing with other countries; in some form of fashion. So why not continue the chronological order of Wars that this country has been through?
[As for the page 47 being before President Lincoln. If you listen to what was said while "Ben" was reading the book dealing with the "clue" he reads in President Truman's log, (that President Truman is the one who found the secret compartment and took the "clue". After taking the "clue" photos where taken of it; then the "clue" was destroyed.) Therefore, when "Ben" turned the pages back to get to page 47 you really can't tell where in history he was at in the book. Because there are 17 Presidents between Lincoln and Truman. So really anything that happened between their time in office could be what NT3 will be about.]
But, then again that is just my thoughts on the matter and what I think would be entertaining for the 3rd movie.
February 2nd, 2008 at 10:03 pm
National Treasure 3? I can’t hardly wait for it to set up! My ideas for the third installment is Ben Gates, Abigal, and Riley go to find the Lost City of Atlantis!!!!!!!!
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
I am a huge treasure hunting type of guy and I was very happy with National Treasure 2! I love the sequel already and I would love to hear ideas from the Director and give my ideas as a fan of the films. So, my idea for the third installment is: Finding the city of Atlantis or finding treasre in European cities underground and finding old ancient treasure from Italy! So my two idea titles are:
1-National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis
2-National Treasure 3: The Mythic City
And I love to hear about if there are possibilities of a fourth National Treasure. (National Treasure 4)!
So I would love to hear ideas about the third installment and I would love to see it when it comes out in theaters (2008 or 2009)
National Treasure Fan
Jonathan M
February 3rd, 2008 at 4:09 am
i dont think it has to do with area 51. as ben and riley are looking thru the book riley points out area 51 and ben goes past it since he doesnt have much time. ben’s dad hints towards atlantis at the beginning, so idk. a few other theories mentioned here would be pretty cool. and i agree, if harry potter is worth 7, n.t. is worth doubble that lol
February 3rd, 2008 at 8:17 am
The secret to page 47 could have something to do with the Scottish Rite Masonic degrees. Euclid’s 47th problem is mentioned throughout the degrees and the man who rewrote the degrees, Albert Pike, is mentioned throughout the movie.
February 3rd, 2008 at 9:54 pm
Gentlemen,
I’m a treasure hunter, thats why I love treasure hunting movies. I hope the next national treasure movies tackles about the infamous YAMASHITA TREASURE or Japanese WW2 War Booties bcoz it involves the US government also. Pls. read the book of Seagraves re: Gold Warriors, Asian Loot, Marcos Gold and etc.
Our team have documented more than 100+ suspected Japanese WW2 treasure sites (Yamashita treasures) all over the Philippines…
For more info: gergio2006@yahooo.com.ph
February 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pm
All this talk about NT makes me
with all the writers on strike, there won’t be a NT# for a while yet
February 7th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
i know exactly how we can find out whats on page 47 when the 2nd movie comes out on dvd pause it when ben takes the picture!
February 7th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Here’s one for you to ponder “page 47″
Why assume 47 is one number and why not 4 and 7 i.e. the book of secrets is not laid out in the numeric sense that we think of i.e. 1,2,3,4 why couldn’t the book itself be a puzzle after all it does contain presidential secrets.
Any way this is my thinking of where they could go with 4 and 7, they relate to two us presidents.
James Madison, the fourth us president also referred to as “Father of the Constitution” because he was indeed the principle author of that document. This gave him direct contact with the constitution and would allow for him to hide a map. Being also responsible for the first ten amendments this gave him chance to hide the map plus ensuring it became a secret. It is also well documented that James was a strong believer that the new republic needed checks and balances to limit the powers of special interests. So what if he was hiding some gold from the New Republic so that they didn’t become a dominant nation. He believed very strongly that the new nation should fight against aristocracy and corruption and was deeply committed to creating mechanisms that would ensure republicanism in the US. So he didn’t believe in higher classes so if he knew the where a bouts of the Washington gold (all I’ll say is the fathers last entry in the story of the cherry tree)
But where could the 7 come from well Andrew Jackson and ill update you on that shortly.
but what I will say is keep us guessing because as a writer I find National Treasure so inspiring Well done and here’s hoping for a trio of fantastic films.
February 9th, 2008 at 9:38 am
My husband just saw the movie last night and it was AWESOME!!! We cant wait until the 3rd one comes out. As for page 47, my husband also thinks it could maybe be the fountain of youth. That would make a good story. It would definately be life altering.
February 9th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Does any 1 no were u can buy a resolute desk with a secret compartment exactly like the 1 in the movie .
February 11th, 2008 at 1:28 am
How about…47 means nothing yet….except maybe a reference to 4 score and 7 (47) years ago….OR possibly about our ‘future’ 47th president? i love the fact that i can use my imagination on what it could be…it was a great movie though…being a Philadelphian; i like the 1st movie better. bring on the next….maybe the next movie could be Giza Pyramid related??hmmmmm…..
February 11th, 2008 at 4:38 am
hello…no i dont know where. good movie tho
xx
February 12th, 2008 at 5:11 am
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February 13th, 2008 at 10:09 am
Great Seal of the United States
Interesting story out today by Associated Press about the State Department trying to downplay Masonic symbols in the Great Seal of the United States.
The State Department - keepers of the Great Seal of the United States - want you to know what it is not.
It is not a sign that Freemasons run the country, it has nothing to do with the occult, and it does not contain clues to a fabulous hidden treasure.
Not that the Seal’s symbols — the all-seeing eye, the unfinished pyramid, the Latin phrases, the bald eagle clutching an olive branch and arrows and the number 13 — aren’t powerful.
They are, historians say. Yet their meanings have been misidentified, misunderstood and misrepresented almost since the Continental Congress first commissioned the Seal in 1776.
The theories about the Great Seal include:
_That the Seal proves the domination of the United States by a powerful, quasi-religious cult. The Ancient Scottish Rite of Freemasonry is a perennial favorite of conspiracy theorists as some Founding Fathers were Masons and the Seal uses several Masonic symbols.
_That the Seal draws on Satanism or polytheistic ritual to promote a universal new world order under which Earth would be ruled by a single omnipotent government.
_That repeated references to 13 — the number of steps in the unfinished pyramid, stars in the constellation over the eagle’s head, arrows in the eagle’s claw, stripes on the eagle’s shield, letters in the phrase “Annuit Coeptis” — demonstrate the power of 13 American families.
_That there are two seals: one in which the eagle’s head faces the arrows for times of war and another in which the eagle’s head faces the olive branch for times of peace.
All rubbish, according to historians, who say the Seal’s symbolism is far less ominous or revelatory than many believe.
The counter arguments:
_That known Masons like the first U.S. president, George Washington, and Benjamin Franklin had no role in designing the final seal, which uses elements of traditional heraldry, such as the unfinished pyramid to symbolize a work in progress, arrows for war and an olive branch for peace. Masons share some of those symbols, but they have never been exclusively the domain of the order.
_That the phrase “Novus Ordo Seculorum” below the Roman numerals for 1776 at the base of the pyramid translates as “A New Order of the Ages” that began with independence and does not imply the United States will be the lynchpin of a sinister “New World Order.”
_That the words “Annuit Coeptis” (”Providence favors”) and the eye of providence that hovers over the pyramid refer to unexpected interventions of fate that assisted the colonists in creating a new country.
_That the references to 13 refer to the number of colonies that formed the original United States.
February 15th, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I think National Treasure 3 should be about what is on page 47, and what is on page 47 should be about AMERICA because this is the PRESIDENT’s book, but I think the clues shoud lead to different countries. I also think you should add a new character, one that is particularly linked to Riley.
February 16th, 2008 at 3:22 am
i am almost posative its talking about roswell because i am a huge feauturama fan and thay did a roswell ephisode and thay gave the date that roswell supossedly happend happens to match with it and hey aleans would change it all as to atlantis that could be intresting but if it goes international theres plenty of stuff other then atlanis to go off of mabey find a way to use the belale ciphers if its too stay on us soil
February 16th, 2008 at 3:38 am
another note oak island is a great idea because of the challenges to get to the treasure is so well engiered i hope nobody finds it id like to give it a shot just figuren out whats down there would be worth it for me
February 18th, 2008 at 1:58 am
Hmm…
Life Altering?
The Grail?
Hmm….
To much Indiana Jones like…
But if you think of it…
Eternal life is the greatest treasure…
Uh… oh…
Hey isnt the next Indiana Jones coming out?
February 18th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
RE: I totally agree! I definitly think that National Treasure 3 should be on the lost suken city of Atlantis!!!
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
I love these films a lot and I would love to see a National Treasure 4-6!!
I think the first film is very interesting and exciting! I love treasure hunting type movies! And I love the way it was made.
Ben Gates goes to Easter Island and finds clues and goes to Europe and then gets into a submarine and finds Atlantis!
Awesome plot!!!
National Treasure 3 will be awesome to see coming out in 2009 or 2010.
Please make a forth National Treasure film followed by 2 more with the same cast starring in it and the same composer and producers and director!
Although I would like to see Ian Howe show up again (Sean Bean).
Maybe 2 villains in the third one.
National Treasure 3: The Lost City of Atlantis!
Sounds great to me!
- National Treasure Fan
- Jonathan
February 21st, 2008 at 8:09 pm
I think the most logical idea for the new movie is something both ben and the president share a passion for. The president studied historical architecture and cant exactly look himself so maybe he was interested in some building that he wants ben to help him with. Hence, sphinx, pyramids, Aztec temple or any of the 7 wonders of the ancient world could be plausable ideas.
February 22nd, 2008 at 2:54 am
I agree! But we already had the ancient temples looked at and the Aztec places seen already.
In National Treasure 4 it’ll be cool to see Ben travel to Egypt and Russia and amybe Hawaii.
Whatta think?
February 25th, 2008 at 6:02 am
question that’s been in my mind since they started talkin bout a city of gold..and a sertain name mentioned to have found this city before….
isn’t that golden city, actually El Dorado??
and it didnt really seem like a city..way 2 small..looked more like a temple. I wonder how ritch they all got now, whahahaha.
anyways, loved seeing them hunt for clues again. The clues were as great as ever..but NT1 keeps being the number 1. And what Cage said about making the third movie a “International Treasure”seems even better.
Let’s just w8 and see, while other great adventures r coming to the cinema’s…Indy 4, Ironman…
February 26th, 2008 at 3:38 pm
I think that anything like Atlantis or Fountain of Youth would be a really _bad_ idea for the next movies. I mean, for most of the people, the excitement and the tension of the movies has been that these treasures and clues are almost something, that you could believe. But if they find Atlantis… Hey c’mon, that’s so a myth because the story of Atlantis is not even possible, or that’s what all the latest theories and proof say! A much more better idea would be some Chinese or African treasure or some sunken ship, but I really hope that these writers come up with something really interesting, exciting and suprising
- and hopefully something that could be more than just a stupid myth!
And I think that three movies would be just perfect, because how many great treasures there can be found? Fourth movie could become a ridicilous flop, and we don’t want that, do we?
February 26th, 2008 at 7:50 pm
Just thinking…
Wouldn’t be cool to see them find a treasure in Europe barried under Rome, Italy or Austria or search into old castles from the ancient times - the 1600’s!
National Treasure 3 sound cool!
February 28th, 2008 at 12:15 pm
I think Pg 47 is going to be about the fountain of youth
February 29th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
i think they should make a third and fourth moive and also i think nicholas cage is cute and the guy who plays riley poole
March 1st, 2008 at 1:00 am
since page 47 is close to the beginning of the Book of Secrets and the mention of Queen Victoria. I beleive it leads to the restoration of World Power to Britain. Besides the Queen’s Jewels or the Royal Family themselves the only other famous legacy would be Excaliber. Page 47 leads them to Rome where we actually find out that this was in fact Caeser’s sword (As in the movie The Last Legion). In Rome Ben and his crew will find the lost tomb of Caeser which will lead our adventurers to Palma Spain where one of the oldest Churches stand with a mosiac that will point us toward Barcelona then onto Britain itself. The story of the sword and the stone is a half truth in which this magical sword is also a key that open the entire Royal Families Treasure and lets us know that the present Jewels are just leftovers. In this adventure 2 villains will be after Ben and his crew. The US governement and another Treasure Hunter that helps Ben in Rome and follows him. Neither the US or the other Treasure Hunter wants Ben to find the Sword of Kings and Key to Europes greatest treasure. I could have a script ready in 72 hours. End of Line.
March 5th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
I think there should be five of these movies. Even more would be good. I think that because they deal with history, it it very plausable that they keep going. Great stuff.Much better than pirates.
March 8th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
i hope the next national treasure is so awesome it gives off even more ideas as to produce even more ideas for national treasure movies to keep going for yrs & yrs.
i would just die if they didnt keep going
March 11th, 2008 at 5:24 pm
if they ever change the cast, i will be devastated. so, they shouldn’t make so many movies that nicolas cage and diane kruger get old and gray, ’cause then the movies wouldn’t be as exciting, watching old people hunt for treasure.
anyway, disney registered the domains NATIONALTREASURE3DVD.COM and NATIONALTREASURE4DVD.COM, and the movies might be coming out in 2010/11 and 2013! i can’t wait!
i don’t think the next movie will be about the fountain of youth, because that is rumored to be the theme of the next pirates of the caribbean film, and i don’t think bruckheimer would do two movies that are practically the same. but any other theme would work!
March 12th, 2008 at 10:54 am
How about Captian Kidd’s lost treasure buried beneath New York City somewhere? We homeschool and just read about this in our history book. It would be international because of the piracy done in the Indian Ocean, yet it would still remain a National Treasure. It could bring into the picture Ben’s diving/military training, early history of the U.S., Great Britain’s monarchy, international ships being pirated by Captain Kidd, and the still exciting treasure hunt on our own soil. Pirates sell and so does hidden gold!! What do you think? Keep up the great work on these movies - they are fantastic!
March 13th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
i agree with scotty. Just pause it. I thoght i saw some writeing on it.
Great Movies keep’em comeing.
March 16th, 2008 at 2:38 am
not be be like against national treasure or anything (i loved the movies 1 and 2) but i think its time for a change. ben gates and abigail have been the main characters for the first two movies and i think it would be great if they had and kid and he/she became the main character because they ( ben and abigail) are really getiing on my nerves. there are so many opportunities to kill em off. please take the chance…
March 16th, 2008 at 6:43 pm
Ummm. Why would they kill off Ben & Abigal in NT 3?
That is a dumb and complete ridicolus idea. Ben is the main character and if he dies they just killed the movie.
Leave and Abigal in the story/ riley in it.
They should make 5 more movies.
National Treasure 3 - 6
My idea!
March 16th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
I cannot waaaaaait for the 3rd movie. The first movie is my favorite movie of all time, and I really liked the second as well, so I’m very excited for a third. I hope they can keep the same feeling as the first one though, and not go in a completely different direction.
I DEMAND MORE RILEY!
March 17th, 2008 at 4:27 am
There are some really great ideas on this page for the content that should be on page 47. I thought both movies were very intertaining and would love to watch more. I think about the scene when Ben is looking through the book. What I noticed is that the book was not necessarily in chronicalogical order by date of entry, but by date of first entry of a topic. In the second movie, entrys from a very long time ago where placed in the same place as those left later on….when the wood was found in the desk. Keeping this in mind, we could go pretty much anywhere with the movie. Since the president has an effinity for architechture, and we need to have something interesting for Ben to tell the history of, I think it would be really cool to incorperate the architecture and intillect of Frank Loyd Wright. He was no doubt a brilliant intillect that could have easily hidden a clue or two under the waterfall of his famous house. It may also be interesting if the movie maybe shifted its idea of treasure from value of only having knowlege of the past and gold to a vast library of scientific knowlege…that perhaps gave Frank some of his Ideas? At anyrate this is surely where they hold the knowledge for nuclear fusion , the propentual engine, among other things. Just some ideas I guess. yeah, good movies lol
March 17th, 2008 at 4:36 am
Oh and for the writers…yeah, what would huck fin be without mark twain…..nothing thats what. Art comes in many forms but it all comes from a mind with an imagination. To create something truly inthralling is definately outside the realm of most peoples abilities. You deserve to be paid as much as I deserve to see the next season of Hereos! I also have to beleive that there are many people in the entertainment industry that makes way more than what they should….especially in exec positions and what not….that is pretty much industry universal….imagine how much money there would be to spread about the lower to middle class if there were not people living on six figures a year….rediculous….maybe even if they just took the six figure bonuses out…..Some people work hard and deserve to be rich….but come on…Bill Gates, Donald Trump…..hmph……seriously, how can you sleep at night knowing there are familys struggling to keep the power on…..oh wait, you donated to some charitys…..yeah….anyway….Go Writers!
March 20th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
some great ideas
but have any of you guys read matthew reilley’s novels 7 ancient wonders etc just one of the ancient wonders would be in keeping with the franchise. all seeing eye see dollar bill in nt2
ie architecture etc.
international…
what about all 7
what about the riddle of the sphinx?
what about atlantis
what about Troy or any of the mirriad of lostcities although too close to nt2….
my bets are on secret of perpetual motion / cold fusion as these seem to be favourites with writers at the moment
just some thought
March 20th, 2008 at 5:52 pm
National Treasure 3: The Lost World
I would like to see more underground / ancient city trwasure or midievil castles and etc. It would be cool to see the castle of Vlad The Impaler!
Or the lost cities of Ancient Europe or even Russia!
Cool ideas are being put onto the table!
March 24th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
Area 51 was discovered in Independence Day.
Anyway, this movie rocks! I loved the first one so much my family and I did the NT tour of DC. Check it out on the DC tourism website. It was pretty cool but get to the Capitol early for tour tickets and allow about 3-4 days to really see everything.
The second movie was fantastic. If there was a third one released tomorrow, I would take the day off to see it.
March 24th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
YesArea 51 was discovered in independance day. However , just because it’s in one movie doesn’t mean it cannot be used in another movie. That would be like saying aliens came to earth in “The day the earth Stood Still” after seeing “E.T” for the first time and being annoyed about it. For the record the movie “Roswell” was all about Area 51 and came before Independance day. You might say thats the pot calling the kettle black. Especially if Indpendance day is implied by you to be the end all be all of movies about area 51.
That is beside the point. I agree both movies are exceptionally well written, somewhat plausable even in some respects but of course not true I would certainly take the day off school to see the third!
March 24th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
I loved the end of 2 and the set up for 3 Great Job!!!
I also found this poster on the net a while back, saved it to my hard drive, and then uploaded it to image shack, good thing I did as the origanal page is now gone.
http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8292/page47ia7bb7.jpg
Lets see if url will work to post it here [image]http://img212.imageshack.us/img212/8292/page47ia7bb7.jpg[/image]
March 25th, 2008 at 2:16 am
Let Ben get married at the next Treasure site. This would be life-altering!! I will like it…. and I love history!
March 25th, 2008 at 8:13 pm
Jenny nice though but life altering for only Ben not the President and the rest of the world, I have heard rumors:
1.Fountin of youth, which would make good sence, as it would be lif altering for the whole world.
2. Finding Atlantis with a usable clean power source.
3. A working space Craft (just need to figute out how to turn it on, and work it, must deciper the ailien symbols, and find out that aliens have been very active in human history guiding events)and then using it to travel to the planet of the builders of it, to meet them.
Going to try to paste the image again……….
March 25th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
Not sure what the movie writers have planned but I wrote a National Treasure 3 story based on page 47 which I turned into a Treasure Hunt for my husband’s 50th Birthday celebration. They had to use the Playfair cipher to work out where to meet to being the hunt. I couldn’t believe everyone stayed so glued to the clues for hours even though we had a heatwave and the hunt started in a large open park. Anyone interested?
March 26th, 2008 at 2:39 pm
That sounds like a really fun idea to do a Treasure hunt. I just might suggest to my mom to do that for my Dad’s birthday. In the mean time though I have no idea what the third movie will be pertaining to. I however positive it will be an exceptional story, most sequals have difficulty living up to their predecessors (I think that means before oh well you get the idea) The point is its hard to make a second movie as good as the first. As far as the Book of secrets that was not the case I enjoyed it as much as the first. So I have no doubt the third will be equally good if not better!
March 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm
In a movie about clues, the producers left the audience with a clue that apparantly is being out-thought. Page 47 was revealed by the Pres. while discussing with Ben, among other things Lincoln. The very end of the movie/beg. of the credits has a line from The Gettysburg Address in the background……”our forefathers set forth upon this continent….” or something to that effect. So what you have here, is a tribute to Lincoln’s address; four score and seven years ago……page 47.
Thank you.
March 31st, 2008 at 8:52 pm
I loved both the movies they kept me on the edge of my seat the whole time!! Although they leave us woundering whats on page 47 did any of here it when rily said whats in the book and the president looks back and says what book..mabey ben is going to go behind the everyones back and do the hunting on his on because no one is supposed to know about the book of secrets..just a thought. anyway can’t wait for the 3rd i love u.s History
April 3rd, 2008 at 3:53 pm
I would have to say that The Steven (post 79) has one of the better working theories. The war of 1812 would fit around the pages of the book. They could tie Napolean and the Louisiana Purchase into the movie because the Napolean sold the land to the US for money to help fight the british, who were ironically trading with the indians in America during that time. America fights with the British to get them out, and the Brits leave everything there.
April 5th, 2008 at 11:05 pm
A 3nd one on page 47 in 2008.
There’s even been some rumblings of Walt Disney Imagineering developing a “National Treasure” -themed attraction. But — to be honest — I think that’s being done mostly to placate Nicholas Cage. Who — when he was doing publicity for “Book of Secrets” back in December — was actually quoted as saying that:
I do not see it going to be in 2008 , but in late 2009.
April 6th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
And now Jim Hill has learned of a brief plot description has been making the rounds “which would supposedly send the Gates family off to Easter Island and beyond in search of Atlantis. More importantly, the pure, clean power source that was supposedly lost forever when this ancient civilization sank beneath the sea. Which — were it to be harnessed today — would immediately put an end to global warming. Not to mention making gas & oil obsolete.” Could this be the information hidden on Page 47 of the President’s book?
But I would like to see it on the war of 1812.
April 6th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
I think that anything like Atlantis or Fountain of Youth would be a really _bad_ idea for the next movies.
April 7th, 2008 at 9:11 am
number 18 was completely wrong because of one small mistake in the movie
April 19th, 2008 at 12:44 am
I think for National Treasure 3 they should go to Egypt and Ben finds a treasure hidden by his older grandfather before Thomas Gates back in 1600’s. Ben, Abigal, and Riley and the others find a treasure hidden beneath a pyramid that leads to Page 47 and later leads them to Nevada towards Area 51.
My fourth idea…I’m still going with the idea for Atlantis for National Treasure 3!
May 4th, 2008 at 8:11 am
hmmm, i replayed the ending where ben were ask about the request president asked, it sounds like life vondering or something like that not sure. but really want to know more
May 4th, 2008 at 8:28 am
my bad life-altering
May 11th, 2008 at 1:33 pm
I would really like to see nick and abigal get back to gether. And get married or have a baby or some thing i just think more has to happen between them because they are such a cute couple so something more has to happen in NT3. I am so EXCITED!!!!!!!
May 11th, 2008 at 7:57 pm
I relley like nation treasure 1 and 2 so u should make a thrid one. As soon as i walk out of the movie theater i was saying what on page 47. SO U SHOULD MAKE THE THRID ONE PLEASE
May 12th, 2008 at 5:22 pm
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